Was he respected by the players? I'm sure he must have told them more than once not to drop back when they were in front, but they did that repeatedly .This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Likewise what respect did Stevie Mallan show anybody every time he pretended to tackle, or ran away.
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09-11-2019 09:55 AM #31
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It's easy to say he should have gone sooner with hindsight but to sack him after Ibrox would have been ridiculously harsh.
They gave him every chance to show he had what it took to turn it around, he didn't show enough and was dealt with at the most appropriate time.
I don't want Hibs to be a club who sack their manager at the first sign of trouble as that rarely ends well, but it is correct to be decisive when all the signs suggested he wasn't going to turn it around.
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09-11-2019 10:03 AM #33
Yes, but the mistake was in the timing of it rather than the sacking.
League Cup semi or not, he should have gone after the Aberdeen game. That was long enough to judge him fairly on performances and signings this season, but also early enough to get a new manager in during the previous international break and take advantage of the three league fixtures against Hamilton, Ross County and Livingston.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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(only a joke )
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09-11-2019 10:12 AM #35
No a Motherwell player had to stop himself from saying we are crap or words to that effect after a 0-3 loss
Lenny who does not have a plan B said the way he (PH) set us up made us easy to beat last Saturday in a national cup semifinal
He seriously underestimated our league the standard of player and the expectations of our fans and signed a load of dross that look as though they are on a jolly
Well rid!
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09-11-2019 10:14 AM #36
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I don't think it was a mistake, thankfully the board finally sacked him.
I'm sure the next manager will get more out of his summer signings.
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09-11-2019 10:19 AM #37
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No chance. We kept him in a job too long.
Should have went after Ibrox.
Then Motherwell.
Then the derby.
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09-11-2019 10:29 AM #38
Absolutely not. It was obvious he wasn't right a long way back and all that kept him there was the triumph of hope over reality for a lot longer than was sensible.
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09-11-2019 10:33 AM #39
I’m looking forward to the game today, first time I’ve been able to say that in a long time.
So glad the board finally acted and dealt with him.
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09-11-2019 10:36 AM #40
I think he will prove in time to be a good manager. Think he is already a good coach, too many people in the game hold him in high regard for that not to be the case.
You need more to be succesful, predominantly you need to be a good coach working with able good players.
He came in last year to good able players and got a tune out them. He was then tasked with changing the team and bringing in good players - this is where he failed. He then compounded things by not finding a shape or game plan to fit what he had - what he had given himself.
Nice guy, probably a good coach but he failed for a number of reasons. He had to go
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09-11-2019 10:37 AM #41
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09-11-2019 10:50 AM #42
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2 Of course we could.
3 NO, the board gave him as long as they could, but we still haven't won a league game since St Mirren, and going to Glasgow and losing 6 goals to one of the ugly sisters and 5 to the other doesn't sit well on anyone's list of achievements.
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Troll OP.
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09-11-2019 11:14 AM #47
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I would think the board would rightly take into account his overall record at the club more than an average fan might and they wouldn't be looking on getting past Morton and Killie in the cup as not counting as wins because they weren't in 90 minutes. Nor would they completely dismiss what he did when he came in as it "was Lennon's team not his".
I think the board were right to give him a good amount of time to turn it around. There is a risk of clubs becoming known as a basket case if they repeatedly sack managers at the first sign of adversity. This can become a vicious circle because once you've got that reputation then decent managers will steer clear. There is a balance to be struck and IMO they got it about right.
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Only mistake about Heckingbottom was giving him the job in the first place. Any guy who reckons the Scottish premiership is of the standard of the lower leagues in England should never have been near our club.
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09-11-2019 11:20 AM #50
No, I can't believe it was a mistake, unless we manage to appoint someone even worse! He had to go; if anything it should have been sooner.
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The only way it could have been a mistake is if you think Heckingbottom would have come good. It was clear with every passing week that wasn't likely to be the case.
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09-11-2019 11:32 AM #52
Just his dross signings to go. Said on this many a time he’ll be gone by November warning signs were there first live tv cup game in betfred this season. Should never have got the job to start with
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I think in years to come we will realise that Doidge up front on his own was revolutionary thinking that we and the rest of our League 1 standard league were just not ready for.
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09-11-2019 11:54 AM #59
No.
Everything Hibs did under him was at odds with his stated intentions for the team when he came in. From the word go he shat it against Celtic in the cup and there was never any sign of the high energy high pressing game he had promised. He compounded that with the signing of his own players none of whom seemed capable of playing the type of football he said he wanted to play.
He didnt fail because he couldnt deliver what we wanted, he failed because he couldnt deliver what he wantet and on top of that I think he seriously underestimated the job at hand and the league he was in ... both fatal errors. He can have no complaints.
Lets hope we get lucky with the next guy, because no matter how much due diligence the board apply there's always an element of luck in any managerial appointment.
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