Shelley Kerr

[Northernhibee]

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Has a few drinks, has a team meeting that reduces some players to tears shortly after.

When we have neds like this in charge of a national team is it any wonder we're unsuccessful as a footballing nation?

[Monts]

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Has a few drinks, has a team meeting that reduces some players to tears shortly after.

When we have neds like this in charge of a national team is it any wonder we're unsuccessful as a footballing nation?

I bet SAF never had any harsh words for his players...

[Antifa Hibs]

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Has a few drinks, has a team meeting that reduces some players to tears shortly after.

When we have neds like this in charge of a national team is it any wonder we're unsuccessful as a footballing nation?

We not equals? Or you not allowed to tear into lassie's incase they start greeting?

[hibsbollah]

She's one of those managers who speaks well, I've heard her sound very motivational and inspiring, but tactically lacking. At least she was at the World Cup.
I'd like to know how much drink was involved before jumping to conclusions, did she down 12 pints and vomit all over Jen Beattie or did she just have a couple of pinot grigios?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I’ve called a few family meetings when I’ve been in the midst of a comedown. This may explain why I don’t live with my partner anymore.

[Pretty Boy]

I don't understand what she was thinking at all. The game management left a lot to be desired, from players and managers alike, but apportioning blame when things were still so raw just seems bizarre. If she's admitting alcohol influenced her decision making, which it reads like she is, then that's a whole different ball game.

It's going to be interesting to watch how the team bounce back from the WC and whether she has lost the dressing room.

[Smartie]

I can't really see what the big issue is here.

Football teams everywhere have a bit of bevvy and the odd difference of opinion.

Hopefully this isn't too sexist, but I'd imagine an uncomfortable exchange of words would be more likely to lead to tears in womens football - tears that may have been suggestive of an immediate state of upset but not necessarily indicative of a greater long term problem.

I quite liked the way Kerr came across on TV around the World Cup, in spite of her club allegiances.

[Northernhibee]

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We not equals? Or you not allowed to tear into lassie's incase they start greeting?

I also never liked Terry Butcher or Neil Lennon ripping right into our players either.

[Northernhibee]

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I don't understand what she was thinking at all. The game management left a lot to be desired, from players and managers alike, but apportioning blame when things were still so raw just seems bizarre. If she's admitting alcohol influenced her decision making, which it reads like she is, then that's a whole different ball game.

It's going to be interesting to watch how the team bounce back from the WC and whether she has lost the dressing room.

This is also it. Her tactics were terrible. For us to be three up with about twenty minutes to go and crash out is unbelievable.

Saying "everyone likes a drink" in football doesn't excuse it. She's supposed to be a leader. What an awful example to set to the team.

[Sean1875]

Damn Jambos.

[Just Jimmy]

she should have been sacked after the world cup. she was very poor and tactically nieve. in addition the public spat with solo made her look silly.

then this.

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[The Harp Awakes]

Thought she looked a bit disheveled and was evasive in the bbc interview last night and didn't come across very well.

Other than that, just sounds like a typical bust up between manager and players which happens every day in football.

[ahibby]

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This is also it. Her tactics were terrible. For us to be three up with about twenty minutes to go and crash out is unbelievable.

Saying "everyone likes a drink" in football doesn't excuse it. She's supposed to be a leader. What an awful example to set to the team.

I agree that her tactics cost us progression and she had a cheek to blame it all on certain players which she seems to have done. What makes it worse is that according to reports her tirade was fuelled by having too many. I'd get shot but the SFA don't seem to be up for that so we will just have to wait until she blows the Europe's for the inevitable. I'm glad I don't have a manager that get's tanked up before meetings.

[JimBHibees]

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I don't understand what she was thinking at all. The game management left a lot to be desired, from players and managers alike, but apportioning blame when things were still so raw just seems bizarre. If she's admitting alcohol influenced her decision making, which it reads like she is, then that's a whole different ball game.

It's going to be interesting to watch how the team bounce back from the WC and whether she has lost the dressing room.

Seems a really unfortunate thing to have happened. Not the smartest thing to do after what was the teams best performance in the tournament last 15 mins aside. There were enough positives to be taken from the final game to not really focus on any negatives either from the coaches or the players. Would be a shame if this diverted attention from their next tournament. Should be an apology given and move on.

[lord bunberry]

Steve Clarke rarely looks sober, maybe they’re drinking buddies.

[Since452]

Lennon out

[green day]

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I can't really see what the big issue is here.

Football teams everywhere have a bit of bevvy and the odd difference of opinion.

Hopefully this isn't too sexist, but I'd imagine an uncomfortable exchange of words would be more likely to lead to tears in womens football - tears that may have been suggestive of an immediate state of upset but not necessarily indicative of a greater long term problem.

I quite liked the way Kerr came across on TV around the World Cup, in spite of her club allegiances.

Aye, but it wasnt that they went for a few beers afterwards - thats accepted as being a decent and sensible thing to do.

Then, perhaps a day or so later, sit down with the players and discuss what went wrong.

The chat seems to be that - after some bevvies, she decided to have an immediate "debrief" of the tournament and ripped into some players.

Wasnt the time to do that, pretty unprofessional - she may not survive this.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Gets bevvied then has the team meeting. You can't get more Scottish than that.

[JimBHibees]

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Has a few drinks, has a team meeting that reduces some players to tears shortly after.

When we have neds like this in charge of a national team is it any wonder we're unsuccessful as a footballing nation?

Bit harsh as sounds like no one has any real idea what happened. May have tried to have a meeting and an argument kicked off and she said some things that she wouldn't have wanted to. Seems like she was aware that she had some responsibility.

[The 90+2]

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Gets bevvied then has the team meeting. You can't get more Scottish than that.

“And ahlll tell you this boy!!!, erm girl”!!

[500miles]

Big deal, it's a passionate game, move on, apologise and don't make a habit of it.

[Keith_M]

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....
The chat seems to be that - after some bevvies, she decided to have an immediate "debrief"
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Wow! This gets more shocking by the minute.

Do the players have a case for sexual harassment?

[Cataplana]

What did she do, tear into them for not making any substitutions ?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

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she should have been sacked after the world cup. she was very poor and tactically nieve. in addition the public spat with solo made her look silly.

then this.

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Hard to imagine a manager of the mens team surviving in similar circumstances, she failed and should face the consequences.

[Future17]

There's nothing wrong with having a few drinks to wind down, provided you're not using alcohol as a "crutch".

It's personal preference, but I don't think there's anything wrong with criticising players, provided it's done with forethought and with a planned reaction in mind.

The problem here is that, by combining the two elements, even if SK didn't lose control of the "debrief" session itself, she opened herself up to losing control of the narrative around it.

[WhileTheChief..]

She was on Sportsound last night talking about it.

Her and some coaching staff went for a meal the day after the last game and had a couple of drinks.

They then had a de-brief meeting afterwords.

Hardly a big deal.

[green day]

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Wow! This gets more shocking by the minute.

Do the players have a case for sexual harassment?

I did wonder if anyone would pick up on my double entendre

[fiolex1]

If you addressed your team drunk in any other business, you’d be sacked!

[Green Badger]

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She was on Sportsound last night talking about it.

Her and some coaching staff went for a meal the day after the last game and had a couple of drinks.

They then had a de-brief meeting afterwords.

Hardly a big deal.

Maybe not a big deal, but an error of judgement that might cost her the Scotland job longer term.

Did they say whether the de-brief was scheduled, in which case having a bevvy beforehand was ill advised, or if it was impromptu following said few drinks?

[bawheid]

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If you addressed your team drunk in any other business, you’d be sacked!

Exactly! It doesn’t look great. The idea that it would be fine for a professional manager to have a few drinks before a team meeting went out of date in the 1980s.

The circumstances are everything here but if she got bevvied and then called an impromptu meeting where she then tore her players a new one... well, she should be sacked.