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    Not all good players make good coaches and a big difference between running your soccer academy with kids to coaching hairy arsed professional footballers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Unless he was to suddenly attain for himself the image of a consummate professional, then no it wouldn't be beneficial.
    Debatable. Every single young player would look up to him for a start.

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    Debatable. Every single young player would look up to him for a start.
    They would at first...but once they got used to him being around, unless he was any good at coaching, he would soon lose his impact .

    Tbh. If he cared about doing it , he would have worked hard at his coaching qualifications ....without that, feel free to get him in for a chat, but other than a fun “lunch and learn” not sure he would have much impact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Debatable. Every single young player would look up to him for a start.
    Would they? He's not Lionel Messi. He was a hero of mine when I was younger but I'm 33. Not sure if he's that important to 16 or 17 year old Hibs fans today.

    I'm not anti Riordan BTW, I just don't see him as being an obvious fit as a coach. If Hibs look at him and think he's worth it then fair enough.

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    Deek had all the technical ability you could ask for, but I'm not sure he'd be suited to coaching at first team level. Certainly not yet.

    He was my favourite player whilst I was growing up - but the only break he takes from posting big greasy meals and consecutive nights out drinking on Instagram is to voice his very colourful opinions about current players/staff at Hibs, or to show his accumulator for the night.

    None of that is really conducive to being a first team coach at professional level.

    I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to do it, live and let live and all that, but I certainly think it impacts his chances of being employed by the club.

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    Have we ever had a strikers coach? It seems weird that every club has a goalkeeping coach, but rarely a strikers coach. Scoring goals is the most important part of football, it seems crazy there’s not a specialist coach for that. I’d love to see Deek brought in to do that in fact I’m struggling to think of anyone better. Diehard hibby and a phenomenal finisher.

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    Would they? He's not Lionel Messi. He was a hero of mine when I was younger but I'm 33. Not sure if he's that important to 16 or 17 year old Hibs fans today.

    I'm not anti Riordan BTW, I just don't see him as being an obvious fit as a coach. If Hibs look at him and think he's worth it then fair enough.
    Fair enough, I still disagree. Riordan advising young strikers how to hit a football may actually see us being through a young forward since Steven Fletcher.

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    Debatable. Every single young player would look up to him for a start.
    They should be looking up to guys who actually got the most from their careers and won trophies, like Whittaker, Lewis, Hanlon, McGregor, Gray. Real professionals.

    Riordan was very talented but the furthest thing from a footballing role model as I can imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    They should be looking up to guys who actually got the most from their careers and won trophies, like Whittaker, Lewis, Hanlon, McGregor, Gray. Real professionals.

    Riordan was very talented but the furthest thing from a footballing role model as I can imagine.
    I'm certain he wouldn't be out there telling them to have the career he did, he'd be teaching them how to hit a ball, and possibly warning them not to make the mistakes he did. Young players can learn as much from people telling them what not to do as they can from those who things worked out OK for.

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    Would obviously depend on his attitude and enthusiasm to the role.

    You look at Alan Russel who is a striker coach for England and was nowhere near Riotdans ability. But his training sessions are brilliant with a real intensity and players rave about him.

    I definetely think there is a bonus to having position specific coaches though, it gets players into good habits and used to actually scoring goals and working all types of different attacking scenarios and chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    They should be looking up to guys who actually got the most from their careers and won trophies, like Whittaker, Lewis, Hanlon, McGregor, Gray. Real professionals.

    Riordan was very talented but the furthest thing from a footballing role model as I can imagine.
    Why? What did he ever do wrong on a football pitch? Listen to his Si Ferry interview and I’m sure you’ll change your mind. All he wanted to do as a kid was play for hibs and he scored over 100 goals for us. Sure he’s more than happy with the career he has had. Ask anyone who goes to games if they’d take his career and they’ll snap your hand off

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    Donald Park thought Riordan would be a good coach. I am sure he said it in an interview with one of the papers.

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    Many ex gamblers or addicts go into education and use their life experiences to their benefit in informing those in that situation. As long as Deeks is a consummate professional now and has the appropriate badges then his mistakes could be an advantage

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    Some saying being a great player doesn’t mean you can coach.
    Likewise some of the best coaches ever were decidedly average players
    Strange old world

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    Many ex gamblers or addicts go into education and use their life experiences to their benefit in informing those in that situation. As long as Deeks is a consummate professional now and has the appropriate badges then his mistakes could be an advantage
    He still appears in court most years and according to a post on here his instagram account is not that of a responsible professional.

    Good players bad behaviour is tolerated by football clubs and they will defend and make excuses for the player to keep hold of them.
    However, once that exceptional ability goes the player is no longer tolerated, wanted or needed by any big club.

    Could you honestly see Leanne Dempster, Graeme Mathie, Jack Ross or David Gray wanting Derek at the club in any capacity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    He still appears in court most years and according to a post on here his instagram account is not that of a responsible professional.

    Good players bad behaviour is tolerated by football clubs and they will defend and make excuses for the player to keep hold of them.
    However, once that exceptional ability goes the player is no longer tolerated, wanted or needed by any big club.

    Could you honestly see Leanne Dempster, Graeme Mathie, Jack Ross or David Gray wanting Derek at the club in any capacity?


    I'd just thank him for plenty of excellent moments as a player and move on. He's not the kind of character we need at the club on a coaching level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    He still appears in court most years and according to a post on here his instagram account is not that of a responsible professional.

    Good players bad behaviour is tolerated by football clubs and they will defend and make excuses for the player to keep hold of them.
    However, once that exceptional ability goes the player is no longer tolerated, wanted or needed by any big club.

    Could you honestly see Leanne Dempster, Graeme Mathie, Jack Ross or David Gray wanting Derek at the club in any capacity?
    No, it’s best we continue coaching the way we are. It’s been so successful at bringing players from the youth academy to the first team the past 15 years right enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    No, it’s best we continue coaching the way we are. It’s been so successful at bringing players from the youth academy to the first team the past 15 years right enough.
    Could we not just get Mallan on the same kind of contract as McGregor and Gray to coach on how to strike a ball?

    It’s should be simple, if he’s qualified and the best coach out there we can afford, hire him. If not don’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    Could we not just get Mallan on the same kind of contract as McGregor and Gray to coach on how to strike a ball?

    It’s should be simple, if he’s qualified and the best coach out there we can afford, hire him. If not don’t.
    That strategy has hardly been really successful for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    I’m not so sure you could teach what Riordan had, one of the best natural finishers I have seen at Hibs. I doubt even he could explain how he did what he did.


    Fabulous finisher. As good as anyone i've seen in the flesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    That strategy has hardly been really successful for years.
    So what is it your proposing that is different? Hire Riordan to teach them how to strike a ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    So what is it your proposing that is different? Hire Riordan to teach them how to strike a ball?
    Hire Riordan to coach young strikers, we might bring one through for the first time since Steven Fletcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Hire Riordan to coach young strikers, we might bring one through for the first time since Steven Fletcher.
    Hiring specialists coaches seems a good way forward but still say hire the best candidate. If that’s Riordan, great. If it’s not, what he did as a player is irrelevant IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Hire Riordan to coach young strikers, we might bring one through for the first time since Steven Fletcher.
    You are Derek Riordan. Where's my prize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    Hiring specialists coaches seems a good way forward but still say hire the best candidate. If that’s Riordan, great. If it’s not, what he did as a player is irrelevant IMO.
    I would politely disagree. His experience would be a valuable asset. Never going to happen though for reasons outlined above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    You are Derek Riordan. Where's my prize?
    I would never consider playing for Celtic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    He still appears in court most years and according to a post on here his instagram account is not that of a responsible professional.

    Good players bad behaviour is tolerated by football clubs and they will defend and make excuses for the player to keep hold of them.
    However, once that exceptional ability goes the player is no longer tolerated, wanted or needed by any big club.

    Could you honestly see Leanne Dempster, Graeme Mathie, Jack Ross or David Gray wanting Derek at the club in any capacity?
    If he has continued with the same destructive behavior then I'd want him nowhere near the club barring in the stands as a supporter. My point was that life experience, even bad experiences, can be valuable when you are coaching others. You obviously need to have learnt the lessons yourself first.

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    Why? What did he ever do wrong on a football pitch? Listen to his Si Ferry interview and I’m sure you’ll change your mind. All he wanted to do as a kid was play for hibs and he scored over 100 goals for us. Sure he’s more than happy with the career he has had. Ask anyone who goes to games if they’d take his career and they’ll snap your hand off
    He done some daft things on the pitch and some very daft ones of it. Obviously I'd take his career (without the leaving Hibs twice for free of course) but I like to think if I had his talent I'd make better decisions and have a better career.

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    We had Benni McCarthy coaching the strikers for a wee while under Stubbs, didn't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    He still appears in court most years and according to a post on here his instagram account is not that of a responsible professional.

    Good players bad behaviour is tolerated by football clubs and they will defend and make excuses for the player to keep hold of them.
    However, once that exceptional ability goes the player is no longer tolerated, wanted or needed by any big club.

    Could you honestly see Leanne Dempster, Graeme Mathie, Jack Ross or David Gray wanting Derek at the club in any capacity?
    When was the last time he was convicted in a court, you say most years ! So he posts some meals on Instagram and and a few pics of him out with friends for a drink, it's hardly being unprofessional.

    Leeann "that's how you spell her name" has had Derek in the club to do some things with the club, GM and Derek get on well and him and SDG get on very well, Derek couldn't speak well enough of him when he was in training with the squad under Stubbs.

    What was it Cummings said about Deeks time at the club at that time.

    Rather than spewing your hate go and ask the 4 you name what they think rather than thinking you know the answer, you have been very disrespectful of him and family members in past posts so listening to you about Derek is a waste of time, you don't like him, along with Cummimgs Stokes & Griffiths who you have posted derogatory comments about them as well and get the impression you don't even know these people but just read pish about them in papers and think they are wasters.

    What stopped you from becoming a pro footballer if it's that easy to do.

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