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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    The service and support from midfield was diabolical at Livi. Whilst itís never really right to judge a player on one game, that game was a particularly harsh one to criticise Doidge for.
    His failure to control a ball was nowt to do with the midfield at Livi. Although I agree they were terrible also. The issue I was talking about was when the keeper, Hanlon, Daz or Stevenson played it long. Nothing stuck and most of the time it went back towards our defence putting us straight under pressure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyS View Post
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    His failure to control a ball was nowt to do with the midfield at Livi. Although I agree they were terrible also. The issue I was talking about was when the keeper, Hanlon, Daz or Stevenson played it long. Nothing stuck and most of the time it went back towards our defence putting us straight under pressure.
    I would agree with that, it wasnít his finest game.

    Thatís not really been the case throughout his time with us imo. Horrible pitch, windy, balls being hoofed up to him with no support - thatís a tough shift for any striker.

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    Big doidge will hit a treble against them next week!!
    Mark my words
    He is due a goal again thatís for sure Might just stick some money on Hibs win Doidge to score But not a Hat-rick Shankkand also to score


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    If Doidge maintains his current strike rate then heís on course for c20 goals in League and Cup competitions this season. Decent return if he manages it. Not many Hibs strikers have done this over the past 40 years, I would guess?

    Has Shankland even scored in the SPL yet?

    Prolific at a lower level, probably a standard not dissimilar to Doidge at Forest Green or whatever? Remains to be seen whether he can step up a level.

    Whilst the 5k a week rumour is probably as speculative as the Doidge 350k transfer fee ( which I find highly unlikely, maybe with all manner of conceivable add ons etc). A wage like that would put him beyond Hibsí reach anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab apple View Post
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    Doidge is growing on me. I doubt PH was ever interested in Shankland.
    PH wouldnt know a good player if one punched him on the nose, until shankland starts knocking them in for fun in the Premier league, then none of us know how good he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyrougier123 View Post
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    Big doidge will hit a treble against them next week!!
    Mark my words 💚💚💚
    No chance.

    Iím not confident at all and think Declan Glass and Shankland will put us out the cup.

    Iíd be delighted at a draw and take them back to Easter Road and beat them under the lights with a decent crowd giving us the edge.

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    No chance.

    Iím not confident at all and think Declan Glass and Shankland will put us out the cup.

    Iíd be delighted at a draw and take them back to Easter Road and beat them under the lights with a decent crowd giving us the edge.
    You would be delighted with a draw against a championship team, what a load of nonsense

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    You would be delighted with a draw against a championship team, what a load of nonsense
    An inform Championship team full of confidence 17 points clear in their division playing against an out of form SPL team. Neilson will have them right up for it, out to prove a point.

    Be a tough game for our lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allant1981 View Post
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    You would be delighted with a draw against a championship team, what a load of nonsense
    Aye, cause Championship teams never put SPL teams out the cup right enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfurryhibby View Post
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    Aye, cause Championship teams never put SPL teams out the cup right enough
    In fairness, I doubt there was much delight amongst any of those SPL teams that got a draw or put out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Shady View Post
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    An inform Championship team full of confidence 17 points clear in their division playing against an out of form SPL team. Neilson will have them right up for it, out to prove a point.

    Be a tough game for our lads.
    Aye, Neilsons record when ''he will have his team right up for it'' is excellent in the past

    Will be a tough game but we are the better side.

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    Aye, cause Championship teams never put SPL teams out the cup right enough
    Where did I say they didnt? If we got a draw against a championship team I wouldnt be delighted that's for sure, if that makes you happy then fire in, I obviously have higher standards set

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    An inform Championship team full of confidence 17 points clear in their division playing against an out of form SPL team. Neilson will have them right up for it, out to prove a point.

    Be a tough game for our lads.
    Of course they will be up for it and so they should be, but we should never be happy drawing with a team from a lower league and I'm sure that the management team wouldnt be either

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    Quote Originally Posted by allant1981 View Post
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    Of course they will be up for it and so they should be, but we should never be happy drawing with a team from a lower league and I'm sure that the management team wouldnt be either
    I'll be happy as long as we get through any tie, however we do it (with the possible exception of times when our fixtures our piling up and replays lead to us playing games we could really do without having).

    I don't think we're so "big" that we can say that we wouldn't be remotely content with a draw. I'd strongly fancy us against United at Easter Road, a tie for us away to flying leaders of the Championship will always have something of the banana skin about it, whoever that team happens to be.

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    I'll be happy as long as we get through any tie, however we do it (with the possible exception of times when our fixtures our piling up and replays lead to us playing games we could really do without having).

    I don't think we're so "big" that we can say that we wouldn't be remotely content with a draw. I'd strongly fancy us against United at Easter Road, a tie for us away to flying leaders of the Championship will always have something of the banana skin about it, whoever that team happens to be.
    Yip of course it has potential to be a banana skin game but before the game has kicked off I wouldnt be saying I'd be happy with a draw, we are still the better team regardless of how well they are playing in the championship

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    Doidge isn't as bad as some make out, but is nowhere near as good as others want you to believe.

    Shankland has been a better signing for Dundee Utd than Doidge has been for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve20 View Post
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    Doidge isn't as bad as some make out, but is nowhere near as good as others want you to believe.

    Shankland has been a better signing for Dundee Utd than Doidge has been for us.
    Shankland has been one of the best signings of the season, so that isn't really much of a criticism of Doidge, who I would suggest has also been a good signing.

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    Doidge isn't as bad as some make out, but is nowhere near as good as others want you to believe.

    Shankland has been a better signing for Dundee Utd than Doidge has been for us.


    Fair comment although Doidgey will hopefully prove it to be wrong come Friday.

    A lot of tosh being written about an away draw being a poor result from some people with very poor memories. A certain team from the Championship knocked out all comers on the way to Cup victory only a few seasons back - and they were not on anything like the run of form the Arabs find themselves on at the moment IIRC. Any result that keeps us in the cup will be a good one.

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    Fair comment although Doidgey will hopefully prove it to be wrong come Friday.

    A lot of tosh being written about an away draw being a poor result from some people with very poor memories. A certain team from the Championship knocked out all comers on the way to Cup victory only a few seasons back - and they were not on anything like the run of form the Arabs find themselves on at the moment IIRC. Any result that keeps us in the cup will be a good one.
    Maybe you think its tosh but i hope the players dont have the same mindset, they should not even be thinking a draw would be a good result before a ball is even kicked. That mentality is what holds folk back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basehibby View Post
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    Fair comment although Doidgey will hopefully prove it to be wrong come Friday.

    A lot of tosh being written about an away draw being a poor result from some people with very poor memories. A certain team from the Championship knocked out all comers on the way to Cup victory only a few seasons back - and they were not on anything like the run of form the Arabs find themselves on at the moment IIRC. Any result that keeps us in the cup will be a good one.
    Whats happening on Friday?

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    Various rumours in the papers say both Celtc and QPR are scouting Shankland.

    I donít think they are scouting Doidge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    Various rumours in the papers say both Celtc and QPR are scouting Shankland.

    I don’t think they are scouting Doidge.
    What a bizzare comment....so if they arent scouting Morelos then Shankland is better than him too?

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    Maybe you think its tosh but i hope the players dont have the same mindset, they should not even be thinking a draw would be a good result before a ball is even kicked. That mentality is what holds folk back.

    Of course the players and the manager will go into the game with the certain belief that they have the ability to win - but they won't go into it disrespecting their opponents by thinking it'll be a walkover - an attitude which is often a recipe for disaster.

    I'm sure they will be realistic in their assessment - ie they are perfectly capable of winning the game at Tannadice but giving anything less than 100% will leave them wide open to being knocked out by very capable opponents who are in winning form. Hibs will be striving to win but will also know perfectly well that taking United back to Easter Road will be anything but a disaster - a better result for us than it would be for them certainly.

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    Whats happening on Friday?
    Glad you pulled me up on that - somehow had it in my head it was another Friday night match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basehibby View Post
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    Fair comment although Doidgey will hopefully prove it to be wrong come Friday.

    A lot of tosh being written about an away draw being a poor result from some people with very poor memories. A certain team from the Championship knocked out all comers on the way to Cup victory only a few seasons back - and they were not on anything like the run of form the Arabs find themselves on at the moment IIRC. Any result that keeps us in the cup will be a good one.
    Realistically whoíve Dundee Utd actually faced this season thatís been a big challenge? No-one really. Thereís not been any other strong challengers in the league for them this season either

    Iíll hold my hands up and say theyíre a decent side if they knock us out but from the times Iíve seen them this season, limited mind you, theyíve not looked anything special

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    It's good that Doidge found a bit of goal scoring form after a fairly quiet start, and hopefully he can do something similar in the second half of the season.

    However, even the most blinkered and ridiculous of hibs.net posters would do well to play down how good Shankland has been for Utd.

    In my opinion this isn't even close to debate-worthy (but that is only my opinion and it has reached a few pages already ).


    I would love to have Lawrence Shankland in the Hibs team. And I'd give (one of) most of our players to have him. Absolutely no question.

    Having said that - I hope he has an absolute shocker next weekend, and any Doidge voters are feeding me humble pie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxy View Post
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    Really thought Shankland was heading to a top SPFL club. Perhaps all our recruitment is not the best and a part of the reason weíre all a million miles behind the ugly sisters.
    Part of the reason maybe, but I think having 50k fans a week might have a lot to do with it.

    I find it strange that nobody took a punt on Shankland, but maybe it is one of those cases where fitba folk actually do know what's going on.

    Maybe the guy is too slow,or lacking the brains to play at the top level. Simon Murray has a successful spell at United, but went past his level when he went to Hibs.

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    Part of the reason maybe, but I think having 50k fans a week might have a lot to do with it.

    I find it strange that nobody took a punt on Shankland, but maybe it is one of those cases where fitba folk actually do know what's going on.

    Maybe the guy is too slow,or lacking the brains to play at the top level. Simon Murray has a successful spell at United, but went past his level when he went to Hibs.
    He isn't blessed with a lot of pace. Definitely doesn't appear to lack a football brain though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordy M View Post
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    What a bizzare comment....so if they arent scouting Morelos then Shankland is better than him too?

    It wasnít that hard to see my point, was it?

    If so, I will try again: Scottish champions and an English championship club seem to have Shankland on their watch list. I am not aware that clubs of a similar calibre are scouting our number 9.

    Given that attracting transfer fees for our talent is a key factor for success, at the moment it would suggest that Shankland is a hotter property than Doidge and therefore a better signing.

    If this still isnít pedantic enough for you, I am sure you will let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    It wasnít that hard to see my point, was it?

    If so, I will try again: Scottish champions and an English championship club seem to have Shankland on their watch list. I am not aware that clubs of a similar calibre are scouting our number 9.

    Given that attracting transfer fees for our talent is a key factor for success, at the moment it would suggest that Shankland is a hotter property than Doidge and therefore a better signing.

    If this still isnít pedantic enough for you, I am sure you will let me know.
    If Celtic are trying to sign Shankland, it's so he doesn't play against them next year, and will probably be backed up with a joke fee being offered.

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