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    Putting your job on the line PH-style

    Part 1 - saying we'll have fitness levels not known before (and we are timid and slow to close down)
    Part 2 - signing duds like Newell and Doidge - we've seen lower league English league players relegate us before and this lot have all the same ingredients
    Part 3 - saying before today's game "we will learn a lot about the players he's signed" in a test like Ibrox
    Part 4 - getting beaten six goals to one

    Is Heckingbottom's job on the line tonight - no
    Have we learned about his team today - yes (should have been 6 even before the red card)
    Have I lost faith in PH's judgement - yes, by about 90%

    Do I expect him to last the season after that?.....do you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Springbank View Post
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    Part 1 - saying we'll have fitness levels not known before (and we are timid and slow to close down)
    Part 2 - signing duds like Newell and Doidge - we've seen lower league English league players relegate us before and this lot have all the same ingredients
    Part 3 - saying before today's game "we will learn a lot about the players he's signed" in a test like Ibrox
    Part 4 - getting beaten six goals to one

    Is Heckingbottom's job on the line tonight - no
    Have we learned about his team today - yes (should have been 6 even before the red card)
    Have I lost faith in PH's judgement - yes, by about 90%

    Do I expect him to last the season after that?.....do you?
    That was Heckingbottom’s Malmo.

    Fenlon never recovered from that, I can’t say I expect Hecky to either.
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    Genuinely the most gutless performance from a hibs side since relegation. Up there with your malmo and hearts final.

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    Fair points. A huge response is required from the team to recoup any faith.

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    His jobs not on the line for me, but a result like today puts him only 2 or 3 results away from it.

    2 wins needed from the next 2 games and some of the questions that are raised after today's performance can start being forgotten about.

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    That was Heckingbottom’s Malmo.

    Fenlon never recovered from that, I can’t say I expect Hecky to either.
    Or it was like Stubbs 6-2 loss at home vs Rangers. 9 months later we won the cup.

    Today is all about how we react

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    That result and performance has put massive pressure on the Manager. Difficult to see from the players he's recruited how he's going to turn things around quickly. Also can't see wee Ron waiting too long before he wields the axe.

    Amidst last season's positivity around Hecky, and mostly decent results, there were 3 or 4 absolute horror shows where we did not turn up. The worry then was that he can't motivate players for big games. Today was a carbon copy.

    Whittaker was always going to get a roasting at full back. Definitely should have went 352

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    That was Heckingbottom’s Malmo.

    Fenlon never recovered from that, I can’t say I expect Hecky to either.
    This

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    I share a lot of the concerns people have but now getting the feeling a lot of folk are really hoping the manager and team fail. Generally ER is pretty poisonous when it’s like that so tough times ahead.

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    Next Saturday is a must win

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    I share a lot of the concerns people have but now getting the feeling a lot of folk are really hoping the manager and team fail. Generally ER is pretty poisonous when it’s like that so tough times ahead.
    Its piled a lot of pressure on Hecky now...even the last 3 or 4 weeks on this board have been pretty grim a lot of fans clearly dont like or believe in him and hes now under intense pressure after a skelping like that today.
    .I've given him the benefit of the doubt till now and the new guys but am seriously concerned after that shambles today

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Or it was like Stubbs 6-2 loss at home vs Rangers. 9 months later we won the cup.

    Today is all about how we react
    We had the makings of a good side then, dont see that with this team put together by.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibeesmad View Post
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    Next Saturday is a must win
    Regardless of today's result, a league cup game vs Morton at ER is always a must win.

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    That’s one of the toughest games of the season out the way.

    Could be a record breaking season for the OF. Think they’ll routinely skelp their opposition.

    Don’t agree with the mantra that PH is pedalling tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Or it was like Stubbs 6-2 loss at home vs Rangers. 9 months later we won the cup.

    Today is all about how we react
    I remember laughing about the reaction to that result at the time because we had a really weak team on the park in what was little more than a pre season friendly. This is way way different.

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    I'm not hitting the panic button just yet, but i must admit my hand did twitch towards it. It's the next game and the reaction we should see that will tell us all about how he manages this squad.

    Today was absolutly gutless of the highest order - made worse by listening with the SevCo TV commentary which was horrific.

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    It really was a gutless performance, even before the sending of, but definitely after the sending of there was only going to be one winner.
    What I can’t understand is why, after we had a player sent of, did he decide to go with two up front, absolutely baffled me and yes I agree with most on here, his signings are crap and I mean crap.
    I know it’s early days but the signs have been there all through the pre season friendlies, especially against St Mirren last week.
    I don’t think he’s up to it and that’s generally not like me to make judgments this early on in the campaign, but I can see this early that it’s not going to end up good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Or it was like Stubbs 6-2 loss at home vs Rangers. 9 months later we won the cup.

    Today is all about how we react

    Remind me what competition that was in

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    Or it was like Stubbs 6-2 loss at home vs Rangers. 9 months later we won the cup.

    Today is all about how we react
    The Challenge Cup is a joke of a competition and I'm extremely thankful we didn't win it.

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    Haven't seen as angry a reaction to a result since Malmo. For it to come so soon in Heckingbottoms tenure is telling. I think most of us are far from convinced by signings, tactics or his baffling pronouncements.

    He'll be gone soon..I dont reckon theres time or budget to address the glaring inadequacies in the team and squad so performances will continue to be 'timid' (which is the word I most associate with Heckys Hibs other than gash).

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    That was Heckingbottom’s Malmo.

    Fenlon never recovered from that, I can’t say I expect Hecky to either.
    Totally agree.... Next couple of games are make or break.

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    I don't think he'll recover.

    He had a tough job wining over the fans anyway as he had big shoes to fill (I include Lennon and Stubbs in that). He done OK last season until he had to play the top teams consistently but this season so far has been dour. That's as apt a word as I can think of; dull, torpid football with a few players looking well out of their depth.

    I can't speak for others but the stuff being said about him from guys around me at the game and on the subway after was toxic. If he does recover it will be a comeback of Lazarus proportions.
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    He's fortunate it's Morton followed by St Johnstone at home next.

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    He's fortunate it's Morton followed by St Johnstone at home next.
    Anything less than 2 convincing wins and that could be a very unfortunate run of fixtures for him.

    We fail to win either and he'll be under all sorts of pressure.
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    That was Heckingbottom’s Malmo.

    Fenlon never recovered from that, I can’t say I expect Hecky to either.
    I agree that was a shocking, and unacceptable result, but when Fenlon left we were 5th in the league. The big question is how PH and the Hibs players respond to the result today because, as others have said, being beaten 6-1 in the SPL is also shocking and unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Or it was like Stubbs 6-2 loss at home vs Rangers. 9 months later we won the cup.

    Today is all about how we react
    Within weeks of that game we'd signed John McGinn and Dylan McGeouch. That's a reaction.

    Can you see us doing the same over the next few weeks?

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    Feels like Colin Calderwood all over again and look how that panned out
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Or it was like Stubbs 6-2 loss at home vs Rangers. 9 months later we won the cup.

    Today is all about how we react
    In a pre season friendly? Look at our team that day and look at the side that won the cup.

    Heckys lost the wheel.

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