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15-11-2019 08:10 PM #61
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15-11-2019 08:13 PM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-11-2019 10:10 PM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yes
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This is how it feels
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16-11-2019 04:45 AM #65
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Lack of ambition with this appointment.
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16-11-2019 06:23 AM #67
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16-11-2019 06:29 AM #68This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-11-2019 07:34 AM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-11-2019 10:06 AM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Care to expand on why you think that?
Tip the answers not "cos he never went to hearts".
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16-11-2019 10:29 PM #71
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Welcome to the Hibees Jack Ross
Very best of footballing good fortune to you
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16-11-2019 11:02 PM #72
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Might have had a few drams but we've just appointed Jack Ross, Jack Ross! We'd have all been salivating over that this time last year. This could be a marriage made in heaven
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17-11-2019 02:17 PM #73
Has ross been unveiled yet as ive not seen anything on tv......maybe just missed it
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17-11-2019 02:18 PM #74
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17-11-2019 02:37 PM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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17-11-2019 02:58 PM #76
We've had four generic sentences from him, what more do you want it's the polar opposite of a sevco statement
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17-11-2019 06:27 PM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
This is fair comment.
Aside from the ‘big names’ dropping down the football pyramid he was the obvious and outstanding candidate.
No appointment is without risk but I think we should be positive here. He fits the profile of someone who should do well for us.
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18-11-2019 07:32 AM #78
A copy and paste of Jack Ross speaking with The Times -
“I didn’t fail at Sunderland, says new Hibernian manager Jack Ross’’
Jack Ross was out shopping late one night, buying some milk near his home in Northumberland. There was one other person in the shop who walked over to him. “I’m sorry you lost your job,” the man said to Ross. “It’s OK, I’m all right,” he replied.
Ross went down another aisle. “He walked past me again and gave me a tap on the shoulder,” Ross says. “You know the way people do when they’re offering you sympathy. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry!”
Ross, set to be unveiled as the new manager of Hibernian today, is laughing again.
That the 43-year-old was out of work for only 38 days after being dismissed by Sunderland, the Sky Bet League one club, says much. He is returning to Scotland with his reputation enhanced. Sunderland, a club that did not have enough players to make a full team when he arrived, did not win promotion but he stopped a rot, and in his words, turned ‘a huge club around and pointed it in the right direction’.
Last week Ross was back in Scotland to give a presentation to coaches, entitled: ‘Getting it right, getting it wrong and somewhere in between’.
“Where does Sunderland fit in?” he says. “The answer will always be in between. You can’t get it all right. That’s impossible, but I’d like to think I got more right than I got wrong. We lost ten out of 80 competitive games, we were at Wembley twice, we scored in 45 out of 46 league games and there was one defeat in 16 months at the Stadium of Light.
“We didn’t get promoted. I said that’s what I came to do. If you want to be as black and white as that, no I didn’t achieve what I went there to do, but given all the challenges, I can’t say I failed.”
Returning north from his family home in the north east of England to one of Scotland’s big four remains a long way from Ross’s first start coaching at Dumbarton eight years ago, on £100-a-week, where he would wait for the public pitches at Toryglen to clear so he could set up his cones and take his sessions at eight o’clock twice a week.
He rose quickly. Taking over and transforming Alloa Athletic, leaving the club second in Scottish League One and then moving to St Mirren, where the side won the Scottish Championship. He was PFA manager of the year in Scotland then and impressed Stewart Donald, the Sunderland owner, so much in interview that he drove personally to pick him up and persuade him not to join Ipswich Town, who were a league above at the time.
“No, I never regret taking the job,” Ross says. “It has made me a much better manager and a much better person. I’m proud of how I felt with things. It was tough, it has hurt me, but I have to deal with loads of things other managers will never have to deal with.”
Like watching only ten players walk out for his first day at training, some of them on more money than a League One club’s annual income. Like never having a budget. Like losing his top scorer Josh Maja to Bordeaux in January. Like being told to liaise with potential new owners this summer about who he wanted to sign, new owners who never even took over.
“I had a desire to put a more structured plan in place, more than just the budget,” he says. “The club has come out recently and said they will invest in recruitment, and I had all the conversations and we never managed to get there. For the club to move, it needs to do that.”
Sunderland were sixth, four points off second place in League One with a game in hand, when a planned meeting had its order of minutes changed dramatically on October 8. Instead of talking about the future, in his own office, with director Neil Fox, Ross was sacked.
“I didn’t see it coming,” he says. “It’s a brilliant football club to get the opportunity to manage, but it’s hard, a lot harder than what people know. Everyone says the same, not because they’re weak, it’s just really, really challenging. I think the resilience you build up in that period, and I did May to October, just being the manager, it encases you.
“I spoke to my wife Heather first. She’s very protective and her first reaction was one of anger and indignation. She thought it was unjust.”
Ross had to persuade his angry backroom staff to take the team’s EFL Trophy game with Grimsby Town. There were tears from his office staff, and he went, on invitation, for a meal with the club’s kitchen workers.
It was more pain to go with the 94th-minute play-off final defeat by Charlton Athletic back in May.
“I had to speak after that game and I had to do it in a relatively controlled manner, but if I were to have said what I felt inside, I would have cried,” Ross says. “This was the same. I was gutted at losing that job. I’d put so much work into the last 16-17 months. Under a lot of circumstances people didn’t see, I thought I did the job well.”
He rankles at the suggestion that his team would sit back and look for draws or a lack of a desire to kick on and win by greater margins.
“Nah, it’s complete fake news,” Ross says. “There was only one time I was happy with a point and that was Barnsley away. It was blowing a hurricane.
“We came back the most from losing positions. Half-time in the Checkatrade final [in March] I was talking about everything we did well, ‘keep doing it and we’ll score more goals’, so it is the complete polar opposite to what people have said. Portsmouth made a change and went direct and we couldn’t get out. It’s not a computer game. It’s played by human beings who get nervous and make mistakes.”
Now, it is a new challenge in Edinburgh, where both Hibs and Hearts wanted him. Hibs, who have given Ross a three-and-a-half year contract, have hired a relentless worker, there is no doubt of that.
“It’s not easy to win football matches and my record is about 50 per cent,” Ross says. “I’m a better manager now than when I joined Sunderland.”
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18-11-2019 07:51 AM #79
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Good read. Thanks for posting
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18-11-2019 08:08 AM #81This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Great share, thanks Carheenlea
Also worth noting that Sunderland sold their striker in the January window last season
Sunderland may have improved in recent years but they are far from recovered
Ross definitely helped stop the rot, 4 points off second with a game in hand is a crazy position to justify sacking a manager
Their loss is most certainly our gain
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18-11-2019 08:12 AM #82madhatterLeft by mutual consent!
Do we think it will be a lunchtime interview?
The wait between the announcement and the unveiling is a bit strange. I know contractually he wont have started until today but I dont understand why they didn't wait until today to announce him. There will be a reason, I'm sure.
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18-11-2019 08:21 AM #83This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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18-11-2019 08:39 AM #84This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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18-11-2019 09:01 AM #85
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18-11-2019 09:01 AM #86
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18-11-2019 09:26 AM #87This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
my thoughts exactly
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18-11-2019 09:27 AM #88This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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18-11-2019 09:28 AM #89This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It’s quite a common tactic for managers trying to see out games.
I think it was quite clear with Heckingbottoms sides we tried to see our games rather than get another goal.
Think the St Johnston game at home when we drew 2-2 was an example of that.
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18-11-2019 09:44 AM #90madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Have a delay, where JR is still in main shot but then have Efe and Bogdan walking into frame. Could have even had a "gaffer wait up" from out of shot to add intrigue.
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