I think that loss that ultimately contributed to us breaking the hoo doo probably did hurt them for a while however our 7 - 0 is larglely irrelevant due to the time passed as is their 5-1 due to our cup win.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Both sets of fans would like to think they hurt but I don't think they do.
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Thread: The Legacy of 7-0
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13-01-2020 02:49 PM #31
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13-01-2020 03:14 PM #32
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13-01-2020 03:16 PM #33
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The 5-1 game hurt until they financially crashed. There were mitigating circumstances around their cup win that put it in perspective. Their administration karma then us winning it, especially they way we did, wiped out any iota of pain I had about it. For me 0-7 is pretty much insegnificant to my generation. It's not something that ever comes up in conversation with my mates. A cherished memory for my old man though who still talks about it.
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13-01-2020 03:19 PM #34
I don't care one bit about 7-0 as it was well before my time. My lifetime has (aside from a brief period post-promotion in the 90s and now) been full of abject defeats to Hearts teams of varying quality.
All that matters to me is beating them consistently now and making up for the last few decades. One pumping almost half a century ago doesn't justify the performances against them since.
Sorry.
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13-01-2020 03:29 PM #35
Hibs were the first Edinburgh club to win the Scottish cup in 1887.
We beat hearts 5-1 on the way.
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13-01-2020 06:48 PM #36This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-01-2020 05:13 AM #37
You can do the whole hurt comparison thing
2016 pretty much washed away the hurt. And I guess for the jambos there will be moments similar - albeit likely doped-up
The thing that stands out for me is - out Scottish Cup victory was something almost all of them had never contemplated the annual joke in perpetuation.
So when it finally happened it was “on their watch” and very much so. It’s hard to imagine a more complete cup fairy tale but maybe that’s just bias. But what a story - it’s our story. And we were there. And in an unfortunate sense so were the Jambos - they’d be smugly anticipating the Rangers to dispatch us."We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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15-01-2020 05:45 AM #38
I was in Glasgow recently and seen a Hearts book about their greatest results so I had a look at it to see how much Hibs featured.
Near the end of the book is the 5-1 final and I found myself reading that chapter.
That's how much the 5-1 game bothers me.
Had to give my hands a good scrub afterwards mind you lol.
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Back on topic, 5-1 hurt like a bitch at the time, how could it not, but honestly the League Cup final defeats to Livingston and Ross County left me feeling worse.
With the passage of time, the number of people on both sides who were actually there for 0-7 inevitably decreases. It's a fantastic memory and part of the club's history, but neither it nor 5-1 can be used as a serious point in a discussion about Edinburgh football in 2020 IMO.
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15-01-2020 06:29 AM #40
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Football is often described as a game of 2 halves
half time hearts lead 5-1
full time Hibs win 6-5
scottish cup win and finishing above them 3 seasons in a row gives Hibs a narrow victory
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15-01-2020 07:21 AM #41
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By the way I was at the 7-0. On the car radio on the way to the game it was announced the old firm game was off because of the weather. I said if we win 5 nil we go top on goal difference. Everybody turned round and looked at me as if I was crazy. I was 16 at the time.
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We destroyed them in one game in 1973 and have subsequently won 20% of Edinburgh derbies in the last four decades. I don't see that as a fair trade.
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15-01-2020 01:39 PM #44
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Jealous of the guys that were there for 7-0 like in 50 years time there will be folk jealous I was there for 21/5/16. Both are the stuff of legend and part of the history of our club but if I was to bring 7-0 up to a Jambo of my age or younger I'd rightly be laughed down
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15-01-2020 01:45 PM #45
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This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteLast edited by ABZHFC; 15-01-2020 at 01:47 PM.
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I recall a thread about this some time back. The 7-0 game was definitely a landmark moment when it came to changing Hearts' mindset towards the derby. Gary Mackay and Dave Bowman (who were both young Hearts fans at the time) have both spoken about how they grew up in an era when Hibs seemed to beat Hearts pretty much every time they played them and that when Hearts finally came back up to the top flight in 1983 it definitely inspired them to change the yam mentality around the fixture.
In saying that, Hibs should have won the first game between the sides for four years. We were 1-0, then 2-1 up and in control at Tynecastle but let things slip and a young John Robertson scored at least one of the Hearts goals in a 3-2 win. In the next derby at ER we were also ahead (through Bobby Thomson IIRC) and looking comfortable before a speculative shot by Robbo took a massive deflection and got them a draw*. Those games set the tone for the fixture for a long time after that.
*Here's that deflection (which Archie McPherson somehow initially fails to spot):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHArA4C1PfMLast edited by G B Young; 15-01-2020 at 07:22 PM.
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15-01-2020 07:29 PM #51
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No question it's been muted by 5-1 but it shouldn't be dismissed as ancient history. Not only did we win 7-0 at the home of our city rivals, but we needed a six-goal win that day to go top of the league and duly went one better. It was a tremendous Hibee high point and should always be cherished and celebrated.
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15-01-2020 08:22 PM #53
I often wondered how many baby Hibees were a legacy of the 0-7 and 6-2 games . Must have been a fair bit of errrrr, celebrating on both nights.....
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Going back to 7-0, my father had a theory that the bitterness from the Hearts support towards us increased from that day onwards. Although Hibs had been dominant in derbies for years, they were generally close affairs; the Jambos struggled with the sheer humiliation of 1.1.73.
To think it could've been worse for them tae...
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Aren’t they due another absolute skelping? These big derby results are a bit strung out for my liking.
Especially if they do get relegated this season, it would be a shame not to give them a real hiding before they go.
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