Formula 1

[RyeSloan]

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I think that contractually it fulfills the minimum requirements. They won’t have to offer refunds to fans, sponsors and tv companies. I agree though that it’s a bit of a con. George Russell didn’t seem to mind though.

Classic F1 that nonsense of a ‘race’ today.

It was obvious they couldn’t go out so should either have called it a dead rubber or looked to have the race tomorrow. With the latter probably a rather significant technical challenge to pull off the right thing to do was probably just call it off.

Getting points and podiums for that is just wrong but hey it didn’t seem to bother Russell who at least got some reward for his cracking lap yesterday!

[lord bunberry]

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Classic F1 that nonsense of a ‘race’ today.

It was obvious they couldn’t go out so should either have called it a dead rubber or looked to have the race tomorrow. With the latter probably a rather significant technical challenge to pull off the right thing to do was probably just call it off.

Getting points and podiums for that is just wrong but hey it didn’t seem to bother Russell who at least got some reward for his cracking lap yesterday!

The race director claims he wasn’t pressured into doing what he did, but I’m not having that. Doing what he did covered everyone’s back in terms of refunds and contracts. As you say it was classic F1, it reminded me of that race in America years ago that went ahead with only 4 cars due to problems with the tyres. It was a total stitch up, but that’s F1 I suppose, they’ll move onto the next race and all will be forgotten.

[CloudSquall]

I think Bottas' posting a fastest lap when told not to all but confirms that Russell is heading to Mercedes.

[McD]

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I think Bottas' posting a fastest lap when told not to all but confirms that Russell is heading to Mercedes.

it was mentioned quickly on one of the post race shows that he’s rumoured to be off to Alfa Romeo next season, which would probably mean it’s nailed on fro Russell to be at Mercedes

[Northernhibee]

Bottas confirmed at Alfa Romeo.

[CloudSquall]

Triple H must be going radio rental in private about Vince, in the cases of Adam Cole and Daniel Bryan this situation was very avoidable.


Edit: Leaving this schoolboy error here for the inevitable puns

[Northernhibee]

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Triple H must be going radio rental in private about Vince, in the cases of Adam Cole and Daniel Bryan this situation was very avoidable.

Couldn’t even get him a drive at Haas.

[Jack]

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Triple H must be going radio rental in private about Vince, in the cases of Adam Cole and Daniel Bryan this situation was very avoidable.

I think this should have been in the thread next door!

[Northernhibee]

Russell confirmed for Mercedes.

[RyeSloan]

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Russell confirmed for Mercedes.

Looking forward to the Russell v Lewis battle already!

Great move for a driver that looks like he’s destined for the very top.

[lord bunberry]

That was a certainty that Bottas was going to stick it on poll after being dropped. He’s going to start from the pit lane on Sunday, but I can see him doing well in the sprint race today and having a strong end to the season now the pressure is off.

[CloudSquall]

Looking at the third picture of the Hamilton/Verstappen crash and you can see why the halo was introduced, looked like it saved Hamilton from some serious bother to say the least,

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1437051198931148802

[patch1875]

Will probably end up Hamilton’s fault for not leaving any room but not sure it was a move Max should have risked through the chicane.

Great seeing the McLarens up front but Bottas on a charge.

[Northernhibee]

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Will probably end up Hamilton’s fault for not leaving any room but not sure it was a move Max should have risked through the chicane.

Great seeing the McLarens up front but Bottas on a charge.

It was the precise same thing that Max tried on Lewis on lap one. He’s a greeting faced little ********.

Fantastic for McLaren and Danny Ric today.

[Jack]

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It was the precise same thing that Max tried on Lewis on lap one. He’s a greeting faced little ********.

Fantastic for McLaren and Danny Ric today.

Nah!

Max stuck to the racing line lap one.

If the two drivers had raced the length of the main straight and Lewis cut across as he did there it would have at least been investigated, error. Turning into the first corner Max gave Lewis room or they would have collided sooner.

Lewis is losing the plot.

[lord bunberry]

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Looking at the third picture of the Hamilton/Verstappen crash and you can see why the halo was introduced, looked like it saved Hamilton from some serious bother to say the least,

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1437051198931148802

Definitely saved him from being seriously injured.

[lord bunberry]

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It was the precise same thing that Max tried on Lewis on lap one. He’s a greeting faced little ********.

Fantastic for McLaren and Danny Ric today.

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Nah!

Max stuck to the racing line lap one.

If the two drivers had raced the length of the main straight and Lewis cut across as he did there it would have at least been investigated, error. Turning into the first corner Max gave Lewis room or they would have collided sooner.

Lewis is losing the plot.

Racing incident for me. Two cars going wheel to wheel into a tight corner and inevitably collided.

[Jack]

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Racing incident for me. Two cars going wheel to wheel into a tight corner and inevitably collided.

Result about to be announced, I think. You're probably right.

[patch1875]

Max gets a 3 place grid penalty at next race.

Bizarre decision

[Northernhibee]

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Max gets a 3 place grid penalty at next race.

Bizarre decision

When you read the stewards report it’s pretty fair IMO.

[patch1875]

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When you read the stewards report it’s pretty fair IMO.

The more I see it the more I get the decision.

Max really should have backed off as Lewis was always going to leave little room in the corner.

[Northernhibee]

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The more I see it the more I get the decision.

Max really should have backed off as Lewis was always going to leave little room in the corner.

Plenty of drivers took the little escape road and conceded position, Max absolutely should have yielded.

This may be controversial but I don’t see him in the top tier of drivers on the grid, he’s a very marketable and fast driver who has a team built around him but doesn’t have the decision making or mental attributes to be on the level of a Hamilton, Leclerc etc.

[McD]

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Plenty of drivers took the little escape road and conceded position, Max absolutely should have yielded.

This may be controversial but I don’t see him in the top tier of drivers on the grid, he’s a very marketable and fast driver who has a team built around him but doesn’t have the decision making or mental attributes to be on the level of a Hamilton, Leclerc etc.

theres a nasty arrogance coming from MV now, where he expects to treat other drivers with disdain on the track, yet also expects them to yield constantly

on corner 4 the situations were reversed, he gave no space and Hamilton had to take the escape over the bumps and lost a position because of it. Then at turn 2 he suddenly expects Hamilton to give him space

i used to have a lot of time for MV, and thought he’d grow out of the Uber aggressiveness that he’s exhibited, but he’s not.

[lord bunberry]

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theres a nasty arrogance coming from MV now, where he expects to treat other drivers with disdain on the track, yet also expects them to yield constantly

on corner 4 the situations were reversed, he gave no space and Hamilton had to take the escape over the bumps and lost a position because of it. Then at turn 2 he suddenly expects Hamilton to give him space

i used to have a lot of time for MV, and thought he’d grow out of the Uber aggressiveness that he’s exhibited, but he’s not.

Every world champion has had that. Schumacher was the worst for it. Verstappen is arrogant, but he backs that up with race wins. Nice guys get nowhere in F1.

[McD]

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Every world champion has had that. Schumacher was the worst for it. Verstappen is arrogant, but he backs that up with race wins. Nice guys get nowhere in F1.

dont disagree, I think there’s one or two who go a bit too far - Schumacher being a prime example

[lord bunberry]

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dont disagree, I think there’s one or two who go a bit too far - Schumacher being a prime example

It’s a very fine line and when there’s a championship to be won it’s a line most will be prepared to cross. All the greats had that nasty streak at times, It’s what makes it so fascinating imo. I agree about Schumacher, he was outrageous at times.

[patch1875]

Red Bull are definitely in with a title shot this year but they don’t seem to have the composure when under pressure.

It’s no wonder Max is the way he is, his father and boss Horner are a couple of arrogant tossers

[Northernhibee]

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Every world champion has had that. Schumacher was the worst for it. Verstappen is arrogant, but he backs that up with race wins. Nice guys get nowhere in F1.

World champions Jenson Button, Kimi Raikkonen and Damon Hill may disagree. All very fair racers and although they’ve bumped wheels with other drivers, not nearly to the same extent or possibly intent.

Tbh, even Lewis is very fair most of the time when it comes to giving space and yielding when it’s best to do so.

[lord bunberry]

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World champions Jenson Button, Kimi Raikkonen and Damon Hill may disagree. All very fair racers and although they’ve bumped wheels with other drivers, not nearly to the same extent or possibly intent.

Tbh, even Lewis is very fair most of the time when it comes to giving space and yielding when it’s best to do so.

True but that’s probably the reason they only won one title. Hamilton has had plenty moments where he’s crashed or refused to give up a corner, his battles with Vettel and especially Rosberg got nasty at times. Lately he’s had the luxury of not really having a serious challenger so has been able to take a far more pragmatic view when things get a bit hairy. Hamilton has a challenger this season and you can see the formidable competitor that he is coming out again, he won’t back down to Verstappen and there will be more of these incidents between now and the end of the season.

[Northernhibee]

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True but that’s probably the reason they only won one title. Hamilton has had plenty moments where he’s crashed or refused to give up a corner, his battles with Vettel and especially Rosberg got nasty at times. Lately he’s had the luxury of not really having a serious challenger so has been able to take a far more pragmatic view when things get a bit hairy. Hamilton has a challenger this season and you can see the formidable competitor that he is coming out again, he won’t back down to Verstappen and there will be more of these incidents between now and the end of the season.

Thing is, Lewis knows when to hold and when to yield, he knows it’s on.

Max will only ever win a fraction of what he could as he only ever does one thing. He’s just not clever enough.