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    Sunderland Til I Die.

    It’s going to be very interesting watching the new series of this when released (supposed to be jan). I have a feeling our new boss is going to come out of it quite well.

    When you see the list of Heid the Baws on the jumbos managerial shortlist, I think we have won a watch 👍


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    Despite doing a much worse job than Ross, I thought Coleman came out looking like a very decent guy.

    I hope you're right about Ross, I've a feeling you will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vault Boy View Post
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    Despite doing a much worse job than Ross, I thought Coleman came out looking like a very decent guy.

    I hope you're right about Ross, I've a feeling you will be.
    Coleman really did come out of it well. He did everything he could do steady a sinking ship and everybody around the club seemed to like him but it was an impossible task. The middle aged 'fan' threatening him towards the end really stood out as an illustration of how some folk shouldn't be let out of the house.

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    Despite doing a much worse job than Ross, I thought Coleman came out looking like a very decent guy.

    I hope you're right about Ross, I've a feeling you will be.
    Agreed, although the bit where he tactically avoids entering the secret santa is hilarious.

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    I thought Coleman came out of it looking like a decent guy but a pretty hopeless manager. He certainly spoke passionately but there was little to suggest he was able to communicate his ideas to the players. Aiden McGeady as good as called him the worst manager he had ever worked under and savaged both his approach to games and his analysis afterwards. Was it an away game at Millwall that he said they reverted to a formation they had never once worked on or discussed in training?

    Although looking at the list of failures at Sunderland maybe it's a place that makes good managers look bad. Will certainly be interesting to see how Ross comes across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    I thought Coleman came out of it looking like a decent guy but a pretty hopeless manager. He certainly spoke passionately but there was little to suggest he was able to communicate his ideas to the players. Aiden McGeady as good as called him the worst manager he had ever worked under and savaged both his approach to games and his analysis afterwards. Was it an away game at Millwall that he said they reverted to a formation they had never once worked on or discussed in training?

    Although looking at the list of failures at Sunderland maybe it's a place that makes good managers look bad. Will certainly be interesting to see how Ross comes across.
    That's certainly one way of looking at it. I think the clearly broken culture that was there for all to see at Sunderland spoke volumes, and no manager could have gone in to work with a group of players so disinterested in playing for the club and been sure of success. I think he's a good manager.

    I'd say in terms of Ross, the Sunderland experience doesn't give us any clue about how he'll do at Hibs (although both clubs clearly need to do some work on that 'Culture' thing) ,there is at least that much in common.
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    I read somewhere that Ross was really well liked at Sunderland and took the canteen workers out for a meal after he was sacked. Think he also only lost 10 out of 80 games. Quite incredible they didn't get promoted with that record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    I read somewhere that Ross was really well liked at Sunderland and took the canteen workers out for a meal after he was sacked. Think he also only lost 10 out of 80 games. Quite incredible they didn't get promoted with that record.
    Much like our time in the championship, it was the draws that killed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    I thought Coleman came out of it looking like a decent guy but a pretty hopeless manager. He certainly spoke passionately but there was little to suggest he was able to communicate his ideas to the players. Aiden McGeady as good as called him the worst manager he had ever worked under and savaged both his approach to games and his analysis afterwards. Was it an away game at Millwall that he said they reverted to a formation they had never once worked on or discussed in training?

    Although looking at the list of failures at Sunderland maybe it's a place that makes good managers look bad. Will certainly be interesting to see how Ross comes across.
    McGeady had been signed by Grayson, who he followed from Preston. There was quite a strong bond between the 2 and I don’t think McGeady was all that impressed when Grayson got his jotters so quickly, and probably “had it in” for the next man.

    When Ross came in, McGeady really started to play and his outstanding form that season carried a few passengers along.

    My point? Ross made a few pretty poor transfer moves but managed to get a tune out of a talented but temperamental player. By all accounts McGeady’s been very poor this season and especially since Ross left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    McGeady had been signed by Grayson, who he followed from Preston. There was quite a strong bond between the 2 and I don’t think McGeady was all that impressed when Grayson got his jotters so quickly, and probably “had it in” for the next man.

    When Ross came in, McGeady really started to play and his outstanding form that season carried a few passengers along.

    My point? Ross made a few pretty poor transfer moves but managed to get a tune out of a talented but temperamental player. By all accounts McGeady’s been very poor this season and especially since Ross left.
    Would love to see him at Hibs

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    Would love to see him at Hibs
    Funnily enough, I mentioned on another thread that I knew John Potter a while back. Whilst he used to enthuse about Hibs at the time, he said his trickiest opponent was McGeady. If, as a CH, you were pulled out wide against him he would just tear you apart with pace and tricks as you didn’t know which way he was going to go.

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    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.s...-1276773%3famp

    Ross interview on the documentary here

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    I read that Jack wasn't too keen on the documentary taking place. Not like there is much pressure managing a football club already :-)

    Will be an interesting watch I'm sure, the last one certainly was.

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    Glad to hear he gave them the bare minimum access.

    Poor of the board to go against his wishes.

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    Intrigued to see this when it comes out. Really enjoyed the last one. From what I've heard about Jack Ross he'll come out of it well

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    I read that Jack wasn't too keen on the documentary taking place. Not like there is much pressure managing a football club already :-)

    Will be an interesting watch I'm sure, the last one certainly was.
    Dont blame him. Unnecessary distraction.

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    Are the doing one this season

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    I heard somewhere Hearts are doing something similar this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    I heard somewhere Hearts are doing something similar this season?
    I know Spurs have got one on the go with Amazon Prime which started from the Liverpool game at Anfield a few weeks ago. Should be a great viewing with current behind the scene issues at the club.

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    I heard somewhere Hearts are doing something similar this season?
    Yup. “Inside Tynecastle”

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    Looking forward to seeing this. Enjoyed the 1st season.

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    Tourist football at its finest imo. Would be so easy for players and probably coaches to take their eyes off the ball with cameras roundabout.

    Leave that pish to English football

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    Cannae wait for Series 2 coming out on Netflix
    Series 1 was recommended compulsive viewing for all football fans
    We had Martin Bain doing his David Brent impersonation ( I mean that in a nice way) Jack Rodwell refusing to budge from his £43000 per week contract and our own Robbie Stockdale having to look after the team no less than three times as various Managers left through the exit door to only himself be shown the exit door by none other than Jack Ross
    “It’s a funny old game Saint.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by HendoDelivered View Post
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    Yup. “Inside Tynecastle”
    Surely it just looks like any other building site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Cannae wait for Series 2 coming out on Netflix
    Series 1 was recommended compulsive viewing for all football fans
    We had Martin Bain doing his David Brent impersonation ( I mean that in a nice way) Jack Rodwell refusing to budge from his £43000 per week contract and our own Robbie Stockdale having to look after the team no less than three times as various Managers left through the exit door to only himself be shown the exit door by none other than Jack Ross
    “It’s a funny old game Saint.”
    Was Rodwell not on something like £85,000?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    Was Rodwell not on something like £85,000?
    Yip

    That was what I thought £68000 but not according to this article Sunderland cancelled his £43000 a week contract on relegation

    https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...e-are-they-now

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    Sunderland pumped out the cup by Gillingham last night. They must be regretting sacking Ross

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Yip

    That was what I thought £68000 but not according to this article Sunderland cancelled his £43000 a week contract on relegation

    https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...e-are-they-now
    When he signed he was on about £70k per week. That may have increased year on year for the couple of years after, but when they were relegated to the third division his wage "plummeted" to £43k per week and he didn't want to hang around for that.

    The article says he was doing ok at CH for Blackburn but he struggled and was released. He made his name (and earned that big contract) playing midfield but now doesn't think he's got what it takes to play there and so refuses, thinking he's a centre half instead.

    The guy is poisonous. His agent has recently been linking him with moves to big Italian clubs but I'd be surprised if he gets another senior club, anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    When he signed he was on about £70k per week. That may have increased year on year for the couple of years after, but when they were relegated to the third division his wage "plummeted" to £43k per week and he didn't want to hang around for that.

    The article says he was doing ok at CH for Blackburn but he struggled and was released. He made his name (and earned that big contract) playing midfield but now doesn't think he's got what it takes to play there and so refuses, thinking he's a centre half instead.

    The guy is poisonous. His agent has recently been linking him with moves to big Italian clubs but I'd be surprised if he gets another senior club, anywhere.


    Sounds about right as the OP said I could swear that when I was watching the documentary they said his weekly wage was 68k

    As to the poisonous bit sounds a bit like our man Ojo

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