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    Bolton Wanderers are doing it for the kids

    Bolton have postponed tomorrow's game against Doncaster due to fears of overusing young players, according to sky sports.

    Thoughts?


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    They are in a bad way, and getting worse

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    The side is made up of U18 players. The kids are knackered after playing 3 games in 9 days I think. It’s really a safety issue as they could possibly pick up some serious injuries.

    That said the Admins pulled the game without informing the opposition or the EFL.

    Right thing to do, but not the right way to go about it


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    I think that's a fair call from them given what they're going through. I've no idea how they've got themselves into such a state, are they on the brink of liquidation?
    Mon the Hibs.

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    Could it be that it’s delay tactics, expecting a heavier thumping than the one they got on Saturday? Is a club not obliged to fulfil its fixtures? A further points deduction may be on the cards. The situation with Bolton & Bury has made league 1 a bit of a farce and brings the integrity of the competition into question.

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    Bolton and Bury....what a mess

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    18 and 19 year-olds can't play two matches a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl07 View Post
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    18 and 19 year-olds can't play two matches a week?
    Two senior matches per week. When Andy Murray was starting his career he'd virtually pass out after some tennis matches. Athletes develop a lot in their twenties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
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    Two senior matches per week. When Andy Murray was starting his career he'd virtually pass out after some tennis matches. Athletes develop a lot in their twenties.
    It didn't stop Murray winning an ATP final and becoming British Number one at the age of 19.

    Bolton have been taking the p^ss for months now. It needs sorting soon or they are liable to be kicked out of the EFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl07 View Post
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    It didn't stop Murray winning an ATP final and becoming British Number one at the age of 19.

    Bolton have been taking the p^ss for months now. It needs sorting soon or they are liable to be kicked out of the EFL.
    ATP finals are 3 sets, he didn't win a 5 set masters until much later, which probably underlines the point.

    It's also worth pointing out that you can cause young players long term problems by asking them to play a lot of fixtures, particularly against fully developed professionals.

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    How come they keep being owned by complete rats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500miles View Post
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    ATP finals are 3 sets, he didn't win a 5 set masters until much later, which probably underlines the point.

    It's also worth pointing out that you can cause young players long term problems by asking them to play a lot of fixtures, particularly against fully developed professionals.
    Rubbish analogy.

    Bolton are in League One (or the Third Division as it was once known). It is not exactly the top line of competition and is closer to the ATP Challenger Tour than the main ATP Tour let alone the Grand Slams or even the 1000 Series events if you want to make comparisons.

    The rest of League One are being messed about by Bury not being able to establish than they can survive the season and because Bolton are unilaterally deciding that their players are 'feeling a bit tired',

    Do Bolton not have any more Youth team players available to come in and rotate the squad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl07 View Post
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    18 and 19 year-olds can't play two matches a week?
    It would be 3 in a week. No they can’t, they are not ready. These kids are just getting shoved off the ball so easily, it’s only a matter of time before there is a serious injury to one of them. They are not at that level of fitness


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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl07 View Post
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    It didn't stop Murray winning an ATP final and becoming British Number one at the age of 19.

    Bolton have been taking the p^ss for months now. It needs sorting soon or they are liable to be kicked out of the EFL.
    In this particular situation it’s not Bolton that’s taking the p^ss for weeks, it looks like the administrators and the preferred bidders.

    Bolton have taken the puss for years in getting to this situation though


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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    How come they keep being owned by complete rats?
    EFL have a lot to answer for. They approve the owners.

    There is a lot to cover on this subject, too much for here, if Bolton were to go out of business I would bet that there will be a few at the EFL past and present ****ting themselves


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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl07 View Post
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    Rubbish analogy.

    Bolton are in League One (or the Third Division as it was once known). It is not exactly the top line of competition and is closer to the ATP Challenger Tour than the main ATP Tour let alone the Grand Slams or even the 1000 Series events if you want to make comparisons.

    The rest of League One are being messed about by Bury not being able to establish than they can survive the season and because Bolton are unilaterally deciding that their players are 'feeling a bit tired',

    Do Bolton not have any more Youth team players available to come in and rotate the squad?
    They are using U23 players and Under 18 players. I think they have one senior player left in books that is fit to play.

    Also don’t forget that they have gone months without pay ( some have received recent payments). They cannot sign players either.

    They have enough players at U23/ U18 to all train together and play at the moment. Nowt else


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoltonHibee View Post
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    EFL have a lot to answer for. They approve the owners.

    There is a lot to cover on this subject, too much for here, if Bolton were to go out of business I would bet that there will be a few at the EFL past and present ****ting themselves


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    sad state of affairs, there should be a law in place that allows fans to buy out the owners who are neglecting clubs.

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    Solution is simple, if not kind.

    Bolton should be pulled out of the professional leagues.

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    Can one of the gazillionaire EPL clubs like Bournemouth not help them out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forza Fred View Post
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    Solution is simple, if not kind.

    Bolton should be pulled out of the professional leagues.
    Didn’t the EFL stop Bury from playing games? Why have Bolton been allowed to start the season?

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    It's 90 minutes of football, you would think they were being sent out to the trenches of WW1.

    Should be docked the 3 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forza Fred View Post
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    Solution is simple, if not kind.

    Bolton should be pulled out of the professional leagues.
    I agree, over spent for years and kept other clubs from progressing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmas View Post
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    Didn’t the EFL stop Bury from playing games? Why have Bolton been allowed to start the season?
    Exactly.

    Empty promises from preferred bidder and Administrators


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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudSquall View Post
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    It's 90 minutes of football, you would think they were being sent out to the trenches of WW1.

    Should be docked the 3 points.
    They should be. Your first paragraph is a bit harsh


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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl07 View Post
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    Rubbish analogy.
    It was your own analogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl07 View Post
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    Rubbish analogy.

    Bolton are in League One (or the Third Division as it was once known). It is not exactly the top line of competition and is closer to the ATP Challenger Tour than the main ATP Tour let alone the Grand Slams or even the 1000 Series events if you want to make comparisons.

    The rest of League One are being messed about by Bury not being able to establish than they can survive the season and because Bolton are unilaterally deciding that their players are 'feeling a bit tired',

    Do Bolton not have any more Youth team players available to come in and rotate the squad?
    The lower leagues may be easier technically but in terms of sheer physicality and energy output, they're tougher than the Premiership. Injuries are more common in the lower leagues as a result. They've done the right thing pulling them out. Although the club really shouldn't be continuing in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Can one of the gazillionaire EPL clubs like Bournemouth not help them out?
    Did they help Bouremouth out when the shoe was on the other foot? Why should anyone help them? They got themselves into this mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudSquall View Post
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    It's 90 minutes of football, you would think they were being sent out to the trenches of WW1.

    Should be docked the 3 points.
    Deary me.

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    football will be made better by natural selection and some clubs going bust.

    it's all artificial financial doping and it's ruined the game.

    clubs like Bournemouth are tin pot and can't hold a candle to hibs hearts and Aberdeen but cos they get some t.v. cash they're suddenly a big club?



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    Maybe I'm being a bit harsh but if they have enough players in their first team squad they should be playing, yes a lot of the team may be young but 2 games a week at that level should be fine, if not then at 19/20 years old they will struggle to push on, we arent talking EPL elite level

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