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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonewall View Post
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    Well Rory Stewart is clearly in the wrong party I’ll give you that. Gove though?

    i was just trying to make the point that in a whip system it may not be an entirely accurate representation of her own views and that maybe the next Lib Dem manifesto will be a more accurate reflection on where she stands.

    if she was a Tory why would she just not join the Conservative Party?
    Is she was anywhere near as principled as she's trying to present herself, then she would have stood up to the whip, instead of putting her own career first.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Is she was anywhere near as principled as she's trying to present herself, then she would have stood up to the whip, instead of putting her own career first.
    True but probably applies to 90% of MPs. Particularly difficult given the fact that her party was in a coalition with the Tory’s for much of her time as an MP and she was Nick Clegg’s PPS I think.

    Or maybe the whips had something really damning on her and she didn’t dare defy the whip.

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    Or to disregard it just sounds like someone who can't be bothered to actually look at her voting record over the years. She is a tory. Her record makes that very clear. Not only is she a tory, she's more of a tory than the likes of Rory Stewart and Michael Gove.
    This voting record stuff is cringeable. She was part of a junior partner in coalition govt and voted along with that govt like all the rest of her party. Exactly the same as almost all other MPs apart from the odd headbanger.

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    True but probably applies to 90% of MPs. Particularly difficult given the fact that her party was in a coalition with the Tory’s for much of her time as an MP and she was Nick Clegg’s PPS I think.

    Or maybe the whips had something really damning on her and she didn’t dare defy the whip.
    You’re quite right except more like 99%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonewall View Post
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    True but probably applies to 90% of MPs. Particularly difficult given the fact that her party was in a coalition with the Tory’s for much of her time as an MP and she was Nick Clegg’s PPS I think.

    Or maybe the whips had something really damning on her and she didn’t dare defy the whip.
    Well it would need to be something pretty damn damning. All the more reason not to trust her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonewall View Post
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    if she was a Tory why would she just not join the Conservative Party?
    Because then she couldn’t spend her life working towards being an agent provocateur of the highest order.

    Seriously you clearly have no idea how a long game works and just how well versed the Tories are in the game of sleeper agents (hard lessons from the Cold War). It’s obvious to all (well at least one person) that Jo is just a particularly well played pawn in the big bad Tories game of political espionage...

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    Because then she couldn’t spend her life working towards being an agent provocateur of the highest order.

    Seriously you clearly have no idea how a long game works and just how well versed the Tories are in the game of sleeper agents (hard lessons from the Cold War). It’s obvious to all (well at least one person) that Jo is just a particularly well played pawn in the big bad Tories game of political espionage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    Because then she couldn’t spend her life working towards being an agent provocateur of the highest order.

    Seriously you clearly have no idea how a long game works and just how well versed the Tories are in the game of sleeper agents (hard lessons from the Cold War). It’s obvious to all (well at least one person) that Jo is just a particularly well played pawn in the big bad Tories game of political espionage...
    Aye, very good. Remain ignorant all you want. Her voting record speaks for itself. If she actually had a soul, she never would have followed the tory whip, just to keep her own personal career intact.

    If you think another careerist politician who will always put the interests of her career above and beyond everything else, including the livelihoods of the people she's suppost to represent is the answer against the tories, then you bash on.

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