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    Hibs Great or Hibs Legend ?

    In your opinion what is the difference?

    We all know the obvious legends but there are a few who fall somewhere in between and probably split opinion between a great and a legend.

    Here are a few

    Keith Wright - Legend
    Goram - Great
    McGinley - Great
    Weir - Great
    Jones - Legend
    Latapy - Great
    Burridge - Great never took to him don't know why.
    Jackson - Great
    Stokes - Legend
    Bremner - Great
    Edwards - Legend

    There are loads more who are yours ?
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    Burridge and Weir both in the team that one the league Cup. Difficult not to class a cup winner as a legend. Good discussion point though

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    For me, a legend is a great that ‘gets’ us!

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    Gordon Smith
    Pat Stanton
    Lawrie Reilly
    Joe Baker
    Bobby Johnstone
    Eddie Turnbull
    Willie Ormond

    All HIBS greats but when the legend becomes fact print the legend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentinted View Post
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    For me, a legend is a great that ‘gets’ us!
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    Burridge and Weir both in the team that one the league Cup. Difficult not to class a cup winner as a legend. Good discussion point though
    That is it everyone has different likes, dislikes and standards making it difficult to agree. Most would say Sauzee was a legend but is he?
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    Gordon Smith
    Pat Stanton
    Lawrie Reilly
    Joe Baker
    Bobby Johnstone
    Eddie Turnbull
    Willie Ormond

    All HIBS greats but when the legend becomes fact print the legend
    I don't think anyone will argue with those but what about the rest of the Tornadoe's?

    O'Rourke i would say Legend some may not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy7nil View Post
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    That is it everyone has different likes, dislikes and standards making it difficult to agree. Most would say Sauzee was a legend but was he?
    Sauzee isn’t a legend. Legend is a word branded around too much. David Gray is a legend as is Stokesy & Lewis Stevenson in fact it’s all a matter of opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy7nil View Post
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    I don't think anyone will argue with those but what about the rest of the Tornadoe's?

    O'Rourke i would say Legend some may not.
    You are preaching to the converted

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    I will get slated for posting too much but is Deek a great or do his many goals make him a legend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Sauzee isn’t a legend. Legend is a word branded around too much. David Gray is a legend as is Stokesy & Lewis Stevenson in fact it’s all a matter of opinion.
    Legend to Marseille fans

    Legend in my eyes

    Set his standard with HIBS and never fell below it

    The guy was total quality

    Is he a HIBS legend?

    Won a Championship

    I would say yes we will never see the like again

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Legend to Marseille fans

    Legend in my eyes

    Set his standard with HIBS and never fell below it

    The guy was total quality

    Is he a HIBS legend?

    Won a Championship

    I would say yes we will never see the like again
    Not for me. A hero, a great and there will be legendary tales of him playing for Hibernian but he’s not a legend for me.

    He might be a champions league winning legend to other fans but there was nothing done to achieve legendary status at Hibs. David Gray is on another planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Not for me. A hero, a great and there will be legendary tales of him playing for Hibernian but he’s not a legend for me.
    Opinions eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Opinions eh?
    Most definite Bill. Sauzee is the greatest player I’ve ever seen in a Hibs jersey but not a legend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Most definite Bill. Sauzee is the greatest player I’ve ever seen in a Hibs jersey but not a legend.
    By contrast I would say Ivan Sproule is not one of the greatest Hibs players I've seen, but he is indeed a Hibs legend for his exploits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Most definite Bill. Sauzee is the greatest player I’ve ever seen in a Hibs jersey but not a legend.
    Legend in my eyes always gave 100%

    That is all you can ask

    Never lost against Hearts

    The guy was HIBS class totally got us

    It all went Pete Tong

    He is up there with Ronnie Simpson Des Bremner and George Best as European Cup Winning legends that have all played for HIBS
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    Maybe the OP should add : Cult Hero

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Most definite Bill. Sauzee is the greatest player I’ve ever seen in a Hibs jersey but not a legend.
    Pat Stanton was better and he is a legend



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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Gordon Smith
    Pat Stanton
    Lawrie Reilly
    Joe Baker
    Bobby Johnstone
    Eddie Turnbull
    Willie Ormond

    All HIBS greats but when the legend becomes fact print the legend
    I don't think there's many if any can be mentioned in the same sentence with these.

    There have been many greats but mainly down to modern day football the short longevity at any club makes it hard for any to become a true legend.

    George Best a footballing legend no doubt but only very briefly a Hibs great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeyhibee View Post
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    I don't think there's many if any can be mentioned in the same sentence with these.

    There have been many greats but mainly down to modern day football the short longevity at any club makes it hard for any to become a true legend.

    George Best a footballing legend no doubt but only very briefly a Hibs great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Pat Stanton was better and he is a legend


    I’m too young for Paddy but I would agree he’s a legend.

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    By contrast I would say Ivan Sproule is not one of the greatest Hibs players I've seen, but he is indeed a Hibs legend for his exploits.
    Strangely enough I would agree. He achieved legendary status and I’ll never forget Celtic Park then Ibrox ever.

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    There’s a need to be clear about what ‘great’ and ‘legend’ actually mean. I know how I define them but everyone else probably has a variation.

    Going back to 21/05/16 then SDG is and can only be a legend. For me, Stokes is a great, not a legend. Hendo is possibly a legend, based on what he did after he came on and his run to the touchline at the final whistle.

    That is maybe the difference, that ‘legend’ requires something a bit more sublime than just being ‘great’.

    Hanlon and Stevenson were great on the day but I wouldn’t argue they were legends for their match performances, as outstanding as they were, but their reactions to holding up the Cup put them automatically in the legends category, the sheer joy on their faces.

    We have had many great players, and many players who have shown greatness at times.

    Legend for me means greatness, even if it is fleeting, plus some visible emotional connection to the club.
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    David Gray gets instant legend status regardless. I must say I don't know if he'd be a legend if he hadn't scored that goal but everything he's given over the years backs it right up, got the title by chance but deserves it in the long run. Took a neutral mate (Spurs) to the last derby and said Gray was a club legend and he said 'he plays like it.'

    Stokes for me - no chance. Passage of time helps but I feel it only applies to the likes of Stanton, FF, Wright etc. Plenty don't qualify; George Best is a footballing legend but nowhere near a Hibs legend. Just a legend who played at Hibs when he was fat and *****. Lewie deserves it for his long service, though not everyone in the cup team fully justifies it beyond being involved - not ****ting on the achievement, just saying.

    'Hero' or 'Great' apply to a lot of folk who deserve recognition but legend should mean something different. I don't know anyone in the Golden Generation for instance that I would class as a legend, though Deeks comes close as a good Hibby (Thomson and O'Connor are ***** Hibbies).

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    Without Stokes waking up that determined to slay the huns then there would be no Scottish Cup. He’s a legend imo. As is Stubbsy.

    Sir David Gray is immortal though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy7nil View Post
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    I will get slated for posting too much but is Deek a great or do his many goals make him a legend?
    Legend. He'd still do a job for us as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haymaker View Post
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    Legend. He'd still do a job for us as well.
    There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars

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    Le God!
    He got us so much nobody has seen him in 20 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haymaker View Post
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    Legend. He'd still do a job for us as well.
    He's legendary. There's legends about him.

    Not great though.

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    Conrad Logan is a great test case.

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