Graeme Mathie

[B.H.F.C]

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They can’t just be over ruled on any old ***** otherwise there’s no point in having that whole department- which seems to have been the case this summer and last summer.

Of course there is a point to having it. Who else would do the PowerPoint presentations to send to prospective signings?

Seriously though, and not just based on Brooster’s post above, I think you could look at the signings and ascertain straight away who are his and who fits in more with the previous type of signings we’ve made so they’re still impacting in some way.

[BoomtownHibees]

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I'm not willing to say.

Vela is one that I’ve saw mentioned on here. Newell would be my guess for the other

[oldbutdim]

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Vela is one that I’ve saw mentioned on here. Newell would be my guess for the other

I'd put my mortgage on it being Newell; it's a certainty.

Fair enough, I don't actually have a mortgage because the house is paid up, but that's entirely irrelevant.

[J-C]

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I'm not willing to say.

I'll say, I was told Vela and Newell.

Vela has taken an age to catch up fitness wise and still looks slower then a week in jail, Newell just looks like he's up here for a holiday, hardly plays except the last 10 mins of each game, just to get his appearance money.

[JimBHibees]

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I'll say, I was told Vela and Newell.

Vela has taken an age to catch up fitness wise and still looks slower then a week in jail, Newell just looks like he's up here for a holiday, hardly plays except the last 10 mins of each game, just to get his appearance money.

Actually think Vela will continue to improve. Not played for a while before he joined us.

[angus hibby]

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I'll say, I was told Vela and Newell.

Vela has taken an age to catch up fitness wise and still looks slower then a week in jail, Newell just looks like he's up here for a holiday, hardly plays except the last 10 mins of each game, just to get his appearance money.

Newell has been an unused sub on at least 3 occasions that I can think of. He started the first 2 league games IIRC, so can only have come on as a sub on 2, maybe 3 occasions.

[Stuart93]

I’m not sure it’s a great sign there’s been no announcement regarding someone replacing George Craig...I hope the wheels aren’t falling off with regards to the structure put in place at the club post relegation

[Jones28]

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I'll say, I was told Vela and Newell.

Vela has taken an age to catch up fitness wise and still looks slower then a week in jail, Newell just looks like he's up here for a holiday, hardly plays except the last 10 mins of each game, just to get his appearance money.

There was something on a Bolton forum about Vela enjoying the party lifestyle too.

[Jones28]

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If they had input in Brian Graham, Neil Earldley, Nelom, Mavrais, Big Dave, Rherras, Hyndman and Bigiriama im quite pleased.

6 of those you mention were on short term deals as either cover or extended trials. You can’t bash them for giving players a chance to earn an extended deal. If they were dishing out 3/4 year deals on them that’s fair enough.

[ian cruise]

Fair bit of revisionism going on re:Vela. It's easy to be critical of his recent firm but when he signed almost everyone was positive about it with comments saying they couldn't believe we've signed such a talent, etc. The only person I remember who was overly critical was BoltonHibee and in his defense he was one of the few who'd actually seen a lot of him playing.

If the papers had release news that we were after him in advance and it never happened he'd be another in the list of players the club never showed enough ambition to get, similar to Ojo.

[matty_f]

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I'll say, I was told Vela and Newell.

Vela has taken an age to catch up fitness wise and still looks slower then a week in jail, Newell just looks like he's up here for a holiday, hardly plays except the last 10 mins of each game, just to get his appearance money.

There have been a few posts with that accusation and also hinting to him only getting a game because he's Hecky's mate. Not really helpful, and I don't think the allegations stand up to much scrutiny.

[Hibbyradge]

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Fair bit of revisionism going on re:Vela. It's easy to be critical of his recent firm but when he signed almost everyone was positive about it with comments saying they couldn't believe we've signed such a talent, etc. The only person I remember who was overly critical was BoltonHibee and in his defense he was one of the few who'd actually seen a lot of him playing.

If the papers had release news that we were after him in advance and it never happened he'd be another in the list of players the club never showed enough ambition to get, similar to Ojo.

Yes, people have changed their tune about Vela, but it's not really revisionism.

Hopes were high when he signed, he's been observed playing, and hopes have been dashed.

There was a lot of revisionism after folk saw Efe Ambrose play for us too!

[jacomo]

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There have been a few posts with that accusation and also hinting to him only getting a game because he's Hecky's mate. Not really helpful, and I don't think the allegations stand up to much scrutiny.

The rumours may well be just that, but they flourish because of a disconnect between the fans and the team.

Ditto the discussion on another thread about Doidge and whether he’s been out drinking or not.

The manager and players are in a hole and although we’ve picked up some results recently the team is far from convincing.

They’ve got it all to prove this season and the grumbling will continue until they do.

[ian cruise]

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Yes, people have changed their tune about Vela, but it's not really revisionism.

Hopes were high when he signed, he's been observed playing, and hopes have been dashed.

There was a lot of revisionism after folk saw Efe Ambrose play for us too!

I think there is an element of revisionism when we're consistently seeing criticism of our recruitment team and strategy. I don't disagree the signings have underperformed but the recruitment team signed exactly the type of players we keep seeing other clubs making and our fans ask why we can't do the same. We had a purple patch where more signings were good than bad around the cup win but that's not the norm for many teams.

It's similar to when we were lucky enough to get the golden generation through our youth set up then everyone assumed we'd started to do something disastrously different as we weren't churning out the same quality year after year.

[J-C]

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There have been a few posts with that accusation and also hinting to him only getting a game because he's Hecky's mate. Not really helpful, and I don't think the allegations stand up to much scrutiny.

Wee bit sarcasm Matty, just trying to figure out Heckingbottom's mindset when it came to bringing him on as a sub for 4 out of the last 5 games, always for Hallberg.

[ian cruise]

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Wee bit sarcasm Matty, just trying to figure out Heckingbottom's mindset when it came to bringing him on as a sub for 4 out of the last 5 games, always for Hallberg.

Maybe it's because we spent a decent amount of money on his wages and though the management accept he's not hit the ground running enough to be starting games, they're hoping is he gets some run outs he'll learn to adapt to Scottish football and grow in confidence?

Or maybe it is a Producers-esque strategy by Newell and Heckingbottom to make Hibs so poor the both get sacked with a bumper pay out?

I know which I think is less likely.

[ancient hibee]

It’s not quite so cut and dried with the manager/head coach having the final say.I believe that the club will never bring in a player that the coach doesn’ t want but it may be that the coach will say he must have such and such player but the club will tell him no.

[J-C]

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Fair bit of revisionism going on re:Vela. It's easy to be critical of his recent firm but when he signed almost everyone was positive about it with comments saying they couldn't believe we've signed such a talent, etc. The only person I remember who was overly critical was BoltonHibee and in his defense he was one of the few who'd actually seen a lot of him playing.

If the papers had release news that we were after him in advance and it never happened he'd be another in the list of players the club never showed enough ambition to get, similar to Ojo.

TBH most knew little about him apart from the interest from Liverpool and Man U around 4 years ago but looking back at some news clippings, it's obvious he's never reached the potential shown when he was younger, I think that's why h's been a disappointment since he came in.

[ian cruise]

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TBH most knew little about him apart from the interest from Liverpool and Man U around 4 years ago but looking back at some news clippings, it's obvious he's never reached the potential shown when he was younger, I think that's why h's been a disappointment since he came in.

It's not really Vela's fault if people had unrealistic expectations of him based on 4 years ago though, also he's only been playing at this level for about 2 months, he could still come good.

I don't think our recruitment has been that bad, I think how our manager is using the players that we have is the problem. Unfortunately until we have a turn around on form or a new manager this constant bad feeling towards the team/club that is floating over Hibs right now is not going anywhere.

[SMAXXA]

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There was something on a Bolton forum about Vela enjoying the party lifestyle too.

So that’s him and Doidge party animals now lol

[Steve Austin]

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Surprised. I thought they had just hired a guy from Southampton or is this for a different role?

Yes,Ross Wilson is the guy?.He wants Mathie in his new look recruitment team at Ibrox.
If we lose both him and Craig its a whole new team at ER

[oldbutdim]

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So that’s him and Doidge party animals now lol

Newell's off the hook I guess.

He'd turn up the wrong party or fail to get past the doorman.

[hibsboy69]

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Mathie and Craig looking to get out after having no input whatsoever in our early season transfer activity.

Well from what I've been told Mathie will be getting George Craig's job !

So one of us is wrong !

[jodjam]

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Newell's off the hook I guess.

He'd turn up the wrong party or fail to get past the doorman.

He was golfing today at Archerfield with Boyle and Whittaker

[Brooster]

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Well from what I've been told Mathie will be getting George Craig's job !

So one of us is wrong !

I hope you are right. He was certainly looking elsewhere before George announced his departure.

[Brightside]

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Vela is one that I’ve saw mentioned on here. Newell would be my guess for the other

Vela was but forward by the dept....even before Hecky.

[Brightside]

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I’m not sure it’s a great sign there’s been no announcement regarding someone replacing George Craig...I hope the wheels aren’t falling off with regards to the structure put in place at the club post relegation

I think we will see a host of announcements at the AGM.

[PatHead]

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I think we will see a host of announcements at the AGM.

Hopefully before then. Be good to get some certainty and momentum about the place again.

[The 90+2]

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I think we will see a host of announcements at the AGM.

I don’t think the AGM will be the time for announcements and resignations etc so I’m thinking in the lead up. Something must be brewing behind the scenes.

[Brightside]

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I don’t think the AGM will be the time for announcements and resignations etc so I’m thinking in the lead up. Something must be brewing behind the scenes.

Yep there is a lot of stuff going on.