Bury fc in dire straits

[Pausa]

Have noticed that unless a bid is accepted for the club then they are expelled from the league this Friday, the owner has rejected a bid today, looking like he's prepared to let them go under, they have a petition in place to reach 10,000signatures, great wee club could do with a bit of help on the signatures
https://www.change.org/p/steve-dale-...-football-club

[Juice-Terry]

Signed and shared.

[Northernhibee]

Signed and shared. Hope for the sake of their supporters that they pull through.

[erin go bragh]

Signed. Shame

[Hibernia&Alba]

Signed. It's such a shame to see a founding member of the Football League in this position. I really hope they survive.

[Hibeesmad]

Not sure if these petitions will actually have any affect but I’ve signed nevertheless

[One Day Soon]

Done.

I always feel gutted for decent supporters of clubs when the owners have gone joy riding around with one of their main passions in life. Yes, even for supporters of Hearts and Rangers when it happened to them - the decent ones that is.

[Bright_Hibee]

Signed and shared

[Pretty Boy]

Signed.

I understand some will argue some clubs naturally reach the end of their viability and we need less clubs etc etc but every club is everything to their fans be that 50 or 500 000 people.

[we are hibs]

Their owner is at it big time. No amount of petitions or offers will save them. Obviously something sinister like developing the ground into housing or something along those lines is going on.

[Pausa]

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Their owner is at it big time. No amount of petitions or offers will save them. Obviously something sinister like developing the ground into housing or something along those lines is going on.

Agree, but he was quoted as saying that they'd be lucky to get 400 signatures, so at least that's good news for them

[JimBHibees]

Compare and contrast with tbe obscene wealth of the huge Manchezter teams just down the road.

[lord bunberry]

I was talking to a group of Bury fans while down at Cheltenham in March. They were all really passionate about their club and it’s sad to see they’re struggling so badly. They were saying that they now train at Man Utd’s old training centre and the owner had big plans for the club. It’s sad it’s all gone so badly wrong for them. As usual it’s the ordinary fans that suffer in these situations.

[hibee-boys]

They need.....money for nothing.

[Blackfordhibby]

Signed

no supporter deserves to lose their club. Well I might make two wee exceptions.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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Signed. It's such a shame to see a founding member of the Football League in this position. I really hope they survive.

as old and historic as Bury FC is, they were not founding members of the football league. Are you thinking of Bolton Wanderers (who are also in desperate trouble)?

sad story regardless. Gigg Lane is a lovely little ground and one of the oldest football stadiums in the world

[HoboHarry]

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They need.....money for nothing from their brothers in arms.

Fixed that for you.....

[eezyrider]

Signed.

Hope they get a last minute reprieve.

http://chng.it/rKK4YCvTWq

[Pausa]

Thanks guys for signing on their behalf, great response

[HAZ2000]

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They need.....money for nothing.

What a band

[CMurdoch]

It's all very well 10,000 folk signing a petition but the harsh reality is that they only have a hardcore of 3,000 fans (average home attendances over the last few years 3,750)
Those 3000 fans need to get their **** together.

Why can't fans representatives get together with interested parties or the present owner and work something out. The fans representatives could approach Man City or Man Utd with a view to a loan to allow them to make a deal with interested parties/owner to keep them afloat.
Folks criticise Hearts supporters on here but they are a great example of fans refusing to let their club die. Really got their **** together and put their hard earned in.

P.S. done a wee bit of research. The present owner Steve Dale bought the loss making and heavily indebted club for £1 last December from property developer (alarm bells ringing for me) Stewart Day. Reading between the lines the club was in a much worse financial state than Dale thought it was and he has been fighting an unwinnable fight to make the finances work ever since. The club is now £2 million in debt. There is also mention of £3.6 million in director loans. All sounding like a massive cluster **** a bit like when David Murray ditched a rapidly sinking Rangers to a hapless half-wit.

[Pausa]

Their fans reps have met with dale, but he's not a guy that likes to reason, he's actually threatened fans who spoke against him, threatening to rip their f####ing heads off, he's liquidated his last 2 business ventures, and stopped paying wages to players and ground staff alike around 6 weeks before the end of the season, the fans to be fair have to funds on the go, one to pay the wages of the staff and one to raise money for potentially getting fan based ownership, but the money he wants is beyond the fans means

[ColintonHibs]

https://youtu.be/zKdU32ZEndc

You’ve got no fans

[CMurdoch]

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Their fans reps have met with dale, but he's not a guy that likes to reason, he's actually threatened fans who spoke against him, threatening to rip their f####ing heads off, he's liquidated his last 2 business ventures, and stopped paying wages to players and ground staff alike around 6 weeks before the end of the season, the fans to be fair have to funds on the go, one to pay the wages of the staff and one to raise money for potentially getting fan based ownership, but the money he wants is beyond the fans means

I think he is in miles over his head and probably losing money hand over fist. Hence the anger and threats.
A professional football club is a money monster, hoovers up massive amounts of money day after day after day.
It is not a thing for a turnip heid to be responsible for.

[pontius pilate]

Dale was on talksport the other day when the brought the bury captain on the phone as well let's just say the captain never held back. Dale is quite happy for the pfa to pay 50% of the players wages the captain has even asked him to sell up and walk away

[Pretty Boy]

As tough as it is for the fans the club will never really die if there is a genuine desire to keep going in some form.

Airdrie
Clydebank
Rangers
Wimbledon
Hereford
Gretna

All clubs in recent memory who have been liquidated or been 'lost' in other ways and they have all been reincarnated in some form or other. It may well mean dropping a few levels, a few tough years and a lot of the fans own money but if there's a will then there's a way.

That's not meant as a dig at the fans or to talk down their plight. It must be awful for them and a 'phoenix' club may not feel the same right now but if they want football to continue in the town then it's an option.

[CMurdoch]

The article in the link below was written by David Conn (the right guy for this job) for the Guardian when Steve Dale took over Bury FC from Stewart Day in December 2018. It is clearly apparent that the writer thinks things are not right. The part about expensive loans secured on the club infrastructure is the stuff of car crushes. Previous owner property developer Stewart Day sounds mega dodgy (aren't all property developers) and new owner Steve Dale a dunce who couldn't see he was taking on a basket case of the worst type.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...-historic-club

[where'stheslope]

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Their fans reps have met with dale, but he's not a guy that likes to reason, he's actually threatened fans who spoke against him, threatening to rip their f####ing heads off, he's liquidated his last 2 business ventures, and stopped paying wages to players and ground staff alike around 6 weeks before the end of the season, the fans to be fair have to funds on the go, one to pay the wages of the staff and one to raise money for potentially getting fan based ownership, but the money he wants is beyond the fans means

Beginning to sound a bit of a hatchet man, put in to wind up the club?
Seen it so many times now, but with all the money sloshing around down there surely hope for them last minute!!
EPL should have a fund for such happenings, like they do for their overpaid football players!!!!

[Smartie]

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Beginning to sound a bit of a hatchet man, put in to wind up the club?
Seen it so many times now, but with all the money sloshing around down there surely hope for them last minute!!
EPL should have a fund for such happenings, like they do for their overpaid football players!!!!

Knowing there was such a safety net would probably only encourage more rash behaviour.

[jgl07]

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As tough as it is for the fans the club will never really die if there is a genuine desire to keep going in some form.

Airdrie
Clydebank
Rangers
Wimbledon
Hereford
Gretna

All clubs in recent memory who have been liquidated or been 'lost' in other ways and they have all been reincarnated in some form or other. It may well mean dropping a few levels, a few tough years and a lot of the fans own money but if there's a will then there's a way.

That's not meant as a dig at the fans or to talk down their plight. It must be awful for them and a 'phoenix' club may not feel the same right now but if they want football to continue in the town then it's an option.

Technically Clydebank and Wimbledon were never liquidated. Clydebank were sold and became Airdrie United and obviously moved to Airdrie. Wimbledon similarly became MK Dons.

Both clubs were reformed although Clydebank remain in the Junior ranks since being reformed. It took Wimbledon ten years to make it back to the EFL. Any replacement club for Bury or Bolton would take something like that given the depth of the English Pyramid system.

Had the Mercer takeover gone ahead, Hibs would have been in that position. You can be sure that the replacement club would not have been fast tracked into the SFL in the way that Sevco were. I suspect that Edinburgh Hibernian, or whatever would have been back in the Premier Division within five years.