Quarter final in the cup
League W1 D1 L1
Hardly statistics for a sacking is it?
Just trying to inject a little realism to those slagging PH and players.
We need to support this team.
I agree things could be better, but this constant hounding is getting really tiring. I see signs of players settling, like Doidge, Jackson and Vela. Kamberi back to his best.
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24-08-2019 10:59 PM #1
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Quarter Final Cup and lost once in league!
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24-08-2019 11:03 PM #2
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We have been battered by St Johnstone today, completely played off the park. Rangers blew us away. Morton and ST Mirren more than matched us. 1 win in our last 8 league games. We have been slow, midfield non existent at times and Hecky has made some mental decisions (Allan out wide today, going 2 up front with 10 men at Ibrox) and just generally been a very tough watch. We have the players to be a good attacking side, we are right to be questioning Heckingbottom.
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24-08-2019 11:05 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
St Mirren, we deserved to win.
The draw today, we robbed a point. Second best all over the park.
The loss, well it doesn’t even need any further comment.
Whether it’s right or not the majority are now turning or have turned against the manager. He’s going to need to start sorting our performances soon or he’ll be out of a job.
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25-08-2019 07:05 AM #4
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25-08-2019 07:09 AM #5
Do people think he is all of a sudden going to change his whole approach to when we play celtic and rangers if we make the semis? Because we will most likely play either if we make it to the semis/final. We would be on a hiding to nothing with the way he sets us up against both.
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25-08-2019 07:15 AM #6
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Hopefully it’s a rough spell and the manager turns the performances around. The tough thing is trying to improve under the stress of a critical and unhappy crowd. I think the crowd anxiety transmitted to the team on the pitch which is our bad.
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25-08-2019 07:18 AM #8
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But whatever he does there will be people on here who know better.
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25-08-2019 07:20 AM #9
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I think your in the minority wanting him to stay.
He will drive fans away - crowd already down by 1000 yesterday
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25-08-2019 07:21 AM #10
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25-08-2019 07:29 AM #11
Any non-ST holder would be bonkers to come along and watch that. What I’ve seen so far has been truly guff. Heckie needs to get this working fast. The performances and lack thereof lie squarely at his feet.
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25-08-2019 07:30 AM #12
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There is no evidence to suggest he’s learned anything. In the games since Ibrox the defence have been equally dire against poor opposition.
Fans are criticised for booing and things like that, but its not often that many people are wrong, as they weren’t yesterday.
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25-08-2019 07:36 AM #13
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They didn't show any of the mental characteristics required to be successful under the pressure of being a Hibs player.
There were plenty of the same tense moments where we were hanging onto leads under Lennon and Stubbs but the likes of Efe, Mcginn and Mcgeouch showed the composure and belief in their own ability to drag us up the park.
The fans did contribute to the teams performance in the last few minutes but let's say that was an acid test for the new boys and they failed dramatically. As they did at Ibrox.
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25-08-2019 07:48 AM #14
The way he set out the team, his substations, his tactics of sitting in at home against St Johnstone trying to hold on for the win and his comments about us "drawing plenty more games at home" have finally convinced me the guy is out his depth and doesn't have a clue.
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25-08-2019 07:51 AM #15
Or
early warning signs were the top 6 last year.
signing unknown players from league 2
losing to Arbroath in a friendly
drawing with stirling
scraping a bore win against Arbroath
bore home win on 84th minute against st mirren
humped off the huns
drew 3-3 against morton
yesterday
lies about saying high pressing attacking football
lies about fitness levels being new levels etc
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25-08-2019 07:59 AM #16
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People are right to say he is driving fans away. We did so well as a club to bring them back and now we're wanting to watch and do nothing as a hopeless manager helps push those fans away again?
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25-08-2019 08:02 AM #17
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The problem with Hecky is that he says one thing and does another. He set out his vision and trawled the English lower leagues (which he knows) and brings in players who have not improved the team a jot. If anything they are underestimating Scottish football and struggling. Add to that our established players have regressed and any signs of ability have been coached out of them. Tactics appear to be an alien concept and the game is played at pedestrian pace. Surely by now we should be able to see the Hecky vision he promised us. Unfortunately what we are seeing is Heckyball and we will have to live with it until he goes. At the back of my mind was the Blobby Williamson era when he trawled lower leagues to fill the team. If you buy and rely lower league players, you tend to find you end up in lower leagues.
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25-08-2019 08:59 AM #19
So called fans I’ve seen saying they won’t be back after 3 league games is a disgrace imo. Stay away then for me, you just want to come back if/when we pick up win some games and for the big games or guaranteed a day out at a semi or a final.
Support Hibs thought thick and thin good or bad, that mentality of folk well they won’t be missed by me that’s for sure. We are certainly not as bad as some make us out to be, massive improvement needed to be where we want to be yes and I’m sure everyone connected with the club knows that.
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25-08-2019 09:17 AM #20
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Attendances are already dropping. We’re not in a position where we can afford to be losing thousands from the gate.
I’m home and away every week but I wouldn’t blame anyone for finding different ways to spend their cash at the moment. The old thing about going to the cinema if you want entertainment. Well you wouldn’t go back again and again if the general experience was crap. At Easter Road just now the general experience is crap, what we’re watching and in the stands. There is no buzz about it at all.
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25-08-2019 09:29 AM #21
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GGTTH
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25-08-2019 09:45 AM #24
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Stats can hide a multitude of sins. I don’t like what I’m watching and I like all my fellow supporters are the people the manager and the players need to get on side. From what we’ve witnessed so far, we are dug *****.
This is merely a warning shot across the bow as far as I’m concerned because if we continue to perform the way we have been and if the manager continues to make ridiculous decisions then the bullet will be up his arse sooner rather than later!
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25-08-2019 10:12 AM #25
What has Heckingbottom ever said that gives you the slightest hope that he'll be successful?
For me, he just seems to waffle about non-specifics without giving us a clue as to what he's trying to achieve.
I'll also never forgive him for putting the expression "minutes into legs" into the hibs.net vocabulary.
Instead of saying "He's hardly played", folk are now saying "He's not had many minutes." Stop it, FFS!
Yes, I know that's a random rant and isn't a reason to get short of the manager, but it needed saying. I needed to say it.
And breathe.
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25-08-2019 10:15 AM #26This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Making it to this stage of the League Cup is simply not ****ing up.
Add to that we've made harder work of it that we should have.
I have seen precisely zero from PH that makes me think we'd beat either of the OF.
That in itself is a big step down - under Stubbs and Lennon I felt optimistic that we could get something out the OF games.
I think both the OF teams sensed we thought we could get something and were worried about playing us.
Now we're back to a soft touch that's a banker for three points or a bye to the next round.
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25-08-2019 10:17 AM #27This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My gripe with him is his ability to put together an adequate midfield and he either gets another player in or stumbles across something or he'll be out on his erse before he knows it.
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25-08-2019 10:19 AM #28
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I would however say that players can have good and bad games and most of those players from yesterday have some good game credit in the bank.
Managers are less prone to their managerial performances varying from game to game which is I think what people are concerned about here and why PH is getting it tight.
Marciano will make mistakes and have poor games but most folk generally trust him to be a good goalkeeper more often than not.
PH looks like he doesn't know how to set up a team to win consistently in this league and I don't feel that is going to change in the way a player turning his form around changes.
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