I'm not saying we haven't earned the opportunity via the rules, but IMHO the new rules are daft and only serve to diminish the tournament. If they hadn't been brought in we'd be further away from qualifying than ever, so the timing is fortunate.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'd simply rather see Scotland good enough to reach a major finals as they once did by being among the better teams in qualifying. Instead we're somehow still in with a chance of qualifying despite a series of humpings by Belgium and Russia and reaching new heights of humiliation by losing to Kazakhstan and Israel.
A couple of dead rubber wins over Cyprus and San Marino and suddenly we're rolling out Craig Brown to proclaim us potential world beaters.
If it's simply about giving a new generation of the tartan army a chance to don their kilts at a major tournament then fine, but I'd prefer to see us go there on footballing merit.
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20-11-2019 07:47 PM #31
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Its almost like that you have mumped and moaned about how bad we are you dont want us to qualify as it would ruin your chances to critisizing the national team.
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I think we can win the semi however unless the final is at home we should just concede and save the fans and the SFA some money.
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Plus it’s not easy, because Norway and Serbia aren’t mugs. Serbia got to the last 16 of the WC! God knows how they were in pot 3.Last edited by CorrieHibs; 20-11-2019 at 09:49 PM.
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21-11-2019 07:18 AM #40
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Denmark qualified because they were runners up in Yugoslavia's qualifying group - only the group winners went through automatically in 1992. Yugolslavia was in the middle of a civil war and break up into constituent countries.You would imagine the same logic would apply to Russia and we would go.
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Who knows what they’ll dream up for next NL but we’ll be in the B division with much harder opposition than Albania & Israel, so it probably won’t matter for Scotland.
It might offer up a couple of play off spots for the World Cup but nothing like the 4 spots up for grabs at the Euros.
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21-11-2019 09:42 AM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteMon the Hibs.
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21-11-2019 11:01 AM #45
The NL provides some meaningful games, that would usually just be pointless friendlies. It gives access to playoffs which I think is totally fair, and if it lets a lesser nation into the Euros once every 4 years what's the big deal? Europe has a huge glut of top-ranked teams that it's a huge deal when someone else breaks through and qualifies, we need to just make the most of what's infront of us instead of spending years sulking and lamenting how good we used to be.
We were that GOOD, in fact, we never got out of the first round of any tournament, so it's not even like we were regularly winning anything, just getting knocked out a round later than currently.
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I also thought that in 2 years time there was going to be a similar variant for world cup qualification.
The 2 years in 4 without a tournament were just for fun - and therefore advantageous to get relegated and have easier qualification routes. Although that would have a negative impact on coefficient.Mon the Hibs.
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21-11-2019 11:28 AM #47
There’s definitely going to be a World Cup related NL but UEFA haven’t revealed the details yet.
We’ll be in path B this time, so it might make sense to get relegated to C again for next Euros...
Germany are being reinstated to A despite finishing bottom of their group, so they are clearly making stuff up as they go along.
I’d guess there will be some related play off but not a direct entry to the World Cup, where there are quite enough European teams already.
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21-11-2019 11:32 AM #48
Germany never got relegated cause more countries were invited to join,but your right ,big teams get away with things
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Should point out that in spite of this new format, all the big names have made it to the tournament this year. The highest ranked team that hasn't (yet) qualified is Iceland, and they probably will anyway.
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21-11-2019 12:26 PM #55
The nations league win has given us the advantage of a home semi final in the play off.
What of our possible semi final opponents?
Romania are highest ranked in the Fifa rankings at an impressive 29th which is above that of both our possible opponents in the final, so hope we avoid them
The rest are ranked as follows:
50th Hungary
53rd Scotland
61st Bulgaria
89th Israel
Hopefully home advantage will be enough to see us through to the final.
Best hope of progression after that is a home draw against Serbia or Norway.
Both good and improving teams unfortunately.
Their current Fifa rankings are as follows:
33rd Serbia
45th Norway
IMO Serbia are the better team of the 2 and we would stand a better chance against Norway in a British football type game. Norway have home advantage in their semi final so that may tip the tie in their favour which i think would benefit Scotland.
The draw is on Friday. Fingers firmly crossed for a home draw for the final.
Re the big picture Scotland need to get into pot 2 to have a realistic chance of qualifying automatically for tournaments.
Otherwise you are relying on getting drawn in a group with one of the weaker 2nd pot teams such as Denmark.
In the qualification just finished Scotland came out of pot 3 and comfortably finished 3rd with the loss in Kazakhstan rendered meaningless.
When they drew Belgium & Russia only a madman would have put money on them qualifying and the clever money would have been firmly on 3rd.
Pointless fact; Scotland finished with the 3rd top points total of teams that finished 3rd in their groups after Iceland and Norway.
P.S. the latest Fifa ranking come out before the end of the month and will hopefully see Scotland break into the Top 50.Last edited by CMurdoch; 21-11-2019 at 12:43 PM.
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No, Scotland were never world beaters, but we were hugely more competitive than we are now. Yes there were embarrassments along the way (Peru, Iran and Costa Rica spring to mind) but these took place at the tournaments proper and we were actually unfortunate not to make it past the group stages of the Euros and the World Cup on a couple of occasions.
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