Good luck to him I say. Maybe he's just in a really good place in his life and this suits him perfectly?
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Thread: Fraser Fyvie NHC
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20-08-2019 07:17 AM #91
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20-08-2019 07:17 AM #92
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20-08-2019 07:20 AM #93This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If his contract wasnt renewed then he was released. Lets not split hairs.
It matters in the sense that people keep describing Fyvie as great and this and that but he obviously couldnt have been that great if we werent willing to wait. He came in, done alright, became a hibs legend and left. We didnt go on a downward spiral once he left and there werent games where people came away from them thinking "we missed Fyvie today". People are saying they wouldve taken him in midfield now on the basis that our recruitement in midfield has been poor for the last 3 windows.
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20-08-2019 07:26 AM #94
Some absolute nonsense on this thread. For one thing Fyvie hardly ever gave the ball away, thats what he was good at. He kept the ball moving, did the simple things very easily. No hollywood balls etc, but brought others into play.
But really, why the need to insult one of our Cup winners? I really just don't get that. Every one of them has a place in Hibs history. 114 years wait and then put's the boot into one of the players. Weird as f***.
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20-08-2019 07:47 AM #95
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Perhaps through your your knowledge of the Law of Contract and that of Offer and Acceptance you can enlighten me as to how a free agent can be "released".
Seems to me you are the one splitting hairs here tbh.
FWIW i would have been delighted had he resigned.
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20-08-2019 07:54 AM #96
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20-08-2019 07:58 AM #97
Neil Lennon wanted quick responses from Fyvie Fontaine MacGregor Gray and Bartley at the end of our Championship winning season re extending their contracts
Fyvie 24 at the time was offered a three year contract on top wages
He rejected this out of hand preferring to keep his options open
Lennon was not best pleased
He then decided that his best option was to remain with HIBS and sign the contract
A no nonsense Lennon told him it was too late and that the contract offer was withdrawn
It may well be that Lennon had his wages earmarked for another player one thing for sure is that under Lennon you never ever crossed him as there was always only going to be one winner or it may be that like others on here Lennon did not really rate Fraser Fyvie but why offer him such a lucrative contract in the first place?
For whatever reason Fraser Fyvies gamble did not pay off
Hibs legend!
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20-08-2019 08:02 AM #98
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20-08-2019 09:18 AM #99
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I think that there are some people that are so perfect in their own jobs that any bad pass, poor tackle, missed chance is seen as a major negative. Hence why they seem to be so critical of some (many) Hibs players.
Jeez! It's Hibs they are playing for. If they we perfect in all that they do, they wouldn't be at Hibs.
Regarding Fraser Fyvie, I would be interested if those knocking Fraser Fyvie could list the players that they believed were better players for Hibs than Fraser Fyvie, players that played in the central midfield role from the first season Fyvie was with Hibs until now.
Obviously, McGinn, McGeouch and Allan are better players. Henderson obviously was more creative. Bartley was a legend in the eyes of many. Omeonga was very impressive, but for a short period. But apart from that list, who else has been consistently better than Fraser Fyvie.
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20-08-2019 09:36 AM #101
It amazes me that people who have obviously watched the game for years seem to know so little about football. McGeough and Fyvie have both been criticised on here in recent weeks for 'only passing it sideways', 'never running with the ball', 'only making 10 yard passes' and so on.
Every single player can't be Messi. Both are exactly the type or player we are desperately missing now, we are trying to fit square pegs in round holes in filling that position of having someone able to take the ball from the defence, keep the ball and use it and recylcle the ball when a move breaks down and it shows.
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20-08-2019 09:38 AM #102This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You are talking absolute slabbers.
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20-08-2019 09:44 AM #103
I liked Fyvie. A LOT.
He always showed for the ball, never hid and wore the jersey with passion. when he went off injured vs Morton away, our form suffered. Not SOLEY because of FF but it certainly contributed.
He wasn't perfect and I actually thought he would give possession away to easily at times but he would always go after the ball and win it back. Even after a wayward pass he'd offer himself again and again. Sometimes he was slow at moving the ball forward
Once he'd left, we had an ok 6 months. but found a winning formula when we resigned S.Allan and that led to our best midfield in a number of years which I guess can somewhat cloud judgement. He wouldn't be the worst option to have right now for DM
He was the same as most in the championship for us. played well some games. others he was poor.
Contributed significantly to us breaking a 114 year hoodoo so for that will always be a Hibernian FC legend.
Best of luck FraserLast edited by GreenNWhiteArmy; 20-08-2019 at 09:47 AM.
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20-08-2019 09:46 AM #104
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I think that there are some people that are so perfect in their own jobs that any bad pass, poor tackle, missed chance is seen as a major negative. Hence why they seem to be so critical of some (many) Hibs players.
Jeez! It's Hibs they are playing for. If they we perfect in all that they do, they wouldn't be at Hibs.
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20-08-2019 09:54 AM #105
Fyvie was a good player. A level or two below McGinn & McGeough, and didn’t compliment those two in terms of midfield balance (which wasn’t his fault).
I’d have been happy enough if he had stayed as cover for McGinn & McGeough, but at the same time wasn’t overly fussed when he left. He seems to be a player that causes extreme revisionism the longer he is away, be it how good or bad he was depending on what side of the fence you sit on.
An asset to the squad but not irreplaceable is how I remember him.
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20-08-2019 10:17 AM #107
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20-08-2019 10:53 AM #110
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This has gone on far too long and mainly because of you. To be released it has to be from a contract. To not re-sign a player is not a release, you have to be released from something. He was made an offer of a new contract, he took too long to give an answer and the offer was withdrawn. Definitely not rocket science.
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20-08-2019 10:57 AM #111
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20-08-2019 11:39 AM #112
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There's been talk of injury problems being the real reason he's taken such a big step down. I wish him all the best.
Oh and Majorissues should seek help.
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20-08-2019 11:56 AM #113This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Look, I have no issue with the guy. Good luck to him wherever he goes. I just won’t pretend he was a particularly good player for us, regardless if he won the cup. Do you think hearts fans remember darren barr as a class player because he scored in the 5-1? I’ll save you the hassle replying, the answer is no.
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20-08-2019 11:58 AM #114
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20-08-2019 12:00 PM #115
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Excellent player. Another rabbit out the hat from Stubbs and I was delighted when we signed him. Great to be able to call on that sort of talent to make up for the times the more celebrated McGinn and McGeouch maybe weren't on song or, in the latter case, injured.
In hindsight he must wish he'd signed that deal when it was offered. Like Scott Allan, he'd never really settled at one club and he played by far his most consistent football with Hibs - yet obviously thought the grasss might be that bit greener elsewhere.
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20-08-2019 12:08 PM #116This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-08-2019 12:20 PM #117This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I clearly said there wasnt a contract on offer at the end of his contract. That is a fact. I didnt say he wasnt offered a contract at all. Now be big enough to stop patronising people and admit that you were wrong
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20-08-2019 12:30 PM #118This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My point is he was not afraid to get stuck in especially against Der Hun contrary to what you said
What about Waghorn who already booked runs 50 yards to shove Fyvie no action and why does Bartley get booked?
Fair play to Barr even although he was pish scored against a HIBS team packed with mercenaries in a national cup final at Hampden
At the end of the day Fraser Fyvie has a Championship medal and two national cup winning medals
I remember Fraser Fyvie on that great day and SDG who refused to come off injured driving us on at 1-2 down sensing that The Rangers were there for the taking sensing they were tiring and hanging on for the final whistle so much for someone that cannot dictate the pace and tempo of a game
No hassle in replying to your post we are both passionate about our club it is just that we both see different players differently
I have supported HIBS for over fifty years and I have seen a lot worse than Fraser Fyvie and not many can say they have a Scottish Cup winners medal with the mighty Hibernian FC.
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20-08-2019 12:42 PM #119
I'm surprised it didn't work out for Fraser at Utd. He's a decent player and surely good enough for Championship level (or better)
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20-08-2019 12:51 PM #120
One of the most under appreciated skills in football is the ability to keep the ball, or play the simple pass well.
Fyvie was good at this. Playing the easy pass, but at the right weight for the player receiving it. Stevenson also great at this.
Fond memories of Fyvie as a player. Got around the pitch well too.
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