Heckingbottom - stay or go

[Diclonius]

As those with the strongest views on here tend to shout loudest, let's see what the board thinks as a whole.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Stay for now, but improvement needed in forthcoming games.

[The Harp Awakes]

In normal circumstances a Manager should be given more time to build a team and prove his worth.

However, have to say I'm seriously worried this is another Calderwood like appointment; no passion, nous or proven Managerial experience to turn things around.

Ian Cathroesque.

[Onion]

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In normal circumstances a Manager should be given more time to build a team and prove his worth.

However, have to say I'm seriously worried this is another Calderwood like appointment; no passion, nous or proven Managerial experience to turn things around.

Ian Cathroesque.

My thoughts exactly.

[BILLYHIBS]

Only week 3 guys

At least give him the first round of fixtures

See how far he takes us in the League Cup

Let’s see where we are at when the window slams shut on 2/9/2019

Hopefully no more English second division players I am done with them

I am a half full kinda guy but must admit starting to feel half empty

He stays for now

[Squirrel 1875]

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Only week 3 guys

At least give him the first round of fixtures

See how far he takes us in the League Cup

Let’s see where we are at when the window slams shut on 2/9/2019

Hopefully no more English second division players I am done with them

I am a half full kinda guy but must admit starting to feel half empty

He stays for now

It isn’t week 3. 10 points in last 30. Depressing performances. Time to go.

[Sir David Gray]

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Only week 3 guys

At least give him the first round of fixtures

See how far he takes us in the League Cup

Let’s see where we are at when the window slams shut on 2/9/2019

Hopefully no more English second division players I am done with them

I am a half full kinda guy but must admit starting to feel half empty

He stays for now

Except it's not week 3, he has been in the job for over 6 months.

He has a 50% win rate so far (11 wins from 22 games) which is decent however since the split last season things have deteriorated. We are currently on a run of 1 win from our last 8 league games, stretching back to the win at Tynecastle. We scraped past a Championship team in the League Cup last week and were taken to penalties against what is currently the worst team in the SPFL in our opening League Cup match.

Also that win at Tynecastle (as enjoyable as it was) is our only win in 10 attempts against last season's top 6 teams since Heckingbottom took over.

[Hermit Crab]

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Only week 3 guys

At least give him the first round of fixtures

See how far he takes us in the League Cup

Let’s see where we are at when the window slams shut on 2/9/2019

Hopefully no more English second division players I am done with them

I am a half full kinda guy but must admit starting to feel half empty

He stays for now

What about the end of last season?

[PapillonVert]

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Stay for now, but improvement needed in forthcoming comes.

This. Believe in giving everyone a reasonable shout but defence especially needs to tighten up. Don't want to go back to those days when we got a one goal lead and spent at least half the game desperately hanging on and falling further and further back trying to defend the lead only to be thwarted at the last gasp.

If we have aspirations for top six (dare I say top three or four?), we need to be winning our home games against the likes of St. J. reasonably comfortably.

No disrespect to the Saints BTW - my maternal granny's family was from Perthshire and so have always had a soft spot for them. Was told we had a family member who was a captain for them way back - don't know if it's true or not.

[Man Down Under]

Early days yet, I wouldn't say the start of the season has been a disaster. Alot of new players still need to gel, there's moments of great play but it's not consistent enough. Not unusual for the start of a season though. Defo a few more games before I get worried, but I'd probably considered a happy clapper.

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[HappyAsHellas]

If you get a new job you normally have a 3 month trial period. Hecky done well when he first came in but this season it's his team, and although I'm losing patience on an ever quickening scale I'll give him another month or so to turn it round.

[Dr Jimmy]

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If you get a new job you normally have a 3 month trial period. Hecky done well when he first came in but this season it's his team, and although I'm losing patience on an ever quickening scale I'll give him another month or so to turn it round.

Is it his team or has he given up on some of his signings already? He has brought in 9 players (1 awaiting clearance, another injured). Yesterday he used a 14 players in the game. 10 of whom were signed before he arrive (inc Sotty A). He has not improved any player, (think Boyle and Lennon) in fact he has made good players look bang average.
The keeper has clearly been told to kick everything, as we no longer build from the back and nobody is looking to take it. We play with no width, despite bringing in 2 wide players. He leaves nobody up front when we are defending corners.....at home v bottom 6 teams.
He plays Allan on the right of midfield when everyone knows he should be in the middle, preferably in a more forward role. Yesterday he subs Allan and pushes Vella into that role!!!!!
This has Calderwood all over it. GET RID NOW!!

[SideBurns]

My head says he should get more time, but my heart says go.

[Halmyre Hibee]

Hecky seems a reasonable guy and talks a good game but it's a results based business and they have been bang average to say the least.
The style of football is pedestrian and the players in my opinion appear to be overcoached, playing out of position or without confidence.
There is a general malaise about the place just now and the fans are voicing their displeasure and this is also affecting the players.
The buck stops with the board / owner and if this continues the team will struggle to get in top 6 / crowds will drop and we will be in another transition period (sick and tired of one step forward / 2 steps back).
If we leave it too late we will be out of the Cup and in the bottom 6 and when there is no confidence / fight in the team as we have seen in the past we might even be heading for the Championship.
If I was in charge I would get rid off now and bring in Gary Holt (Livingston Manager) who appears to get the best out of players at a budget far lower than ours.

Verdict : out now

[GreenCastle]

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Hecky seems a reasonable guy and talks a good game but it's a results based business and they have been bang average to say the least.
The style of football is pedestrian and the players in my opinion appear to be overcoached, playing out of position or without confidence.
There is a general malaise about the place just now and the fans are voicing their displeasure and this is also affecting the players.
The buck stops with the board / owner and if this continues the team will struggle to get in top 6 / crowds will drop and we will be in another transition period (sick and tired of one step forward / 2 steps back).
If we leave it too late we will be out of the Cup and in the bottom 6 and when there is no confidence / fight in the team as we have seen in the past we might even be heading for the Championship.
If I was in charge I would get rid off now and bring in Gary Holt (Livingston Manager) who appears to get the best out of players at a budget far lower than ours.

Verdict : out now

Agreed.

I have given him a chance but the most glaring obvious issue is the midfield and lack of players who can turn the ball / have high energy.

We don’t have midfielders who are getting on the ball to build attacks - it’s try and hit strikers early for flicks around the corner.

Defensively our back 5 will keep losing goals as they have zero protection in front.

Allan / Mallan need someone who does he dirty work.

Vela isn’t that player.

Allan and Mallan possibly can’t even play in same team as they both want to be the star. Both aren’t luxury players which isn’t a bad thing but you need legs and energy in there for them to be a success.

Mallan player of season last year with goals and assists is now playing deep.

Allan who has goals and assists this season was putting right back for parts of yesterday’s game!

Gray and Stevenson aren’t fit and have been rushed back as we are desperate.

Fraser Murray has been playing well but no where to be seen.

Back to basics for me..sign 2 players who can win the ball back and play players in their position - plus try and make more than 5 passes than missing it midfield - basically let the reigns off as the players looked over coached and not enjoying playing.

[we are hibs]

Go. Everything he keeps telling us is a complete contradiction to what we see on the park. I dont see us improving under him so i dont see why we should waste time by clinging onto some faint hope that he will turn it around and let half of another season go to waste. Make the change now.

[emerald green]

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Hecky seems a reasonable guy and talks a good game but it's a results based business and they have been bang average to say the least.
The style of football is pedestrian and the players in my opinion appear to be overcoached, playing out of position or without confidence.
There is a general malaise about the place just now and the fans are voicing their displeasure and this is also affecting the players.
The buck stops with the board / owner and if this continues the team will struggle to get in top 6 / crowds will drop and we will be in another transition period (sick and tired of one step forward / 2 steps back).
If we leave it too late we will be out of the Cup and in the bottom 6 and when there is no confidence / fight in the team as we have seen in the past we might even be heading for the Championship.
If I was in charge I would get rid off now and bring in Gary Holt (Livingston Manager) who appears to get the best out of players at a budget far lower than ours.

Verdict : out now

I agree with most of this. Not sure about Gary Holt though.

[InchHibby]

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Hecky seems a reasonable guy and talks a good game but it's a results based business and they have been bang average to say the least.
The style of football is pedestrian and the players in my opinion appear to be overcoached, playing out of position or without confidence.
There is a general malaise about the place just now and the fans are voicing their displeasure and this is also affecting the players.
The buck stops with the board / owner and if this continues the team will struggle to get in top 6 / crowds will drop and we will be in another transition period (sick and tired of one step forward / 2 steps back).
If we leave it too late we will be out of the Cup and in the bottom 6 and when there is no confidence / fight in the team as we have seen in the past we might even be heading for the Championship.
If I was in charge I would get rid off now and bring in Gary Holt (Livingston Manager) who appears to get the best out of players at a budget far lower than ours.

Verdict : out now

Agree totally

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[sauzeelegod]

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[HibbySpurs]

Stay for now....

Think the next run of games are crucial for him to turn it around.

Four league games between now and end of September. Motherwell, Killie away, Hearts & Celtic at home and a LC QF against Killie.

For me he needs to take 7+ points from 12 and progress in the LC or he’s a lame duck and won’t last thru October.

I hope he gets it right but I have massive concerns after watching that yesterday.

[Captain Trips]

Stay but he has to take responsibility for his selections and set up which I think have been poor.

There is no excuses.

[Captain Trips]

It's really going to be down to the walk up support as they will boost the crowd or not. If a big amount decide not enjoying it then PH will be in the office for a chat.

[Robbo6-2]

His development of our young players is another concerning part.

Shaw gone backwards and hardley given a chance. When he does its slung out wide right. Then slagged off in the press for wanting to get out and play.
Murray not in squad yesterday after a really good display vs Morton. Murray is a brilliant young footballer who needs to be involved.
Mackie hung out to dry at ibrox and never given a proper chance.

[GreenCastle]

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His development of our young players is another concerning part.

Shaw gone backwards and hardley given a chance. When he does its slung out wide right. Then slagged off in the press for wanting to get out and play.
Murray not in squad yesterday after a really good display vs Morton. Murray is a brilliant young footballer who needs to be involved.
Mackie hung out to dry at ibrox and never given a proper chance.

Interesting point.

There is also the issue these signings are his players on decent money and long contracts so he will play them over younger players even if the younger players are better.

I’ve questioned the lack of decent youths coming through but at I would rather watch some of them then someone over paid being comfortable.

We have been here before and there are serious warning signs hence why the support is being so vocal.

[Brooster]

Go.....its glaringly obvious how this is all going to end. I blame him for not getting 3 points yesterday which was a really bad result.

[Pretty Boy]

Head says stay. Just.

Heart and gut say go.

It's irrelevant because there is no way Hibs will act any time soon.

[007]

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Head says stay. Just.

Heart and gut say go.

It's irrelevant because there is no way Hibs will act any time soon.

And rightly so.

Sacking managers this soon after their 1st transfer window and that has only lost 1 game this season (regardless who the opposition has been) would send out a very negative message to any prospective future managers. If we become known as a club with a high turnover of managers then we can't expect to get a decent standard of manager applying. Many will think it isn't worth the risk and would rather have a longer gap on their CV than "sacked 3 league games into the season" on it.

[Heisenberg]

We’ve turned into quite a timid wee side again. We’ve got nothing about us. The manager went on about signing the right person as well as the right player but that’s obviously gone badly for him. We are powderpuff as ****.

[Pete]

Stay. Let’s get behind the team👍🏼