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    Tony Mowbray

    This cropped up on my social media this morning - what a great team this was to watch. Used to look forward all week for the next game to come around. He didn’t enjoy a great derby record, but watching that team was more often than not a joy.

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    Yip remember the team used to run out to John Peels all time fav record Teenage Kicks by The Undertones

    On their day a brilliant team to watch The Golden Generation led by a very good young up and coming Manager Tony Mowbray

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    Derby record wasn’t bad in terms of wins but the defeats tended to be heavier.

    First season we had 2 draws at home - both of which we should’ve won, a familiar story. But did also have that great win at Tynie and a 2-1 defeat.

    Second season took 2 thumpings at Tynecastle but won both home games 2-0 and 2-1. Obviously also hammered in the SC semi but we know circumstances didn’t help there. Also this was peak financial doping time for the Yams

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    He possibly got lucky with inheriting a youth team of good players covering the whole pitch. But his transfers to finish the team were excellent. The likes of Murphy, Jones, Benji, Hogg etc. Up there with Stubbs as my favourite Hibs managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barman Stanton View Post
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    He possibly got lucky with inheriting a youth team of good players covering the whole pitch. But his transfers to finish the team were excellent. The likes of Murphy, Jones, Benji, Hogg etc. Up there with Stubbs as my favourite Hibs managers.
    There was nothing lucky about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Horde View Post
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    There was nothing lucky about it.
    Eh? How was it not lucky him inheriting that team? Did he have anything to do with their development? You have completely lost me with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Horde View Post
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    There was nothing lucky about it.
    Not sure I agree with that. He deserves all the credit in the world, we were a great side. But he inherited 5 or 6 players in Whittaker, Brown, Thomson, Riordan, O’Connor and Fletcher who would have been well out our price range had they not came through our youth set up. So in that regard, he was a bit lucky.

    He did of course compliment them with some outstanding signings.. Boozy, Murphy and Sproule being the real standouts in that regard.

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    From what I remember we could look like championship contenders one week vs Celtic and Rangers and then get gubbed by the likes of St Mirren the next.

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    A friend of mine who works in sports promotion told me that when he met Tony just after his appointment he had to go back to basics with the players. For example get them passing again to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    Not sure I agree with that. He deserves all the credit in the world, we were a great side. But he inherited 5 or 6 players in Whittaker, Brown, Thomson, Riordan, O’Connor and Fletcher who would have been well out our price range had they not came through our youth set up. So in that regard, he was a bit lucky.

    He did of course compliment them with some outstanding signings.. Boozy, Murphy and Sproule being the real standouts in that regard.
    I'm eagerly waiting on him telling us what role Mowbray had in their development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barman Stanton View Post
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    I'm eagerly waiting on him telling us what role Mowbray had in their development.
    Do you mean like giving them a platform & belief to become better players? Like that kind of development or a different kind?

    From what I can remember, none of these guys where playing the same way under Blobby. Mowbray was definitely lucky to arrive at the same time as them all but he certainly helped their development in to the players they all later became.

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    I'm eagerly waiting on him telling us what role Mowbray had in their development.
    An absolute massive one? Playing them every week, believing in them, improving them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyS View Post
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    Do you mean like giving them a platform & belief to become better players? Like that kind of development or a different kind?

    From what I can remember, none of these guys where playing the same way under Blobby. Mowbray was definitely lucky to arrive at the same time as them all but he certainly helped their development in to the players they all later became.
    For me the Golden Generation were mostly naturally gifted players. We had forwards like Riordan O'Connor and Fletcher. Midfielders like Brown and Thomson. These were always going to be good players. Plus they had played a lot of games under Williamson. Even had the experience of a Cup Final.

    So yeah I think Mowbray was lucky to inherit them. He filled all the gaps brilliantly (apart from a decent keeper) and turned us into a very good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Yip remember the team used to run out to John Peels all time fav record Teenage Kicks by The Undertones

    On their day a brilliant team to watch The Golden Generation led by a very good young up and coming Manager Tony Mowbray
    Teenage kicks brings back memories should start playing that again, deeks and garry with their blonde streaks and golden boots, better times

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    An absolute massive one? Playing them every week, believing in them, improving them?
    I totally agree with that. My point is that they were already good players before he took us over. They already had their grounding of playing lots of senior games. Mowbray made them better but I still think he was lucky to have them there.

    Damn, absolutely everything is jumped upon on this forum at the moment

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    Hibs.netters were very much pro-Tony as I recall, revering him to hero like status based on what they saw on the park and his righteous rhetoric about upward spirals and winning more than you lose etc.

    We took issue with him only twice IIRC over our 'comedy defending' (scapegoat of choice: Chris Hogg) and our inability to sign a keeper.

    We disliked RP for failing to keep Craig Rocastle but overall, planet .net was a positive place to be in that era.

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    I remember speaking to Kevin Nicol about him a few months after he was appointed, he loved him and said the players did too.

    He liked the way he spoke to the players, he said that the training was top notch and they enjoyed the tactics he played in games.

    It's normally a good sign when players are that enthusiastic about a gaffer and tbh the players all appeared to be happy and enjoying themselves at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedway View Post
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    Hibs.netters were very much pro-Tony as I recall, revering him to hero like status based on what they saw on the park and his righteous rhetoric about upward spirals and winning more than you lose etc.

    We took issue with him only twice IIRC over our 'comedy defending' (scapegoat of choice: Chris Hogg) and our inability to sign a keeper.

    We disliked RP for failing to keep Craig Rocastle but overall, planet .net was a positive place to be in that era.
    Yeah even when we lost we normally had a go. Was a great time supporting the club. If only we could have signed a keeper and kept them all together for a bit longer.

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    He possibly got lucky with inheriting a youth team of good players covering the whole pitch. But his transfers to finish the team were excellent. The likes of Murphy, Jones, Benji, Hogg etc. Up there with Stubbs as my favourite Hibs managers.
    Other than his picking then extending the contract of Zubi...

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    Mowbray made every single one of the players we brought through a lot lot better. Each one says exactly the same. Then there was the likes of Boozy, Murphy, Jones, Benji, Zemmama and Killen all came in and done brilliantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottB View Post
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    Other than his picking then extending the contract of Zubi...
    Aye finding a half decent keeper seemed to be his achilles heel.

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    Aye finding a half decent keeper seemed to be his achilles heel.
    Allan McGregor was almost a done deal, had spoken with Mowbray & was keen to come on loan but then Zibi was taken on trial & TM preferred the long term option to get a settled keeper. Other than the GK situation, not much to criticise him on really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyS View Post
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    Allan McGregor was almost a done deal, had spoken with Mowbray & was keen to come on loan but then Zibi was taken on trial & TM preferred the long term option to get a settled keeper. Other than the GK situation, not much to criticise him on really.
    Something we never really managed to fix for years. Even won a Cup with Andy McNeil in goals. That guy must have been the shortest keeper we have had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barman Stanton View Post
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    Something we never really managed to fix for years. Even won a Cup with Andy McNeil in goals. That guy must have been the shortest keeper we have had.
    He also made one of the best, if not THE best save I've ever seen in person v. Falkirk after he came on as a sub for Makalamby who was a bit cold and didn't feel like playing.

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    Allan McGregor was almost a done deal, had spoken with Mowbray & was keen to come on loan but then Zibi was taken on trial & TM preferred the long term option to get a settled keeper. Other than the GK situation, not much to criticise him on really.
    Must have been around the time McGregor went to Dunfermline on loan. Was outstanding for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barman Stanton View Post
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    Something we never really managed to fix for years. Even won a Cup with Andy McNeil in goals. That guy must have been the shortest keeper we have had.
    It'll be either him or Goram I would have thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Must have been around the time McGregor went to Dunfermline on loan. Was outstanding for them.
    Went to St Johnstone instead of us mate, Dunfermline was the following year I think. He played for the Huns in between those spells and did well but McLeish signed Watterues that summer.
    Actually just checked and I think you were right, it was Dunfermline he went to that summer we took Zibi. Watterus was the reason though, McLeish chose him as 2nd choice behind Klos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyS View Post
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    It'll be either him or Goram I would have thought.
    Just checked and they are pretty much the same height. Just shows you, size isnt everything....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barman Stanton View Post
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    Just checked and they are pretty much the same height. Just shows you, size isnt everything....
    I'm forever telling the missus that!

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    For me the Golden Generation were mostly naturally gifted players. We had forwards like Riordan O'Connor and Fletcher. Midfielders like Brown and Thomson. These were always going to be good players. Plus they had played a lot of games under Williamson. Even had the experience of a Cup Final.

    So yeah I think Mowbray was lucky to inherit them. He filled all the gaps brilliantly (apart from a decent keeper) and turned us into a very good team.
    As much as I do agree with you the two in bold benefitted the most probably from Tony, O'Connor was a decently average bottom 6 centre forward who turned into a great player capable of going as far as he wanted under Mowbray. Not sure what it was but he seemed to get the best out of him.

    Brown was suffering a bit from playing in multiple positions, centre forward, winger, 10, centre mid. Before finally getting a nailed on role in midfield that could have only helped him be the player we've seen in the last 12 years.

    Mowbray was lucky to inherit a crop with talent, but the golden generation were lucky to get a manager that believed in youth and knew how to play to their strengths.

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