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***Aldo*** · 18-09-2019 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by JohnMcM

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I hope that we go two up front. We are at home and they are as bad, if not worse than us at the moment.

We can be sure they will be up for it and will try to physically dominate. Two up front for us takes at least 3 at them at the back to cover them if, and when, we have the ball in the middle.

Their long diagonal ball and their normal "punts" from the back often takes our midfield out of the game for periods, so, maybe two up front presents the chance of SA having a free role behind them, maybe forcing 4 of them deep, taking pressure of our middle?

No tactical expert, and expect pelters for being optimistic.

Nope agree. Flo and Doidge for me with Scott Allan I’m behind in a 3 with Mallan dropping to bench.

My team early gives us balance

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***erin go bragh*** · 18-09-2019 03:51 PM

Marciano

Naismith
Porto
Jackson
Stevenson

James

Halberg
Allan
Vella

Kamberi
Doidge

***Jones28*** · 18-09-2019 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by GoalsMcGinley

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Can’t believe how many people have Horgan in their team

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His good days are good but very rare. His bad days are atrocious.

***bingo70*** · 18-09-2019 05:42 PM

Rocky

Porteous
Jackson
Hanlon

Naismith
Hallberg
Whittaker
Allan
Stevenson

Vela

Kamberi

I don’t think it’ll happen and I’m sure not many will agree but for me Whittaker should start in midfield. It says a lot about where we are as a team just now but he’s the only one that can play the defensive midfield role. I also think it’s worth playing Vela slightly more advanced, think he played the number 10 role quite well for Bolton, him and Allan swapping positions could cause them problems in different ways I think.

**Since452** · 18-09-2019 05:46 PM

I don't think Marciano is helping the defence one bit. Too easily beaten and just gives the ball back to the opposition far too often. Think Maxwell deserves a chance in goals but maybe should have been the Killie game so he was up to speed for the derby. Wish we still had Bogdan.

***500miles*** · 18-09-2019 06:09 PM

I'm going to make the Horgan/Kent comparison again.

Horgan 7 goals and 10 assists last season.
(goal or assist every 154 minutes over 39 appearances)
Kent 6 goals and 10 assists last season. (goal or assist every 215 minutes over 43 appearances)

Got some moaning about lower league teams being involved in hHorgan's tally earlier. Even only taking top league into account, Horgan had a goal /assist every 205 mins to Kents 173. Hardly a world of difference, especially given the greater volume of chances Kent will get at Rangers.

**DTS** · 18-09-2019 06:46 PM

What I’d like to see is:

Marciano

Jackson
Porto
Hanlon

Naismith
Slivka/mallan/vela (literally do the exact same
Job)
Hallberg
Allan
Stevenson

Kamberi
Doidge/shaw

That would leave Horgan Middleton 2 of mallan/slivka/Vella shaw and hopefully F Murray on the bench, plenty of options.

Don’t think that’s what we will see though be another strange selection. I thought the tight 3 with Allan and Horgan sort of free roles kind of worked and would be against seeing it again but with mallan and Horgan dropped for Murray and potentially Slivka or James.

The only thing I know is Fraser Murray after Scott Allan is our best attacking midfielder and needs to be at worst on the bench

**~~The_Horde~~** · 18-09-2019 07:13 PM

In the interest of getting as many characters into the side as possible I'd probably go for something like this.

Rocky

Nais Porto Hanlon Stevenson

Whittaker Hallberg

Middleton Allan Mallan

Kamberi

Wingers have been terrible so the 3 in behind the striker are attacking midfielders and they can rotate or drop deep if they want, whilst Mallan and Middleton both have the ability to hit a ball.

Middleton can pull wide and use his pace or try and go in behind if he wants. Murray could play there too I guess.

**B.H.F.C** · 18-09-2019 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by 500miles

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I'm going to make the Horgan/Kent comparison again.

Horgan 7 goals and 10 assists last season.
(goal or assist every 154 minutes over 39 appearances)
Kent 6 goals and 10 assists last season. (goal or assist every 215 minutes over 43 appearances)

Got some moaning about lower league teams being involved in hHorgan's tally earlier. Even only taking top league into account, Horgan had a goal /assist every 205 mins to Kents 173. Hardly a world of difference, especially given the greater volume of chances Kent will get at Rangers.

Always been a fan of Horgan but, lately, he’s been absolutely woeful.

Last week at Killie he had a good shot early on then proceeded to play the ball out the park the next 15 times he had it.

**kinni35** · 19-09-2019 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by we are hibs

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Marciano

Naismith
Jackson
Porteous
Stevenson

James

Vela
Hallberg
Allan

Kamberi
Doidge

no width tho

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**we are hibs** · 19-09-2019 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by kinni35

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no width tho

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Because our wingers are in poor form and offering very little. We should flood the midfield and try and outnumber them. Theyre going to have the better of us physically in there so have more midfielders and hope they can plug gaps and win 2nd balls rather than the massive gaps that keep appearing in our midfield when the opposition have the ball.

**FilipinoHibs** · 19-09-2019 07:58 AM

Please don't play Whitaker. He has no pace and gets walked past.

Same team as last week started with Slivka in for Mallan.

***danhibees1875*** · 19-09-2019 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by The young one

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What I’d like to see is:

Marciano

Jackson
Porto
Hanlon

Naismith
Slivka/mallan/vela (literally do the exact same
Job)
Hallberg
Allan
Stevenson

Kamberi
Doidge/shaw

That would leave Horgan Middleton 2 of mallan/slivka/Vella shaw and hopefully F Murray on the bench, plenty of options.

Don’t think that’s what we will see though be another strange selection. I thought the tight 3 with Allan and Horgan sort of free roles kind of worked and would be against seeing it again but with mallan and Horgan dropped for Murray and potentially Slivka or James.

The only thing I know is Fraser Murray after Scott Allan is our best attacking midfielder and needs to be at worst on the bench

I'd agree with all of that. Hopefully F Murray works his way back into the team - he was looking good I thought. Can get the ball down and going forward.

There's maybe also a midfield role for Whittaker, but that's maybe less required with a 5-3-2.

I probably wouldn't play Mallan out of those options though as he'd be getting asked to sit the deepest which I think would suit Vela better.

***yerauldda*** · 19-09-2019 09:31 AM

Really can't see us going 5-3-2, but:

Marciano
Naismith Jackson Porteous Hanlon Stevenson
Allan Vela Hallberg
Kamberi Middleton

Subs:
Maxwell
McGregor
Doidge
Shaw
James
Horgan
Mallan

I reckon he will go:

Marciano
Naismith Porteous Hanlon Stevenson
Horgan Vela Mallan Allan
Kamberi Doidge

**Onceinawhile** · 19-09-2019 10:18 AM

Rocky

Lewis
Hanlon
Porto
Naismith

Hallberg
Mallan
Allan

Horgan
Kamberi
Middleton

**Daydreamer** · 19-09-2019 11:13 AM

Marciano

Porteous
Jackson
Hanlon

Naismith
Vela
Hallberg
Stevenson

Allan

Doidge
Kamberi

No stupid team selections like James or Whittaker in midfield. Play to OUR strengths.

***sleeping giant*** · 19-09-2019 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Onceinawhile

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Rocky

Lewis
Hanlon
Porto
Naismith

Hallberg
Mallan
Allan

Horgan
Kamberi
Middleton

Have we just guven up on having a midfield completely?

**Mr_F** · 19-09-2019 11:56 AM

We NEED to play 2 up top, they are horrendous at the back. Not being bullied in the middle & exposed down the wings is vital too.

Rocky

Porto Jackson Hanlon

Naismith Hallberg Allan Whitty Stevenson

Kamberi Shaw/Doidge/Horgan/Middleton

**JDHibs** · 19-09-2019 12:00 PM

Team i want (3412) -

Rocky

Porto
Jackson
Hanlon

Naismith
Vela
Hallberg
Stevenson

Allan

Doidge
Kamberi

Team we will get -

Rocky

Naismith
Porto
Hanlon
Stevenson

Mallan
Vela
Hallberg

Horgan
Kamberi
Allan

**biotech** · 19-09-2019 12:18 PM

Feel we need two upfront. Kamberi is largely ineffective on his own. Maybe we need to try someone through the middle who has pace and can get at Hearts lumbering centre backs. Could Horgan play as central striker?

***Heisenberg*** · 19-09-2019 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by biotech

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Feel we need two upfront. Kamberi is largely ineffective on his own. Maybe we need to try someone through the middle who has pace and can get at Hearts lumbering centre backs. Could Horgan play as central striker?

No. He’s a winger. Everyone seems to have written of Doidge but he’s only started one league game I think? He needs a proper run in the side instead of 20 minutes here and there.

3-5-2 is the way forward but there’s no chance we’ll see it.

***bingo70*** · 19-09-2019 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by biotech

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Feel we need two upfront. Kamberi is largely ineffective on his own. Maybe we need to try someone through the middle who has pace and can get at Hearts lumbering centre backs. Could Horgan play as central striker?

Josh Vela was apparently a decent no 10 for Bolton for a season. With nothing else working just now i wonder if it could be an idea to try him there. Could help link midfield and attack as well.

**KWJ** · 19-09-2019 12:35 PM

---------------Rocky-------------

Whittaker--Porto-Hanlon---Lewis

----------Slivka---Hallberg----------

------Mallan---Allan---Horgan-----

-----------------Flo----------------

And I have to say I really don't like it. Not seen enough of Mellberg so if he can't tackle stick in Vela. I think we need to get Mallan, Allan, Horgan and Flo all on the pitch though with Middleton coming on once the game is stretched.

Our squad is really not very good with glaring holes. I'd be tempted to put Whittaker into midfield if I thought he still had the legs for it.

**Mr_F** · 19-09-2019 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by KWJ

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---------------Rocky-------------

Whittaker--Porto-Hanlon---Lewis

----------Slivka---Hallberg----------

------Mallan---Allan---Horgan-----

-----------------Flo----------------

And I have to say I really don't like it. Not seen enough of Mellberg so if he can't tackle stick in Vela. I think we need to get Mallan, Allan, Horgan and Flo all on the pitch though with Middleton coming on once the game is stretched.

Our squad is really not very good with glaring holes. I'd be tempted to put Whittaker into midfield if I thought he still had the legs for it.

Why Mallan?

That team would get destroyed down the wings against them

***J-C*** · 19-09-2019 01:51 PM

Jeez, just looking at this thread shows our squad is so imbalanced and no one has a clue what way to play the players we have, it's actually pretty scary what's happened to our club.

This is what I'd go.

Rocky

Naismith
Porteous
Hanlon
Stevenson

Hallberg
Mallan

Murray
Allan
Middleton

Kamberi

**Dav1986** · 19-09-2019 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by The_Horde

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In the interest of getting as many characters into the side as possible I'd probably go for something like this.

Rocky

Nais Porto Hanlon Stevenson

Whittaker Hallberg

Middleton Allan Mallan

Kamberi

Wingers have been terrible so the 3 in behind the striker are attacking midfielders and they can rotate or drop deep if they want, whilst Mallan and Middleton both have the ability to hit a ball.

Middleton can pull wide and use his pace or try and go in behind if he wants. Murray could play there too I guess.

I'd go along the lines of this team if we aren't playing 2 up top. Possibly switching Slivka in for Whittaker and maybe Fraser Murray for Mallan as I feel Mallan hasn't been at it for a few weeks (not many have tbf) but if he isn't getting any goals or assists, for me he doesn't contribute enough.

**B.H.F.C** · 19-09-2019 02:17 PM

I’m not a great fan of 352 but something has to change.

Marciano

Jackson
Porteous
Hanlon

Naismith
Hallberg
Allan
Slivka
Stevenson

Kamberi
Doidge

That team looks pretty crap. I wouldn’t play Hanlon but I think we have to. I wouldn’t play Slivka as I think he often contributes nothing but Vela is competing for that title well. And I wouldn’t really want to play Doidge but it gets us two up front.