The generic Hearts thread

[007]

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A fan enquired about the guarantee earlier in the summer and Hearts confirmed that the guarantee was for attending matches in person at Tynecastle.

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That doesn't look like an 'official club reply' to me, more like a reply to an e-mail or something like that?

If it has come from someone within the club using a club email address replying to a Season Ticket query then that should be official enough. Refunds or arbitration in the Small Claims Court. 😂 Leslie Deans has ruled himself out as Hearts' defence lawyer.

Well, well, well, Hearts in their very own mis-selling scandal
à la Banks and PPI.

[Green Man]

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A fan enquired about the guarantee earlier in the summer and Hearts confirmed that the guarantee was for attending matches in person at Tynecastle.

That’s an hilariously poorly worded sentence. “The likelihood of fans attending is unlikely” 😂

[CapitalGreen]

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That doesn't look like an 'official club reply' to me, more like a reply to an e-mail or something like that?

That’s exactly what it is. As I stated in my post a fan enquired about the guarantee and that was the response from the club.

[bingo70]

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So Hearts fans are just clicking that fans aren’t back in football stadiums?

Imo they should take someone to court about that.

£10m seems a reasonable figure, just to make sure they’ve got a case though someone better check it with an Edinburgh based conveyancing solicitor. They’d definitely know

[Juniper Greens]

There must be a way to blame Doncaster and Lawell for this?!

[bingo70]

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There must be a way to blame Doncaster and Lawell for this?!

Why stop at those two? They should blame every other club in Scottish football apart from Inverness and Partick.

Rob the other clubs of the maroon pound.

[Bostonhibby]

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So Hearts fans are just clicking that fans aren’t back in football stadiums?

Can I just point out what an absolutely cracking job Mrs doctor Budge is still doing.

I never thought Romanov's era would be matched but she's put a whole new spin on it and the fans are just marching along zombie like.

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[Bostonhibby]

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That’s an hilariously poorly worded sentence. “The likelihood of fans attending is unlikely”

They didn't get to where they are today by having unlikelihoods being likelihoods.



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[007]

This looks like a job for New Guy to come along and save the day (once he's found a phone box so he can put on his cape and his pants on over his trousers). Or will he just hide and do nothing. 🤔

[Dr What If?]

We really do have a lot to thank Hearts for, the abrupt end to the season and no Euro's left a horrific footballing void. Just like back in the Great War however, when the Empire was creaking under the might of the Kaiser.....up stood Heart of Midlothian. Their complete lack of ability to grasp the fact that something far more serious than football was gripping the world lead them to their fight, their crusade for justice. Success would have been predictable but their failure, their relegation was poetry.
It didn't end there, no compensation and a truncated season, they even had to watch other clubs enjoy their holidays by training on pitches they couldn't use, pitches they tell the world are 'theirs'.
Is it too much to ask for more? I know I'm being greedy and for that I'm sorry.....but to see them take their last seasons form into this year would be some level of compensation for the ****ty year we have all had to endure.

[Rumble de Thump]

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There must be a way to blame Doncaster and Lawell for this?!

As Pablo on Kickback says:

We're a victim of circumstances yet again.

If we hadn't been going through the bull**** thrown at us by Scottish football, we'd never have needed to make the statement on 18 games which was made at a time when we didn't know for certain which league we were going to be playing in. Or even if the Championship had played the full season, it wouldn't have been an issue.

[calumhibee1]

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As Pablo on Kickback says:

We're a victim of circumstances yet again.

If we hadn't been going through the bull**** thrown at us by Scottish football, we'd never have needed to make the statement on 18 games which was made at a time when we didn't know for certain which league we were going to be playing in. Or even if the Championship had played the full season, it wouldn't have been an issue.

They were the only people that didn’t know what league they would be playing in. Everyone else knew.

[Since452]

Just think. If they weren't so ***** on the park none of this would be happening. They can blame, Covid-19, Neil Doncaster, Nicola Sturgeon, St Mirren, the weather, whoever or whatever they want but they are there because they are *****. The situation is unfortunate yes but if they had won more than 4 games by March they wouldn't be crying about any of this. Season tickets included. Only their own ****ty club to blame. Snivelling little runts. Suck it up.

[PatHead]

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Just think. If they weren't so ***** on the park none of this would be happening. They can blame, Covid-19, Neil Doncaster, Nicola Sturgeon, St Mirren, the weather, whoever or whatever they want but they are there because they are *****. The situation is unfortunate yes but if they had won more than 4 games by March they wouldn't be crying about any of this. Season tickets included. Only their own ****ty club to blame. Snivelling little runts. Suck it up.

Just think,if they had beaten At Mitten in the last game of the season.....

[Bostonhibby]

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As Pablo on Kickback says:

We're a victim of circumstances yet again.

If we hadn't been going through the bull**** thrown at us by Scottish football, we'd never have needed to make the statement on 18 games which was made at a time when we didn't know for certain which league we were going to be playing in. Or even if the Championship had played the full season, it wouldn't have been an issue.

If only Budge hadn't chosen , yet again, to demonstrate her lack of mastery of when to say nothing and when it is the right time how to make a sensible statement rather than shooting from the hip to please the idiots.

Budge must stay.

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[jeffers]

Maybe missing something here but why did they make the statement about their season ticket guaranteeing them attendance at 18 home games ? Not aware of any other clubs making similar guarantees. I bought my season ticket with no such expectation. I’m guessing the Hearts fans did too, but having made that promise can’t see how they can back out of it. Probably just tap their benefactors for more donations. Talk about wasting money....

[Prof. Shaggy]

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That’s an hilariously poorly worded sentence. “The likelihood of fans attending is unlikely” 😂

No, it is worse.

... likeliness.....??

[Jack]

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Maybe missing something here but why did they make the statement about their season ticket guaranteeing them attendance at 18 home games ? Not aware of any other clubs making similar guarantees. I bought my season ticket with no such expectation. I’m guessing the Hearts fans did too, but having made that promise can’t see how they can back out of it. Probably just tap their benefactors for more donations. Talk about wasting money....

I dont think many supporters would have expected to be in the stadium early doors.

However the original hertz statement when they were flogging their season tickets was ambiguous. Apparently when one of them got his crayons out and wrote to his club the reply said they would get their 18 games attending the stadium.

[04Sauzee]

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Maybe missing something here but why did they make the statement about their season ticket guaranteeing them attendance at 18 home games ? Not aware of any other clubs making similar guarantees. I bought my season ticket with no such expectation. I’m guessing the Hearts fans did too, but having made that promise can’t see how they can back out of it. Probably just tap their benefactors for more donations. Talk about wasting money....

Because to some that's how it's worded. I read it as the season ticket would guarantee the purchaser 18 live games at Tynecastle, that could be carried lon to next season.
Also at the time of the statement im pretty sute there was no agreement in place regarding streaming games so not sure why Hearts fans would think it was anything other than to sit in a stand at Tynecastle.

I genuinely believe the Hearts fans have been deliberately screwed over.

[brog]

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No, it is worse.

... likeliness.....??

Indeed!! Could that be the new term of reverence for Budgie, Your Likeliness!!

[007]

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Because to some that's how it's worded. I read it as the season ticket would guarantee the purchaser 18 live games at Tynecastle, that could be carried lon to next season.
Also at the time of the statement im pretty sute there was no agreement in place regarding streaming games so not sure why Hearts fans would think it was anything other than to sit in a stand at Tynecastle.

I genuinely believe the Hearts fans have been deliberately screwed over.

She does treat them like mugs, because she can and does get away with it.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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I genuinely believe the Hearts fans have been deliberately screwed over.

You could even feel sorry for them...but then again😉

[CMurdoch]

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Maybe missing something here but why did they make the statement about their season ticket guaranteeing them attendance at 18 home games ? Not aware of any other clubs making similar guarantees. I bought my season ticket with no such expectation. I’m guessing the Hearts fans did too, but having made that promise can’t see how they can back out of it. Probably just tap their benefactors for more donations. Talk about wasting money....

Not for the 1st time Mrs B didn't think it through properly.
Like a lot of folk she obviously thought fans would be back into grounds by the time their league started in October and backed her opinion with a publicity grabbing season ticket guarantee.

I thought we would have been back at Easter Road for the Celtic game on the 21st November and I also remember an early Jason Leitch appearance on "Off The Ball" where he said we would be back to normal in Autumn.

Now reality has struck and Hearts have been forced to play an embarrassing game of semantics with their supporters or go bankrupt.
Even after a pay cut Messrs Berra, Naismith, Damour & Boyce are costing Hearts circa £100k a month. Add to that the rest of the playing squads wages, golf mans salary, the rent of the Oriam and a large unnecessary legal bill and you have a need to pull a fast one to hold things together.

[Joe6-2]

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Indeed!! Could that be the new term of reverence for Budgie, Your Likeliness!!

😂😂😂

[GordonHFC]

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Half and half scarves?

Inverness Caledonian Thistle written on 90% of it and Hearts on the wee bit at the end.

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Surely the other way round with ICT on one end and Heart of Midlothian but we are actually no longer in Midlothian on the big bit?

[Bostonhibby]

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Surely the other way round with ICT on one end and Heart of Midlothian but we are actually no longer in Midlothian on the big bit?

A real clash of the titans to see who is bigliest?

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[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/jamtarts/status/...017581056?s=21

Replies to that tweet are unreal.

Few of them have really lost the plot over the last few months.

[RitchieHibs]

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https://twitter.com/jamtarts/status/...017581056?s=21

Replies to that tweet are unreal.

Few of them have really lost the plot over the last few months.

Who cares?

They are an irrelevance.

And completely dugs^^^e

[Keith_M]

I presumed the 18 home game guarantee was intended to cover matches in a curtailed season in the event that the relegation was confirmed.

So, they get 14 games this season where they either attend in person or view it over a live stream (same as Hibs). Then 4 games are rolled over into the following season, for which they get a credit against their renewed season ticket.

If they've actually worded it as 'attend in person' (or similar), then that does indeed open a whole can of worms.



I sense a plea to Benny Factor for extra funds

[Eyrie]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Anderson wouldn't invest in a company that performs as badly as Hearts, so at what point will he demonstrate his professional ability and start questioning the mismanagement of his funding?