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    January Window

    What do we do in the Jan window?

    I think it's fair to say we are badly lacking in quality players, up and down the park.

    So, what do we need to do.

    Can you realistically ship out people we just bought or are we stuck with them?

    How much of a rebuild is feasible or is this more of an 'crisis support' with 2/3 players?

    Who's a dead cert for leaving?

    PS, wont be popular, but I actually think PH will still be our manager. Think results will be 'good' enough for him to hang on. Or, more accuratley, not bad enough for them to have to sack him.


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    We need quality in Jan. Everyone knows that just as much as we all know Heckingbottom isn't the man to trust with funds to bring quality in.
    There will be movement though. One of our more senior players has been told they won't feature and can leave for game time.

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    Cannot even think about January if heckingbottom remains tbh. We need a defensive midfielder and striker as a priority. The problem we now have is the length of contracts that have been handed out to heckys huddies. Where is the money coming from if its not coming from the owner and we will likely have no transfer money coming in?

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    Must be loads of ST holders thinking about not renewing so the same funds will not be available in August unless there is a remarkable turnaround plus expect a drop in half season ticket sales in December to watch the dross currently on offer in January

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    I dont want to derail your thread but.......

    The question is irrelevant until the manager is removed and someone else comes in and - potentially - gets more out of the current players.

    Thats why removing PH immediately and replacing him soon is so important.

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    Our third January in a row where we'll have to address major failings from the previous window...

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    Quote Originally Posted by green day View Post
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    I dont want to derail your thread but.......

    The question is irrelevant until the manager is removed and someone else comes in and - potentially - gets more out of the current players.

    Thats why removing PH immediately and replacing him soon is so important.
    Whys the question irrelevant? Whatever happens, PH or no PH, there will be movement in the January window, I think we can all be pretty certain of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenio View Post
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    What do we do in the Jan window?

    I think it's fair to say we are badly lacking in quality players, up and down the park.

    So, what do we need to do.

    Can you realistically ship out people we just bought or are we stuck with them?

    How much of a rebuild is feasible or is this more of an 'crisis support' with 2/3 players?

    Who's a dead cert for leaving?

    PS, wont be popular, but I actually think PH will still be our manager. Think results will be 'good' enough for him to hang on. Or, more accuratley, not bad enough for them to have to sack him.
    Id look to move on Slivka, Horgan, Newell & probably Middleton as a priority.

    Wouldnt lose any sleep over any of Stevenson, Hanlon, Mallan, Doidge, Naismith, Vela, Shaw (loan), Murray (loan), Gray (transition into coaching now), McGregor (transition into coaching now) or Jackson moving on or freeing up wages.

    Think we desperately need quality out wide and Omeonga-esque energy in between Allan and possibly Hallberg in the DM role. Probably only get one of them, and likely to only be on loan rather than a long term solution.

    Sad that for the 3rd or 4th season in a row we need major surgery in January to rectify the summer window and another clear out.

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    Regardless of managerial position (or because of) we need at least two strikers. Doidge and Shaw are just not doing it, Kamberi is completely out the picture. That's before we look at lack of steel in midfield and defence.


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    Id look to move on Slivka, Horgan, Newell & probably Middleton as a priority.

    Wouldnt lose any sleep over any of Stevenson, Hanlon, Mallan, Doidge, Naismith, Vela, Shaw (loan), Murray (loan), Gray (transition into coaching now), McGregor (transition into coaching now) or Jackson moving on or freeing up wages.

    Think we desperately need quality out wide and Omeonga-esque energy in between Allan and possibly Hallberg in the DM role. Probably only get one of them, and likely to only be on loan rather than a long term solution.

    Sad that for the 3rd or 4th season in a row we need major surgery in January to rectify the summer window and another clear out.
    D you really think moving out 15 players in mid season would be a good idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    D you really think moving out 15 players in mid season would be a good idea?
    No, but Im not advocating moving 15 players on in January. I said 3 or 4 Id look to move on as a priority. Then listed others I wouldnt lose any sleep over any of them moving on.

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    Griffiths on loan

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    I think if things stay the same kamberi will be wanting away before his stock completely disappears. Middleton can go back as he hasn't done much.re same for Naismith.

    The others I can't see us being able to move. Most are on contracts with another year at least to run and don't see anybody wanting them.

    We need a striker and a midfielder as a priority. Attacking midfield we are actually creating chances but there is no cutting edge. Defensive mid is non existent and leaving our back line totally exposed

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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    Whys the question irrelevant? Whatever happens, PH or no PH, there will be movement in the January window, I think we can all be pretty certain of that.
    Perhaps I should have clarified - its irrelevant to discuss it ahead of a new manager appointment.........as any new manager might be able to get more out of certain players.

    Once we get a new guy in and see exactly how sheeiiite these players are, then we can get the massive broom out

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    We'll sign a couple of loans from the English 3rd div and then say we've run out of money.

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    I'm bamboozled why he's still in a job.

    His job wasn't safe before the international break and we are now worse off in league position and played relegation candidates to fall into the playoff spot.

    What are the board seeing? Each game slipping past us. Kamberi's interview pre Hamilton he basically blamed hecky for the style of football he didn't seem happy talking about hecky. So he has clearly lost the dressing room what is it actually going to take I'm pulling my hair out here.

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    Complete rebuild in January. To do that, we need to hope that the diddies we signed in the summer still have enough credit in the bank in England to clear the wages. We then need to invest a lot of money in rebuilding this squad. Hopefully the next manager (I live in hope) will have the ability to transform this squad, otherwise I really do fear the worst.

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    I like the look of Daniel Harvie at Ayr. He's a left back that gets forward plenty. Lewis needs competition as he's been gash this season and isn't getting any younger.

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    We need to get rid of Heckingbottom as a priority as others have said but in terms of his signings, I could live with the fact that if we were to get shot of Vela and Newell the others can do a job. That doesn't mean we don't need another striker and a DM but I think Maxwell, James, Hallberg, Jackson all have something to offer and as a 3rd striker I think Doidge could even prove a different dynamic to Flo and AN Other so am not convinced it needs a clear out but 2 good signings and release a couple and we are certainly competitive.

    The biggest thing is the style and mentality and that comes from the manager.

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    Empty Vela, Newell and Doidge

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    Whatever happens with the Manager we need to get away from this practice of spending all your budget on lower league players and hoping they will make the grade. You might get 1 or 2 out of 10 who are decent if you're lucky. In most years our signings were short term loanees so we could punt them when they turned out to be duds, but this time around we don't have that option due to the length of contracts handed out.

    Our focus shouldn't be on January signings, but getting a new coach in to grind out wins with the existing players. Although the squad has serious limitations in certain positions, it is nowhere near bad enough to be involved in a relegation fight. Be in no doubt though, stick with the current Coach and we will almost certainly be in a relegation dog fight. His tactical nous, ability to set up a team and motivational qualities are clearly zero.

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    We dont have any money.

    Hence why Shaw was being used for a swap / loan option.

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    We shouldn't be shifting a single player - or bringing any others in - until we have a new manager. There's plenty in that squad to get us to mid table with a manager who knows what to do in the SPL.

    I wouldn't give PH a penny to spend, in fact if they do then that will be the point where I become convinced that a management clear out is needed for most roles below the owner.

    PH out in early November please and his replacement in quickly enough to be able to appraise his squad and ready to perform whatever miracles he can with a bubbly and sixpence in the January window.

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    We dont have any money.

    Hence why Shaw was being used for a swap / loan option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    We shouldn't be shifting a single player - or bringing any others in - until we have a new manager. There's plenty in that squad to get us to mid table with a manager who knows what to do in the SPL.

    I wouldn't give PH a penny to spend, in fact if they do then that will be the point where I become convinced that a management clear out is needed for most roles below the owner.

    PH out in early November please and his replacement in quickly enough to be able to appraise his squad and ready to perform whatever miracles he can with a bubbly and sixpence in the January window.
    I'd agree there's enough in that squad to get top 6. Don't think a lot of the players are as bad as people are making them out to be.

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    There is no point moaning about Heckingbottom on these pages.

    The only way to get rid of him is to let the board know loud and clear on sat.

    He will be sitting beside them in the stand.

    Empty seats and unhappy stands make his position untenable

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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    I'd agree there's enough in that squad to get top 6. Don't think a lot of the players are as bad as people are making them out to be.
    They are pretty bad but most other sides in the SPL are pretty bad too.

    A couple of wins would make a huge difference.

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    Im worried that Hecky has already used the budget that would normally have been kept for January.

    It must have cost a bit to lure the players from England, who irrespective how good or bad they play, would have been on more than is normally paid at Hibs.

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