Longbangers Episode 11: Tesco Value Tam Cowan

***matty_f*** · 17-09-2019 10:03 PM

Longbangers Episode 11: Tesco Value Tam Cowan
✅ Killie loss reviewed
✅ Time up for Hecky?
✅ Things you’d rather
✅ P45 Derby preview
And more!

Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/620...S-OZeQdMwN9Rsw

iTunes:
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcas...s/id1474463560

***Pedantic_Hibee*** · 18-09-2019 08:38 AM

SPOILER - There is a rant.

**DaveF** · 18-09-2019 08:42 AM

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SPOILER - There is a rant.

There is indeed. And well justified.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 18-09-2019 09:24 AM

Just listening to the podcast and wondering why Lee and Brian think a “CDM” is so crucial? Maybe the others in the team need to do more?

1. Who was the “CDM” in the McGinn, McGeough and Allan midfield?
2. Who was CDM on 21/5/16?

**~~The_Horde~~** · 18-09-2019 09:27 AM

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Just listening to the podcast and wondering why Lee and Brian think a “CDM” is so crucial? Maybe the others in the team need to do more?

1. Who was the “CDM” in the McGinn, McGeough and Allan midfield?
2. Who was CDM on 21/5/16?

Actually agree. I think Pedantic calls it spot on when he says the role takes someone who can read the game in that position more than brute force.

Although brute force does have a place at times too.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 18-09-2019 09:47 AM

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Actually agree. I think Pedantic calls it spot on when he says the role takes someone who can read the game in that position more than brute force.

Although brute force does have a place at times too.

Absolutely - Sunday being the place for it.

**Edinburgh Green** · 18-09-2019 09:49 AM

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Just listening to the podcast and wondering why Lee and Brian think a “CDM” is so crucial? Maybe the others in the team need to do more?

1. Who was the “CDM” in the McGinn, McGeough and Allan midfield?
2. Who was CDM on 21/5/16?

I'd agree that a typical lCDM isn't as crucial as some folk are making out. One thing that you cannot go without is someone with a bit of drive and energy. someone who will chase and close down players when they don't have the ball and drive the team forward when they do have it.

In the 2 teams you mention, that player was McGinn, and at the tail end of the season it was Omeonga.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 18-09-2019 09:53 AM

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I'd agree that a typical lCDM isn't as crucial as some folk are making out. One thing that you cannot go without is someone with a bit of drive and energy. someone who will chase and close down players when they don't have the ball and drive the team forward when they do have it.

In the 2 teams you mention, that player was McGinn, and at the tail end of the season it was Omeonga.

my point is the others need to do some graft. I thought that’s what Vela was supposed to bring us (the McGinn effect).

**hibsbollah** · 18-09-2019 11:11 AM

Disagree with the point being made in the podcast that the Heckbot is a ****ing idiot because he didn't want to play with a CDM but a deep lying playmaker instead. No. That's a very valid and sensible tactical proposition. He's a ****ing idiot as far as I'm concerned because of who he's chosen to play IN that role, not the tactic itself.

Also, the chat about Liam Craig being a better left mid than Zemmama needs locked in a box, triple bolted, put in one of those Blue Peter garden 'open in 500 years' time capsules with a note attached saying this opinion is pure ***** and belongs to an individual who has just ingested a ketamine sandwich.

***Pedantic_Hibee*** · 18-09-2019 11:19 AM

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Disagree with the point being made in the podcast that the Heckbot is a ****ing idiot because he didn't want to play with a CDM but a deep lying playmaker instead. No. That's a very valid and sensible tactical proposition. He's a ****ing idiot as far as I'm concerned because of who he's chosen to play IN that role, not the tactic itself.

Also, the chat about Liam Craig being a better left mid than Zemmama needs locked in a box, triple bolted, put in one of those Blue Peter garden 'open in 500 years' time capsules with a note attached saying this opinion is pure ***** and belongs to an individual who has just ingested a ketamine sandwich.

Agree with that, Bollah. I just didn’t explain it well.

**hibsbollah** · 18-09-2019 11:45 AM

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Agree with that, Bollah. I just didn’t explain it well.

I do get your rage though

I actually think Allan would do that role pretty well. It's not far off how Stubbs had him playing in the championship when you think about it. It's definitely not where Stevie Mallan should be playing, anyway.

**snedzuk** · 18-09-2019 12:40 PM

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Absolutely - Sunday being the place for it.

Let's play Bartley- oh wait....

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 18-09-2019 12:49 PM

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Let's play Bartley- oh wait....

Mind you Lennon used to just play the 11 biggest players available when we went to Tiny and that never really worked.

**DaveF** · 18-09-2019 01:04 PM

Another good show. First time I've heard Lee and he was a very good addition despite his Liam Craig shout 😀

**~~The 90+2~~** · 18-09-2019 01:13 PM

Good show guys I agree with the most of it.

***matty_f*** · 18-09-2019 03:05 PM

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Disagree with the point being made in the podcast that the Heckbot is a ****ing idiot because he didn't want to play with a CDM but a deep lying playmaker instead. No. That's a very valid and sensible tactical proposition. He's a ****ing idiot as far as I'm concerned because of who he's chosen to play IN that role, not the tactic itself.

Also, the chat about Liam Craig being a better left mid than Zemmama needs locked in a box, triple bolted, put in one of those Blue Peter garden 'open in 500 years' time capsules with a note attached saying this opinion is pure ***** and belongs to an individual who has just ingested a ketamine sandwich.

I think Lee took us all by surprise with the Liam Craig comment.

***Lmc2105*** · 18-09-2019 04:09 PM

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I think Lee took us all by surprise with the Liam Craig comment.

Looks lads it was a piss take comment as I did eventually agree that Zememma was the stand out 😂😎

***Lmc2105*** · 18-09-2019 04:12 PM

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Another good show. First time I've heard Lee and he was a very good addition despite his Liam Craig shout 😀

Haha cheers Dave! Appreciated mate! Take the Liam Craig comment with a pinch of salt of course

***Oscar T Grouch*** · 18-09-2019 04:14 PM

Great podcast that makes me laugh, apart from the bad jokes at the start, they don’t make me laugh, at all, they’re bad, very bad.

**04Sauzee** · 18-09-2019 04:20 PM

Think matty_f could do a jokebook, stocking filler at xmas with procedes going to the community trust or similar 😁

***matty_f*** · 18-09-2019 04:33 PM

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Great podcast that makes me laugh, apart from the bad jokes at the start, they don’t make me laugh, at all, they’re bad, very bad.

they get the podcast going though!

***matty_f*** · 18-09-2019 04:34 PM

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Think matty_f could do a jokebook, stocking filler at xmas with procedes going to the community trust or similar 😁

I think we’d end up costing the foundation money, to be honest.

***Lmc2105*** · 18-09-2019 05:08 PM

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Think matty_f could do a jokebook, stocking filler at xmas with procedes going to the community trust or similar 😁

Please don’t encourage this he sees it as a future career 😂

**DaveF** · 18-09-2019 05:12 PM

I'm loving pedantics negativity. Music to my miserable ears 😁

**~~The 90+2~~** · 18-09-2019 05:20 PM

Melting Johns been used all over the place 😂😂

***Pedantic_Hibee*** · 18-09-2019 06:01 PM

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I'm loving pedantics negativity. Music to my miserable ears 😁

I’m listening to it just now and I’m actually depressing myself listening to me. Sakes 😩

***Pedantic_Hibee*** · 18-09-2019 06:01 PM

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Melting Johns been used all over the place 😂😂

That’s the winner 😂😂

***bingo70*** · 18-09-2019 06:07 PM

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I’m listening to it just now and I’m actually depressing myself listening to me. Sakes 😩

FWIW I thought your rant was spot on.

As for the defensive midfielder or holding midfielder argument, we should have both.

There’s times we need a defensive midfielder and theres times we want to be playing on the front foot all the time, it’s a squad game now so it shouldn’t be one or the other in the squad.