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One thing that jumped out at me from one of the sources I looked at (https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-rates-of-deaths-from-dementia.html) is that deaths from dementia are being compared. The differences may be due to what is recorded on the death certificate.
Anyway, in respect of heading the ball, I think that if there is a proven increase in risk, it makes sense to pull back from kids heading the ball.
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16-01-2020 03:00 PM #31
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Where will the David Grays of tomorrow learn the beautiful art of bulleting home cup winning, Hun deflating injury time goals?
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The games gone down hill since they outlawed proper tackling and this VAR nonsense. Take away heading or kids being taught how to head the ball and the game will just continue to decline even further.
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I think it seems to be a good move. There's a link that shows footballers are X times more likely to suffer from the disease than not and I would assume the damage is more likely to be done at younger ages (guesswork) while brains and bones develop and strengthen so may as well protect them when young.
If it all fails, what's the worst that's happened? We've spent too much time focusing on passing the ball on the ground.
I find the English FA response quite strange. They're saying there isn't enough evidence to ban it yet. That sounds to me like there isn't enough evidence to not ban it either. Surely the sensible solution at that point is to ban it until there's evidence to show it isn't an issue and then reintroduce it.Mon the Hibs.
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16-01-2020 09:04 PM #36
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If they arent going to ban it its pretty silly to say no heading before 13..... 7/8 years of time where they could be coached in how to head the ball properly lost and probably end up with worse injuries due to that.
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Heading is a HUGE part of the game, especially defending and being able to attack the ball. I remember as a kid not being taught and how brutal it was heading the ball with the top of your head and not the forehead. Some proper coaching goes a long way.
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17-01-2020 04:59 AM #40
It was bound to happen, we stopped kicking the ball years ago and moved onto kicking the man.
Seriously though, I think its a good move anything to properly protect kids is good.
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I assume tackling in rugby is also banned for under 12s? I have no idea tbh but it must be as even more chance of brain jolts via that.
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I don't see any issue whatsoever with mitigating against risk to the long-term health of children, most of whom will never become professional footballers. The evidence linking headers to brain injury is pretty conclusive.
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There have been peer reviewed studies that show that heading a modern football causes short term mental impairment, including inhibiting memory performance immediately after a heading drill. The long term effects of this are pretty widely considered to be damaging by neurologists/concussion experts. There's not much debate to be had on this front.
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I recently saw an article that said aluminium was definitely a cause of dementia. When I looked into it more, another says there is no proof of that, at all
However, where a reasonable doubt exists (most of the people with dementia were not professional footballers) then a bit of care with young brains can't go amiss.Last edited by Cataplana; 17-01-2020 at 09:24 AM.
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Science!
I don’t have time for those who point blank refuse to accept evidence being presented by experts in this field.
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There's no alternative, when it comes to child health you have to follow the science.
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17-01-2020 10:27 AM #50
Kids at that age never head the ball anyway, corners are almost always taken short. People saying the art of heading the ball will be lost obviously don’t watch much kids football. It’s not until under 13s that it even becomes competitive. Below that age it’s all about developing skills and keeping the ball on the deck.
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However, with kids the problems won't come from corners or free kicks anyway - it's being under/on the receiving end of a keeper's clearance from hand where an old, wet leather ball will be far worse, given that it'll drop at the same speed as a lighter ball.
There's no alternative, when it comes to child health you have to follow the science.
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Likewise, the science surrounding footballers is slightly flawed in that, it would require a control, such as how many times people have headed the ball, which is pretty much impossible to measure .
For example, you would expect a higher incidence in centre halfs, compared to wingers. As far as I am aware the science does not examine that.
However, while there is a slight doubt, it makes sense for official coaches to discourage headering. What the kids do in their own time is another matter.
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Much ado about nothing. Lots of the best teams play free kicks and corners on the ground already (as much as short corners drive me mad!)Last edited by lyonhibs; 18-01-2020 at 06:55 AM.
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and it might be "non-competitive", but it's usually anything but.
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However, I am not a scientist, and it's not really relevant to this discussion .
Given the number of variables that come to play on brain function, it's not possible to say with any certainty what causes dementia. So, the science is far from exact, and brain function is much more complex than simple physics.
I don't want to go further off track, but the science is little more than a stab in the dark, when it comes to working out how to prevent these terrible conditions. The majority of dementia sufferers are women, and it's a fair bet the never headed a ball in their life.
However with young bodies, you can never be too safe. So, I'm cool with the ban.Last edited by Cataplana; 17-01-2020 at 03:48 PM.
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