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    Fraser Murray

    Don’t want to be too harsh on a youngster, but what on earth was that performance today?

    Failed to play a proper pass to Kamberi on the counter.
    Looked dreadfully unfit and ran like he was towing a car.
    Headed the ball to the County player for their equaliser.

    Hopefully it’s just a rare blip, but he cost us that game today with his shambolic performance.

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    He is nowhere near good enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    He is nowhere near good enough
    I agree. Won’t make it at Hibs.

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    Pulled out of the header I'm afraid.Second time that has cost us a goal.

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    Pulled out of the header I'm afraid.Second time that has cost us a goal.
    I thought he misjudged the bounce of the ball. Schoolboy error granted but there have been worse mistakes from senior pros this season

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    I thought he misjudged the bounce of the ball. Schoolboy error granted but there have been worse mistakes from senior pros this season
    Thought the same, there wasn’t another player even close to him. Just misjudged it.

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    Pulled out of the header I'm afraid.Second time that has cost us a goal.
    Now that I’ve seen it on Sportscene I realise that he didn’t pull out of the header like I thought at the game,he totally misjudged it.So apologies for that but I do think heading is a weakness in his game .

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    Now that I’ve seen it on Sportscene I realise that he didn’t pull out of the header like I thought at the game,he totally misjudged it.So apologies for that but I do think heading is a weakness in his game .
    That's nit picking in the extreme as every player has a weakness to some extent.

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    I didn’t see his performances today, but a struggling team with no confidence and vastly lacking quality isn’t really a great platform to bring a youngster in from the cold. That said, Murray has shown some potential, but the longer he is out the team the better he seems to get. At the moment he’s in the same bracket as Harris, Stanton & Handling. Shown some potential but yet to actually show he will make it at Hibs. Miles behind Porteous and Shaw despite being a similar age.

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    The youngsters are not being prepared for the first team, time for change in that department as well imo.

    As nice as all the coaches are its not good enough at hibs end of!!

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    The youngsters are not being prepared for the first team, time for change in that department as well imo.

    As nice as all the coaches are its not good enough at hibs end of!!
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    He was shocking. Yet folk are lambasting Newall and Vela on another thread. Our academy guys get too easy a ride from many on here and folk have been crying out for Murray to be given a chance. On today’s evidence I can see why he’s been nowhere near the team lately. Cost us two points ultimately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    He was shocking. Yet folk are lambasting Newall and Vela on another thread. Our academy guys get too easy a ride from many on here and folk have been crying out for Murray to be given a chance. On today’s evidence I can see why he’s been nowhere near the team lately. Cost us two points ultimately.

    Nonsense.

    If he was poor today then he’s fluffed a chance to impress but he looked promising when he first broke into the team.

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    To say Fraser Murray cost us 2 points is utterly ridiculous. His mistake resulted in a goal - the likes of Vela made mistakes galore but got away with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    To say Fraser Murray cost us 2 points is utterly ridiculous. His mistake resulted in a goal - the likes of Vela made mistakes galore but got away with them.
    So...Murray cost us 2 points then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    To say Fraser Murray cost us 2 points is utterly ridiculous. His mistake resulted in a goal - the likes of Vela made mistakes galore but got away with them.
    So ultimately he cost us two points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    So ultimately he cost us two points.
    Did you watch Newell today? Do you think that 2 good crosses and hiding the rest of the game makes it a good performance?

    I doubt whether Murray will ultimately be good enough but to defend the likes of Newell and Vela is astonishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Did you watch Newell today? Do you think that 2 good crosses and hiding the rest of the game makes it a good performance?

    I doubt whether Murray will ultimately be good enough but to defend the likes of Newell and Vela is astonishing.
    Who’s defending them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    Who’s defending them?
    Tamig on the other thread....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Did you watch Newell today? Do you think that 2 good crosses and hiding the rest of the game makes it a good performance?

    I doubt whether Murray will ultimately be good enough but to defend the likes of Newell and Vela is astonishing.
    Newell put in more than two crosses today - and most were quality crosses.
    I’ll have a go at players if I think it’s merited and I don’t think either Vela or Newell deserve the kicking they’re taking on here tonight. If we’d held on for the win today I can bet there would be no thread dedicated to them. They are easy targets on here. I like Fraser Murray but he’s now cost us twice this season by bottling out of aerial challenges.

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    Newell put in more than two crosses today - and most were quality crosses.
    I’ll have a go at players if I think it’s merited and I don’t think either Vela or Newell deserve the kicking they’re taking on here tonight. If we’d held on for the win today I can bet there would be no thread dedicated to them. They are easy targets on here. I like Fraser Murray but he’s now cost us twice this season by bottling out of aerial challenges.
    If we’d won 4 nil today Newell’s performance would still be pish. He hides, can’t tackle, plays the ball straight back from where it comes from and occasionally finds space to whip in a decent cross. Any player in any level of football could have seamlessly swapped with him and done better. He is not what I want to see at Easter Road, if you’re happy with that you should maybe join the board, no ambition no heart and no passion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    To say Fraser Murray cost us 2 points is utterly ridiculous. His mistake resulted in a goal - the likes of Vela made mistakes galore but got away with them.
    So he ****ed it Is what you’re saying. How many mistakes did Vela cost us?

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    So he ****ed it Is what you’re saying. How many mistakes did Vela cost us?

    Was it Vela that never closed down Graham for the first goal

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy veer View Post
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    Was it Vela that never closed down Graham for the first goal
    Dunno, wisney there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    So he ****ed it Is what you’re saying. How many mistakes did Vela cost us?
    No idea what the asterisks hide. But it's more than likely not what I said.

    No point in responding further as I see you said you weren't actually there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    No idea what the asterisks hide. But it's more than likely not what I said.

    No point in responding further as I see you said you weren't actually there.
    No, it doesn’t take a genius to figure it out. I was merely pointing out how daft your point was that Vela’s mistakes didn’t lead to goals but Murray’s did and has seen 3 points go to 1.

    Our young players are talented, but they aren’t Teflon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    No, it doesn’t take a genius to figure it out. I was merely pointing out how daft your point was that Vela’s mistakes didn’t lead to goals but Murray’s did and has seen 3 points go to 1.

    Our young players are talented, but they aren’t Teflon.
    Nah it wasn't daft at all. Hanlon was bullied out of his first challenge in the match by wee Billy McKay. Didn't cost us a goal luckily but it was awful. Vela misplaced several passes but luckily they didn't result in a goal. Mistakes worse than Murray's. I could go on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    To say Fraser Murray cost us 2 points is utterly ridiculous. His mistake resulted in a goal - the likes of Vela made mistakes galore but got away with them.
    Vela set up the second with a great tackle high up the pitch, something we’ve been crying out for all season

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    I am all for blooding youngsters but currently our senior players can't find the character and mindset to get themselves through the games never mind take the time to help the inexperienced ones through.

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    I am all for blooding youngsters but currently our senior players can't find the character and mindset to get themselves through the games never mind take the time to help the inexperienced ones through.
    Our most senior players, Hanlon and Stevenson, are an absolute disgrace at the moment.

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