“Levels of fitness they’ve not known before”

[Here’s Lucy!]

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God knows how a tongue in cheek comment prompts your unnecessary response. Lighten up, mate.

As usual, Jim, you are on the ball.

Well said, sir.

[loanheadhibby]

[QUOTE=The_Horde;5843851]They've maybe not. If Heckingbottom is treating these as pre season games then it's not unusual for them to have trained this morning on top of their work this week.

That might be why they look leggy.[/QUOTE

i'd be surprised if they had trained this morning and then played a game. Sports science would likely consider that as an injury risk.

The point is that it's no longer like the 70/80's when players used to get beasted on the sand dunes. These guys look after themselves all year round. Any fitness work should just be getting match sharpness.

[BoomtownHibees]

This statement could quickly become this seasons “biggest budget ever” quote

[Michael]

To be fair "levels of fitness they've not known before" could also mean lower levels of fitness.

[Here’s Lucy!]

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To be fair "levels of fitness they've not known before" could also mean lower levels of fitness.

Good point btw.

Probably wasn’t, but the pedant in yourself and I will see it that way.

[matty_f]

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[Lee Marvin]

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That can't be right!? Stirling are fitter than us and they only train about 30 mins a week.

[we are hibs]

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That can't be right!? Stirling are fitter than us and they only train about 30 mins a week.

People's eyes don't lie to them. They can claim to be as fit as a fiddle but being second to a 2nd ball is what counts. Not running stats and all that nonsense. Win your own battles and be there first. We didn't do that enough.

[H18 SFR]

Do you think we are maybe missing some thing and they're actually burnt out or over trained?

They simply are not 'flying'.

[Alan62]

I went to the game yesterday and also went to Dunfermline last weekend. To me, the players looked very tired - which is pretty much what I expected at this point in their fitness conditioning. Of course, I would have liked them to have played better as the play was woeful at times, but, let's face it, Scotland's top teams always struggle at this time of the year. Just think about the number of occasions that we've all watched Scottish teams get knocked out of European competition by sides that they'd comfortably beat mid-season.

While I'm no expert on fitness and conditioning, you can only imagine that the process takes a bit of time and that the process involves a fairly exhausting intensity at the start. Our target will be to have the fitness levels peaking at the start of the league season. After that, it will be all about maintenance and the regime will change considerably.

While I recognise that the season has started and that yesterday was a competitive game, it's just not possible to give the players a much-needed holiday AND get the intense training done in time to start playing at peak fitness in early July.

So let's wait and see if the manager's claim is fulfilled when the league season is properly underway.

As for the guy behind me who was screaming and bawling and effing and blinding in front of his children about how embarrassing the team was yesterday, maybe you need to find something else to do on a Saturday that will reduce your personal risk of heart attack, save your children from the massive embarrassment of seeing your fat tomato face contorted with rage and spare us all from having to listen to your puerile observations.

[Golden Bear]

In terms of fitness, I really don't know how professional football players would cope with five set professional tennis, there ain't no hiding place on a tennis court.

[EI255]

Just glad we're not in European competition, would have been shown up and emptied early this season, based on the early pre season form.

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[blackpoolhibs]

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The season started today

remember the hysteria when we were losing away in the Faroe's, we either use these games as a pre season or we get fit enough before them, which is it?

And of course, we had not got enough players in when we were playing in Europe, and the side was so unbalanced it was criminal, yet funny enough, they kept winning?

I was always under the impression we could win one of two trophies, yet we are under prepared for one of them, so much so i'm sure the manager said during the week he'd done no work on systems and formations?

[hibbie02]

I’m wondering if Hecky is working them into the ground on the training ground. We seem to have a lot of injuries already and if the players are knackered on the pitch, the fitness regime might be OTT.


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[RossScott1991]

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“Hibs are creating chances”

Articles like these, and the post match interviews from Cliff Pike don’t help. Watching hibs tv Cliff mentioning how they are creating many chances etc. I’d rather he question things like why team weren’t pressing etc. I was at the game and bar header from doidge in first half, we created nothing until the last 10mins. It was complete garbage from start to finish and I feel like for fans not at the game they tune into the post match interviews wanting abit more of an honest assessment

[Cod Boy]

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“Hibs are creating chances”

Articles like these, and the post match interviews from Cliff Pike don’t help. Watching hibs tv Cliff mentioning how they are creating many chances etc. I’d rather he question things like why team weren’t pressing etc. I was at the game and bar header from doidge in first half, we created nothing until the last 10mins. It was complete garbage from start to finish and I feel like for fans not at the game they tune into the post match interviews wanting abit more of an honest assessment

Sometimes I think Mr Pike is watching a different game or is scared to ask difficult questions.

[RossScott1991]

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Sometimes I think Mr Pike is watching a different game or is scared to ask difficult questions.

Indeed, I just think it should be his duty to ask more probing questions on what he has seen. But that’s why it’s hibs tv I suppose it’s complete bias. I’d be worried if anyone watching that truly thought it was decent and should have been 6 or 7 as they mention

[IWasThere2016]

We were 1/8 with most bookies.

Yesterday's result was poor and I can't understand the defence of it.

It was a competitive game in a competition we must be looking to win.

[BILLYHIBS]

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We were 1/8 with most bookies.

Yesterday's result was poor and I can't understand the defence of it.

It was a competitive game in a competition we must be looking to win.

I expect us to win it or at least get to the final

So wake up call needed at East Mains

[matty_f]

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We were 1/8 with most bookies.

Yesterday's result was poor and I can't understand the defence of it.

It was a competitive game in a competition we must be looking to win.

Has anyone defended it?

[1van Sprou7e]

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I expect us to win it or at least get to the final

So wake up call needed at East Mains

You expect us to win the league cup? Why?

[The 90+2]

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You expect us to win the league cup? Why?

We should be able to beat any side on our day.

[Heisenberg]

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We should be able to beat any side on our day.

By the same measure, any side should be able to beat us on their day as well.

[DetroitHibs]

I think paying for the lads to have a good bevvy session and the next day off would probably work wonders.

[The 90+2]

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By the same measure, any side should be able to beat us on their day as well.

With our resources in Scottish Football that’s simply not the case.

[one day maybe...]

Watching the men’s final at Wimbledon, now that’s fitness 😮

[Keith_M]

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The league season, unless we are expecting players to get to be found levels of fitness in just a couple weeks?

When did Stirling's season start?

[jacomo]

As others have said, it could be that the first team squad have been flogged mercilessly over the past few weeks to establish a base level of fitness that will set them up for the season.

We will only really know this as the season unfolds, but if true it would explain why the players look sluggish now.

[matty_f]

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When did Stirling's season start?

Yesterday?

Have they reached the levels of fitness they’re going to reach, or we’re going to reach? I’m not sure what your point is.

[Iggy Pope]

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Watching the men’s final at Wimbledon, now that’s fitness 😮

Here we go with this old guff. Who are they playing next week?