The generic Hearts thread

[Bostonhibby]

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I wonder if gary cock has been in to see him yet?

I wonder if the poor sap knows doctor football is more than just the guy that tells the youth team how to win silverware.

Wait until he finds the post it notes stuck to his windscreen and gets instructions from an assistant footman named Daly who is also a double agent working tirelessly for the sacked manager who isn't really sacked and still hides in the shadows plotting his triumphant return.

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[G B Young]

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I have to be honest, I don't think Barnsley are looking too good in their side of this.

They quite clearly have sacked the guy, for whatever reason, and I don't understand why they don't just let him go and let somebody else pay his wages.

Not according to their statement.

Whose word are Hearts relying on to prove they don't owe Barnsley compensation? Stendel's? We can perhaps assume so because last week the Barnsley chairman was bemoaning the fact nobody at Hearts seemed to have heard of a phone and were insisting on communicating by letter. If Hearts are putting their faith in Stendel's words, then Barnsley's revelations about how he went behind their back to try to engineer a move to another Championship don't paint him in a good light when it comes to a straight answer.

This could run for a while - and will hopefully dominate tomorrow's press conference when they finally unveil him.

[Smartie]

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You don’t know who to believe and it’s hard to make sense of all the cross fire, but, and I promise I will wash out my mouth with carbolic soap, I think any legal outcome will favour the Jambos. Barnsley, in their statement, say they sacked him and the Jambos employed him on the basis he had been sacked. Barnsley’s complaints about Stendel talking to another club is irrelevant and it seems to me that this is a bit of a smokescreen to blacken his character. Hope I’m way off beam with this tho’.

As much as I would like to disagree with you, it looks very much to me like Barnsley are at it. Their sacked manager (who had lost 10 games in a row) has found a new club and they are trying to squeeze every last bit out of the situation.

I’d be amazed if there is any negative comeback for Hearts. For Stendrl himself maybe, but not Hearts.

The worst thing from a Hearts point of view is that his track record isn’t brilliant and he may be a chancer.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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They were calling him Mr Stendel on kickback earlier too. Weird lot

I thought that was an Arrested Development song! 😁

[Sammy7nil]

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Not according to their statement.

Whose word are Hearts relying on to prove they don't owe Barnsley compensation? Stendel's? We can perhaps assume so because last week the Barnsley chairman was bemoaning the fact nobody at Hearts seemed to have heard of a phone and were insisting on communicating by letter. If Hearts are putting their faith in Stendel's words, then Barnsley's revelations about how he went behind their back to try to engineer a move to another Championship don't paint him in a good light when it comes to a straight answer.

This could run for a while - and will hopefully dominate tomorrow's press conference when they finally unveil him.

Barnsley said they had separated ! For me the big question is when was he last paid? If he has received no money and no contact for Barnsley since they stopped paying him I think Hearts will be fine. I hope I am wrong.

[Jim44]

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He wasn't sacked - he was "removed" as Head Coach. So he is still a Barnsley employee, according to them.

I can’t find the article now but I am positive it had the word ‘sacked’ in it.

[lord bunberry]

So let’s get things straight here. The delay in him becoming manager was down to the negotiations with Barnsley over compensation that we now know never happened. We now also know that while he was manager of Barnsley he was trying to get himself another job while at the same time heading down the pub to tell the Barnsley fans how committed he was to their club.
I know I’m just a bitter peg selling hobo, but I think the truth is that this guy is a snake that was holding out for a better offer. Now he’s here he’ll charm the pants of the Duncan’s and say what they want to hear while all the time looking after himself.

[Eyrie]

I've heard of lions led by donkeys but this is the first time I've heard of donkeys led by a snake.

[Topographic Hibby]

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I can’t find the article now but I am positive it had the word ‘sacked’ in it.

A lazy journo article maybe had sacked in it. But here it is from the horses mouth:

https://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/news/20...statement0912/

Para 4 "..led to removal of Mr. Stendel as Head Coach.." Doesn't say sacked, terminated, resigned or similar. Removed from post, but still employed by...is my interpretation.

[Since452]

Levein must have had a hand in the recruitment process after all. It's well known Harry Potter can talk to snakes

[04Sauzee]

Stendel, who led the Tykes to an impressive promotion from League One last season, leaves with the club second bottom in the second tier, having won one league game in 11. Adam Murray, the club’s under-18 head coach, steps in as caretaker.

“Barnsley Football Club confirms that it has separated from Daniel Stendel with immediate effect,” read a club statement. “Adam Murray has been appointed caretaker manager.”

Stendel took charge at Oakwell in June 2018 on a two-year contract and the former Hannover coach ensured an immediate return to the Championship, his team finishing runners-up to Luton.

[Topographic Hibby]

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Stendel, who led the Tykes to an impressive promotion from League One last season, leaves with the club second bottom in the second tier, having won one league game in 11. Adam Murray, the club’s under-18 head coach, steps in as caretaker.

“Barnsley Football Club confirms that it has separated from Daniel Stendel with immediate effect,” read a club statement. “Adam Murray has been appointed caretaker manager.”

Stendel took charge at Oakwell in June 2018 on a two-year contract and the former Hannover coach ensured an immediate return to the Championship, his team finishing runners-up to Luton.

Touche…!!

TBH, I really don't like the sound of Barnsley's owners. They've said two different things in two statements then. No wonder he wanted out and was talking to someone else.

[Since452]

Hecky couldn't wait to get out of Barnsley too despite doing a better job than Stendel. Something fishy at that club

[Rumble de Thump]

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Hecky couldn't wait to get out of Barnsley too despite doing a better job than Stendel. Something fishy at that club

Heckingbottom was offered the chance to manage a bigger, better club. Stendel is going to Hearts.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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You don’t know who to believe and it’s hard to make sense of all the cross fire, but, and I promise I will wash out my mouth with carbolic soap, I think any legal outcome will favour the Jambos. Barnsley, in their statement, say they sacked him and the Jambos employed him on the basis he had been sacked. Barnsley’s complaints about Stendel talking to another club is irrelevant and it seems to me that this is a bit of a smokescreen to blacken his character. Hope I’m way off beam with this tho’.

At no time and in no statement by Barnsley have the "sacked" him. He was relieved of his Head Coach duties.

[Since452]

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Heckingbottom was offered the chance to manage a bigger, better club. Stendel is going to Hearts.

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[007]

It is no stretch of the imagination to think a guy who would breach his contract of employment would also mislead a prospective employer about his current contract situation.

[lord bunberry]

It’s completely obvious to me that he had to get himself on the sexual offenders register before he got the gig, that’s where the delay came from. He’s clearly satisfied the criteria and is being unveiled tomorrow.

[bingo70]

Sounds like there’s similarities between this case and when we signed Zemmama.

Think we lost that case, be interesting to see how far Barnsley take this.

[Since452]

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It is no stretch of the imagination to think a guy who would breach his contract of employment would also mislead a prospective employer about his current contract situation.

Seems a decidedly dodgy and untrustworthy character. If he does well, and that's a big if, he'll be showing what's beneath his lederhosen to every chairman in the English Championship as soon as Mrs Budge is away buying another maroon dress

[FilipinoHibs]

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Seems a decidedly dodgy and untrustworthy character. If he does well, and that's a big if, he'll be showing what's beneath his lederhosen to every chairman in the English Championship as soon as Mrs Budge is away buying another maroon dress

You read the story in the News. He tried to take his staff with him to another club without letting Barnsley know. Why he was relieved of his duties. Barnsley say still under contract to them. Hearts must buy him out. Hearts claim they owe nothing!

[Since452]

Since they sacked Levein they've allowed themselves to fall 10 points behind Hibs while fannying around being rejected by Adams and Ross and chasing sssssStendel. Absolutely tremendous.

[LancsHibs]

I’m finding the whole thing ‘pleasing’, I wonder if Hibs knew about these contractual issues and that’s why we gave Stendel a swerve. Or maybe it’s because Jack Ross is much better and we got our 1st choice😉

[Since452]

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I’m finding the whole thing ‘pleasing’, I wonder if Hibs knew about these contractual issues and that’s why we gave Stendel a swerve. Or maybe it’s because Jack Ross is much better and we got our 1st choice😉

I don't think Stendel was even a consideration. We got our man. But if he was we would have done our homework. We're a professional football club. A well run one.

[theonlywayisup]

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Thought it might be a good idea to have one of these akin to the Rangers one so that when something amusing happens to them we don't clutter the main board with 10 threads and piss everyone off.

Anyway, just read on BBC gossip that not only is Haring having to see a specialist after his return from injury didn't work out, Mulraney is out for at least a month. They're having injury problems akin to ours last season.

Good idea on the single thread idea, but will only work if Admins merge new threads into it. For example, the "Hertz on the rob again" thread.

[Stuart93]

Hearts’ PR machine the EEN are in overdrive right now.

Some of it is ****ing laughable and seems to be glossing over the fact that the guy was let go after 1 win in 11 games

If he’s a failure these articles are going look even more ridiculous.

[WillowbraeHibby]

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Hearts’ PR machine the EEN are in overdrive right now.

Some of it is ****ing laughable and seems to be glossing over the fact that the guy was let go after 1 win in 11 games

If he’s a failure these articles are going look even more ridiculous.

Not what some think over on the other side... An ambitious and spot on appointment.. Really??

[Not In The Know]

Hearts know there will be a contractual dispute but had to rush the appointment after they lost AGAIN at the weekend. Hence no picture with the joining statement and just a late Iphone pic of him at the arrival gate at EDI

This will cost them a few bob that's for sure. All this "we did nothing untoward" chat is just bluff. Its not like they would enter a tribunal saying they were wrong....

Pony up mystery benefactors there is another incompetency levy to pay!

[Cataplana]

It's noticeable that Ann has been demoted all the way down from Queen, to Mrs, without even a passing nod to Dr.

How long till the open letters start saying they know where she lives?

[Carheenlea]

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I don't think Stendel was even a consideration. We got our man. But if he was we would have done our homework. We're a professional football club. A well run one.

It’s been said that Hibs recruitment isn’t just concentrated on players that are within our budget, but suitable head coaches are likewise observed so in the eventuality of a change the club is not starting with a blank sheet of paper.