If I'm not mistaken that £4.2m is made mostly up of last seasons season ticket sales which will now be gone on wages, general running of the club etc.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Thread: Meeting with wee Ron
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13-07-2019 04:19 AM #61
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13-07-2019 04:23 AM #62
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13-07-2019 04:40 AM #63
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13-07-2019 07:28 AM #64
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If ‘nothing much changes’ then we are no worse off...same horse, different jockey as they say.
We all hope for a ‘Fitba Sugar Daddy’ but they are few and far between.
As for the ‘Pony Up’ comment....I assume it is meant that the expectation on his part is they will..’continue to do their bit’..as they have been doing.
Don’t see anything sinister in it.....
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13-07-2019 08:43 AM #65This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteYou found your God in a paper back, you get your history from the Union Jack, and all your brothers and sisters have gone and they won't come back.
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13-07-2019 09:17 AM #66
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I know we must develop our youth players, but I don’t see the path to riches or glory through a conveyer belt of youngsters capable at performing at SPFL level being produced.
The churn rate indicates that relatively few come through to be regular first team players, Even less so, first team players who other clubs are willing to pay a substantial fee for.
Even if they do have the required talent, and it is a big if, they don’t immediately go from Academy player to serious transfer target overnight, so any return on investment is potentially years away.
If Ron thinks he will increase the revenue stream through youth development, methinks he will end up disappointed.
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13-07-2019 09:28 AM #67
Not convinced by the pony up bit. E.R stands and training facilities were mostly funded through player sales which were enhanced by petrie's hardball tactics. Surely the best way to do Infrastructure is to invest these large gains if and when they come along as opposed to *****ing them on one season of big wage earners.
Ponying up small amounts to support the playing budget is an easier sell to fans than infrastructure
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13-07-2019 01:03 PM #68
Petrie's Oot
When Petrie went I thought I'd be happy as I never waivered in my dislike of the 'tache. I am not sure about the new guy but will give him my backing in the short term.
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15-07-2019 10:35 AM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
One of the biggest community contributions is the leith links season ticket stuff which is fan led and fan funded.
"Come on in children to our wonderful community club were we'll charge a tenner for a glorified freindly and 3 quid for a capri sun that costs 50p doon the road".
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15-07-2019 10:38 AM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think there’s also community football on offer at East Mains through the season etc.
Selectively picking bits of information the chin the club about isn’t fair, imho.
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15-07-2019 11:49 AM #71This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Hibs (like all clubs, tbf) charge for kids summer football. Of course we are a business, but we can always do more.
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15-07-2019 11:54 AM #72This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We will not challenge Aberdeen or Celtic or Rangers with the current level of player we are bringing to the club..anyone who believes we will is deluded. To be fair Ron has said we would challenge further up the league in time so maybe he expects a few lower finishes while we embark on yet more infrastructure spending. I actually feel quite downbeat about the next couple of season tbh.
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15-07-2019 12:00 PM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-07-2019 02:54 PM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He's paid a few million for the club only to find out that the cub has a few million in the bank anyways.
Basically he got us for nowt and now wants us to pony up more!
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15-07-2019 03:31 PM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-07-2019 03:53 PM #78This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And there's nae truth whatsoever in it.
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15-07-2019 04:59 PM #79
My first two sentences were 100% accurate! ;)
(Can’t do proper smilies from the phone, sorry!)
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15-07-2019 05:15 PM #80This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-07-2019 05:52 PM #81This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Used to be open to all Hibs Kids, nowadays it discriminates against Hibs daft children from families who perhaps can't afford the mascot package. I don't like it.''It's always been just part of the culture. Growing up, for most working-class kids, is all about football, music or clothes. You might not have much money, but whatever you have got, you're going to look good.'' - Paul Weller
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15-07-2019 06:53 PM #82This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But we also have to be aware that we play in a competitive sport set up and the fans, to a greater or lesser extent, demand at least relative sporting success in order to maintain their interest levels.
That sporting success comes at a cost, we have to spend at least as much as our rivals - and more than most.
Where does that money come from?
A constant mantra from the fans is that the club is more than the possession of its titular owner, Sir Tom and Rod understood that I think, and always had one eye on their legacy - who is to say Ron won't be the same? We simply don't know his motives at this point.
But again we hear the call that this or that is too expensive and the club expects the fans to fork out (or pony up) too much.
So how do we square this circle? The club is the fans, the fans are the club. But the fans shouldn't have to pay for it.
Maybe Ron intends to fund the gap from his own pocket. Great if he does. But why should he? And if he does are those who shout loudest that the fans are the true custodians of Hibs going to pipe down and let Hibs be his play thing? He would have bought and paid for us after all.
Personally I would love to see Hibs really expand the fan and community aspects of the club. I'd like to see subsidised tickets for those less fortunate. I'd like all kids tickets to be free, I'd like the mascot packages to be free, I'd love there to be free sports education, summer schools, fitness programmes, a fully paid for professional woman's team. I'd like Easter Road and Hibs to be a hub of the community.
And I can already hear the howls of protest from those that see every penny spent on things like that as a penny stolen from the managers playing fund.
Maybe Ron can fund that difference. It would be great if he could. But again why should he?
Maybe we the community should fund it. Maybe that could be the new purpose of HSL, a fund to run the community side of the club, paid for by those fans who can afford it, voluntarily, and each according yo what they personally feel they can contribute.
That would be my goal if I won the lottery and bought over Hibs.
But I doubt Ron thinks the same.
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15-07-2019 08:30 PM #83
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In terms of the other points in an ideal world I'd agree with you. We don't live in an ideal world though and the standard in the SPL is already awful imo. If we cut back on the first team budget to pay for these things the type of players we could attract would likely lead to dropped revenue due to poorer performance. Then everyone loses out.
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16-07-2019 09:16 AM #84This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-07-2019 09:19 AM #85
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16-07-2019 10:10 AM #87
Plans to build the indoor facility and arranging the finance, has been something that’s been in place for sometime - long before RG arrived.
There’s definitely some mutually beneficial arrangement to exploit here, whereby the community foundation, in its capacity as a charity and community football club, unlocks grants/funding form other parties/bodies.
Hibs have always been keen to highlight that the Community Foundation operates completely independently from the football club - The ladies team effectively had to rent Easter Road from the football club when the European game against Bayern was played - but I think STF, RP and LD have been good at maximising the benefit that the Community Foundation can bring to the Football Club - when it suits.
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16-07-2019 10:18 AM #88
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16-07-2019 10:22 AM #89
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Didn’t STF originally buy the whole area and sold part to the Football Club? I suspect that the “additional” land that RG Bought was the part still owned by STF.
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