Vegetarianism/Veganism

[lapsedhibee]

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One of my favourites is Alex Baldwin who was the voice on this......

Warning not for minors or squeamish.

https://youtu.be/ykTH_b-cXyE

BIG G

Interesting vid, ta. Does much of it reflect current practice in the UK, or EU?

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someone working 17 years a day for pennies

Copyright 4 Yorkshiremen

[Colr]

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Not a vegan , but those I know don’t wear wool - Or any animal products ...

It used to be really tough doing that but there seems to be a growing market catering for it. Vegan shoes are quite easy to get hold off for example. DMs do them.

[Pretty Boy]

I wonder what the opinions on this thread would have looked like even 5 or 10 years ago?

The cultural shift in attitudes towards vegetarianism and veganism has been huge. You only have to look at the far greater range of veggie options available now when compared to the very recent past.

[bigwheel]

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It used to be really tough doing that but there seems to be a growing market catering for it. Vegan shoes are quite easy to get hold off for example. DMs do them.

Yep. Getting easier to buy birthday and Xmas gifts - used to be hard work !

[bigwheel]

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I wonder what the opinions on this thread would have looked like even 5 or 10 years ago?

The cultural shift in attitudes towards vegetarianism and veganism has been huge. You only have to look at the far greater range of veggie options available now when compared to the very recent past.

It’s true. Much much better - a big shift in choices and quality ....still surprising though that a number of food places only have one (or no) veggie options ...sometimes you don’t fancy (for example) goats cheese...

A few veggie / vegan options are much more helpful and interesting...

[Smartie]

Maybe I'm being dim but why would anyone have an issue with wool?

If a sheep lives a good life (outside, able to wander free, munch what it wants, some protection from wild predators) but has its coat cut off once a year after it no longer needs it so that can be used by a human, where is the problem?

I'd have thought this would be very different to animals whose very existence is to live for slaughter, or to have their reproductive functions messed about with to provide eggs, milk and various other products.


As an aside, I wonder how much impact this thread is having on folk? I raised the question with my Mrs yesterday and she said she thought it was a subject I'd never raise. We're unlikely to go full veggie, but we've vowed to cut down our meat intake to a minimum, eat more fish and have a certain number of veggie meals a week.

One of the main drivers for me is that I have an adorable 18 month old daughter. She loves to eat chicken, and she has a little squirty chicken toy for the bath that she loves. Somewhere down the line we're going to have to have a conversation about "chicken" and how the "chicken" comes from the "chicken", and it doesn't sit all that comfortably with me at all.

[lord bunberry]

I’m delighted to see this thread as I decided to go vegan last week. I’ve stocked up on all the things I need and I’m starting today. I’ve decided to do it for health reasons, I suffer from psoriasis and I’ve read that a vegan diet is a good way to combat it. It seems to have lots of other health benefits as well. Tonight’s first meal is mushroom and potato curry from the bbc good food site and tomorrow it’s vegan chilli. It’s going to take a bit more time preparing meals than before, but I’m hoping it’s going to be worth it.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Maybe I'm being dim but why would anyone have an issue with wool?

If a sheep lives a good life (outside, able to wander free, munch what it wants, some protection from wild predators) but has its coat cut off once a year after it no longer needs it so that can be used by a human, where is the problem?

I'd have thought this would be very different to animals whose very existence is to live for slaughter, or to have their reproductive functions messed about with to provide eggs, milk and various other products.


As an aside, I wonder how much impact this thread is having on folk? I raised the question with my Mrs yesterday and she said she thought it was a subject I'd never raise. We're unlikely to go full veggie, but we've vowed to cut down our meat intake to a minimum, eat more fish and have a certain number of veggie meals a week.

One of the main drivers for me is that I have an adorable 18 month old daughter. She loves to eat chicken, and she has a little squirty chicken toy for the bath that she loves. Somewhere down the line we're going to have to have a conversation about "chicken" and how the "chicken" comes from the "chicken", and it doesn't sit all that comfortably with me at all.

Wool is more of a by-product of meat production than an end in itself, certainly in this country. When the sheep are deemed non-productive, ie. not likely to produce healthy lambs (the males of which will be slaughtered for lamb within a year), it's off to the slaughterhouse (and into the pies).

[Cataplana]

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Aye at £12 - £15 a pop that one is a joke.

There are some really good substitutes though. I love veggie haggis and veggie black pudding. Tasty food with none of the ***** in it!

Where can you get the black pudding. I enjoy a veg Lorne sausage and it would go well with that I think.

[bigwheel]

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Maybe I'm being dim but why would anyone have an issue with wool?

If a sheep lives a good life (outside, able to wander free, munch what it wants, some protection from wild predators) but has its coat cut off once a year after it no longer needs it so that can be used by a human, where is the problem?

I'd have thought this would be very different to animals whose very existence is to live for slaughter, or to have their reproductive functions messed about with to provide eggs, milk and various other products.


As an aside, I wonder how much impact this thread is having on folk? I raised the question with my Mrs yesterday and she said she thought it was a subject I'd never raise. We're unlikely to go full veggie, but we've vowed to cut down our meat intake to a minimum, eat more fish and have a certain number of veggie meals a week.

One of the main drivers for me is that I have an adorable 18 month old daughter. She loves to eat chicken, and she has a little squirty chicken toy for the bath that she loves. Somewhere down the line we're going to have to have a conversation about "chicken" and how the "chicken" comes from the "chicken", and it doesn't sit all that comfortably with me at all.

Some of the farming practicing are viewed as barbaric by Vegans

https://www.peta.org/living/personal...ts-wrong-wool/


It’s similar reason why they don’t eat Honey...upsets the animals ....

[lord bunberry]

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Where can you get the black pudding. I enjoy a veg Lorne sausage and it would go well with that I think.

I’d like to know that as well, also where do you get the vegan Lorne?

[Cataplana]

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I’d like to know that as well, also where do you get the vegan Lorne?

Must confess, I've got a problem finding that too! I've had it in hotels, and in cafes, but haven't found a supermarket that stocks it yet.

It's fantastic on a roll.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Vegetable moussaka with steamed rice tonight.

Tomorrow I'll be wearing a meat is murder t-shirt . I'm going baw deep; let's see if it can last.

The ethical implications in relation to eggs, raised by Big G, is a very good point. I might have to stop eating eggs too.

[bigwheel]

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I’d like to know that as well, also where do you get the vegan Lorne?

Used to get it in Aldi and Morrison’s - made by Simon Howie. Not looked for a while ..

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Used to get it in Aldi and Morrison’s - made by Simon Howie. Not looked for a while ..

Is that the black pudding?

[bigwheel]

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Is that the black pudding?

No mate. The Lorne. Never seen the black pudding ...

[Colr]

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Where can you get the black pudding. I enjoy a veg Lorne sausage and it would go well with that I think.

Where can you get veggie lorne sausage?

EDIT: Aaah, I see!!

[Bishop Hibee]

Like many on here I've cut down my meat consumption in the last few years. Easier now that I'm living on my own half the time. I probably have 3-4 non-meat evening meals a week. Veggie stir fries and curries are great. Pretty much the only red meat I eat is from the local butchers and I've started getting into buying more organic meat again from Leith Market on a Saturday. The only way I'd ever give meat up is if it was prohibitively expensive or was made illegal though.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just bought a vegetarian cookbook online. Perhaps cooking will become something of a new hobby.

[Jones28]

There’s such an interesting range of reasons to become veggie, vegan is a step too far imo.

I’m involved in farming and we still try to go veggie at least twice a week.

What I will say is that for those of you who still want to eat meat, ensuring you buy Scotch assured meats means as high a welfare standards are followed as possible. Unfortunately there will always be stories in the media about sickos who get a kick out of torturing and hurting animals, but the farmers I know produce great products while ensuring their animals are treated as well as is possible.

[Antifa Hibs]

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Where can you get veggie lorne sausage?

EDIT: Aaah, I see!!

Was in Sainsbury's there at lunch and they had Simon Howwie veggie lorne. £1.49 for three slices i think it was.

[lord bunberry]

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Was in Sainsbury's there at lunch and they had Simon Howwie veggie lorne. £1.49 for three slices i think it was.

Thanks. Sainsbury’s seem to do more vegan stuff than the other supermarkets. I had the vegan chilli from the bbc good food website tonight. It was delicious, but it didn’t taste much like normal chilli. Tomorrow I’m making spinach, sweet potato and lentil dahl. I’m enjoying cooking again.

[Hibernia&Alba]

A very simple ensemble tonight of hummus with flat bread, green olives and feta cheese.

The Mrs had bacon. I was drooling like a starving dug watching her.

[Iain G]

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Just bought a vegetarian cookbook online. Perhaps cooking will become something of a new hobby.

Got a very good veggie Indian cookbook and have found sound very good and tasty recipies (if a bit hipster) in any of Ella Woodward's books.

[Colr]

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Got a very good veggie Indian cookbook and have found sound very good and tasty recipies (if a bit hipster) in any of Ella Woodward's books.

Indian’s always got good veggie options.

If you can still get it Madhur Jaffrey’s “Eastern Vegetarian Cooking” is really good and casts its net a bit wider still.

[GORDONSMITH7]

Spoke with the sales manager of Simon Howie regarding Vegan items in Edinburgh. Square sausage going to be sold in Tesco who sell haggis and wee haggis already, haggis with truffle in Aldi soon and by the end of this month the breakfast pack, 2x sausage, 2x square sausage and 2x haggis, in Morrisons.
Simon Howie V haggis beats Macsween's V haggis hands down in my opinion.

BIG G

[Colr]

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Spoke with the sales manager of Simon Howie regarding Vegan items in Edinburgh. Square sausage going to be sold in Tesco who sell haggis and wee haggis already, haggis with truffle in Aldi soon and by the end of this month the breakfast pack, 2x sausage, 2x square sausage and 2x haggis, in Morrisons.
Simon Howie V haggis beats Macsween's V haggis hands down in my opinion.

BIG G

That just in Scotland?

[GORDONSMITH7]

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That just in Scotland?

I would have thought so.

BIG G

[GORDONSMITH7]

This site may be of interest to some.

https://veganedinburgh.com/

BIG G

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Spoke with the sales manager of Simon Howie regarding Vegan items in Edinburgh. Square sausage going to be sold in Tesco who sell haggis and wee haggis already, haggis with truffle in Aldi soon and by the end of this month the breakfast pack, 2x sausage, 2x square sausage and 2x haggis, in Morrisons.
Simon Howie V haggis beats Macsween's V haggis hands down in my opinion.

BIG G

Any mention of black pudding, big man?