Dylan McGeouch to Aberdeen?

***greenlex*** · 14-07-2019 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by S4uzee

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Did he not say that McGeouch was a player that we looked at but not interested?

Very concerning if he doesn’t want McGeouch but delighted to get James and newell in

He said that before the Ojo was kyboshed. Might be back looking at him again.

**Sir David Gray** · 14-07-2019 08:25 AM

I've no idea if McGeouch is a serious option or not but if he is we should be doing everything we can to make it happen.

Taking the emotional side of things out of it for a second with all the legend/Scottish Cup stuff (which is true but isn't a reason in itself for bringing back a former player) he is genuinely one of the best players I've watched at Hibs.

He oozed class in the majority of games he played for us and was an absolute pleasure to watch. I'd love to see him back with us and I'd be disappointed if the management and recruitment teams aren't doing everything possible to make it happen.

***jeffers*** · 14-07-2019 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Centre Hawf

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We constantly hear stories about how Hearts spend silly money on a Naismith or someone else, usually they have a massive impact in their team and their season as a whole.

Aberdeen consistently for the last 6/7 years have spent more than us for the star signings they want, which we're usually also linked with, and again they tend to have massive impacts on their season which includes finishing above us and beating us in a Semi Final of the Scottish Cup.

I'd LOVE it if we just finally broke the purse strings a bit and signed a player on what would be above our wage packet and got a player in. Especially if they're someone like Dylan who will no doubt be a huge player for us.

There comes a point where you have to speculate to accumulate and we need to knock down the door to get into the top 3 or else we'll be a mid table club again for years until the next golden generation or Stubbs' Squad comes along for the fleeting 18 month/2 year where we might win a trophy or get far into Europe.

And if we do that and the player misses a large part of the season through injury, what then ?

***Winston Ingram*** · 14-07-2019 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Steve20

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Probably more likely that they get both.

“An offer he couldn’t refuse” getting used for Aberdeen taking our first choice target. Basically we wouldn’t match them. Are we happy to just accept them being a bigger club than us? I have no doubt if we go head to head for Dylan too that they will make the better offer.

Time Hibs decided if we want to make an impact in this league or just exist and do nothing.

Aberdeen have some idiot millionaire pumping his own cash into them.

We don’t have a millionaire who’s prepared to do that so unless we have a death wish, it isn’t going happen and rightly so.

I don’t think them having a millionaire backer makes them bigger than us. It just means they have a millionaire. We averaged 3k more in attendance and are already 3k ahead of them in ST sales.

**~~The 90+2~~** · 14-07-2019 11:36 AM

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Aberdeen have some idiot millionaire pumping his own cash into them.

We don’t have a millionaire who’s prepared to do that so unless we have a death wish, it isn’t going happen and rightly so.

I don’t think them having a millionaire backer makes them bigger than us. It just means they have a millionaire. We averaged 3k more in attendance and are already 3k ahead of them in ST sales.

They also have sponsorship, which helps, obviously.

***weecounty hibby*** · 14-07-2019 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by 90+2

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They also have sponsorship, which helps, obviously.

We have 3,000 more fans per week than them which helps, obviously. The main reason as pointed out to you above is the millionaire benefactor handing them cash. We don't have that so we won't put ourselves at risk. I have said it already today, their strategy is not a long term one. For evidence of it not working see what happened at Gretna, Motherwell X 2, Dundee, Hearts, Dundee Utd for examples of what happens when owners plough money in and then stip

**marinello59** · 14-07-2019 11:49 AM

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Aberdeen have some idiot millionaire pumping his own cash into them.

We don’t have a millionaire who’s prepared to do that so unless we have a death wish, it isn’t going happen and rightly so.

I don’t think them having a millionaire backer makes them bigger than us. It just means they have a millionaire. We averaged 3k more in attendance and are already 3k ahead of them in ST sales.

We aren’t talking about a Russian oligarch here though, his pockets aren’t that deep.

In order to attract a significantly better player than clubs like Hibs and Aberdeen can currently afford would take a massive amount of extra dosh. If we buy smart we should be able to counter any small financial advantage they have.

**Centre Hawf** · 14-07-2019 12:05 PM

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And if we do that and the player misses a large part of the season through injury, what then ?

Thank god you're allowed to sign more than one player.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 14-07-2019 12:22 PM

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And if we do that and the player misses a large part of the season through injury, what then ?

What if he scores the goal that gets us into Europe, or the winner in the Scottish cup final?

**SideBurns** · 14-07-2019 12:22 PM

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We aren’t talking about a Russian oligarch here though, his pockets aren’t that deep.

In order to attract a significantly better player than clubs like Hibs and Aberdeen can currently afford would take a massive amount of extra dosh. If we buy smart we should be able to counter any small financial advantage they have.

If it's true that Gordon is focussed on investment in the Academy, then that is good news. Whatever the relative financial positions of Hibs and our nearest competitors, it isn't sustainable for a club of our size to continue trying to build a first team squad just through buying players.

In the last 10 years, i can only think of Porteous coming through the ranks and establishing himself in the first team. Others have came in, showed promise, then faded away to eventually play their football at a lower level. It has been a huge failure at the club in recent times. Hopefully the likes of Murray, Shaw & Campbell will reverse that trend.

**~~The 90+2~~** · 14-07-2019 12:24 PM

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If it's true that Gordon is focussed on investment in the Academy, then that is good news. Whatever the relative financial positions of Hibs and our nearest competitors, it isn't sustainable for a club of our size to continue trying to build a first team squad just through buying players.

In the last 10 years, i can only think of Porteous coming through the ranks and establishing himself in the first team. Others have came in, showed promise, then faded away to eventually play their football at a lower level. It has been a huge failure at the club in recent times. Hopefully the likes of Murray, Shaw & Campbell will reverse that trend.

Wotherspoon has played at the same or higher level since he left.

***jeffers*** · 14-07-2019 12:30 PM

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What if he scores the goal that gets us into Europe, or the winner in the Scottish cup final?

And what if he misses the end of the season and can't play in the final ? I'm not suggesting we shouldn't break the budget for a player we deem worth it (we did it when we brought back Stokes.) I just don't want us to gamble on a player with a history of missing a number of games through injury. Hearts are taking that gamble with Naismith, he was probably their best player when he played, but was out injured for a good part of the season and they were garbage without him.

**SideBurns** · 14-07-2019 12:51 PM

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Wotherspoon has played at the same or higher level since he left.

Forgot about Spoony. Still a poor return on 10 years of youth development (I think Hanlon made his debut in 2008?).

***blackpoolhibs*** · 14-07-2019 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by jeffers

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And what if he misses the end of the season and can't play in the final ? I'm not suggesting we shouldn't break the budget for a player we deem worth it (we did it when we brought back Stokes.) I just don't want us to gamble on a player with a history of missing a number of games through injury. Hearts are taking that gamble with Naismith, he was probably their best player when he played, but was out injured for a good part of the season and they were garbage without him.

We would never sign anyone if we worried about them getting injured?

***jeffers*** · 14-07-2019 01:05 PM

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We would never sign anyone if we worried about them getting injured?

My original reply was to the poster who mentioned McGeouch, but re-reading his he did actually say someone like him, not him specifically. So I'm actually agreeing with both of you

***blackpoolhibs*** · 14-07-2019 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by jeffers

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My original reply was to the poster who mentioned McGeouch, but re-reading his he did actually say someone like him, not him specifically. So I'm actually agreeing with both of you

**FilipinoHibs** · 14-07-2019 01:56 PM

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We aren’t talking about a Russian oligarch here though, his pockets aren’t that deep.

In order to attract a significantly better player than clubs like Hibs and Aberdeen can currently afford would take a massive amount of extra dosh. If we buy smart we should be able to counter any small financial advantage they have.

But not sustainable. A millionaire will only blow so much of his fortune unless he his an idiot. In either case it will eventually stop.

**~~James310~~** · 14-07-2019 02:32 PM

McGeough is wasting his time at Sunderland, he was playing for Scotland 12 months ago and playing some great football. Now he is a bit part player at a League 2 club. I guess the wages help.

**Since90+2** · 14-07-2019 02:39 PM

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McGeough is wasting his time at Sunderland, he was playing for Scotland 12 months ago and playing some great football. Now he is a bit part player at a League 2 club. I guess the wages help.

Sunderland are League 1 not League 2.

**~~James310~~** · 14-07-2019 03:59 PM

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Sunderland are League 1 not League 2.

I am still in old money, yes League 1. Still not a place for someone who was playing international football 12 months ago to be.

***Winston Ingram*** · 14-07-2019 04:03 PM

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We aren’t talking about a Russian oligarch here though, his pockets aren’t that deep.

In order to attract a significantly better player than clubs like Hibs and Aberdeen can currently afford would take a massive amount of extra dosh. If we buy smart we should be able to counter any small financial advantage they have.

I never said they were but it’s enough to put an extra couple of grand a week on what we can afford which is what has made all the difference Ojo’s move.

**~~Iggy Pope~~** · 14-07-2019 08:42 PM

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I am still in old money, yes League 1. Still not a place for someone who was playing international football 12 months ago to be.

League 1 will be packed with internationals of some sort my friend.

**Stokesy's on fire** · 14-07-2019 08:51 PM

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I never said they were but it’s enough to put an extra couple of grand a week on what we can afford which is what has made all the difference Ojo’s move.

They wanted Scott Allan remember...and we got him because we paid enough to convince him Hibernian was the place to be.

**~~Here’s Lucy!~~** · 14-07-2019 09:28 PM

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They wanted Scott Allan remember...and we got him because we paid enough to convince him Hibernian was the place to be.

Wrong!

Scotty came back, not just for the money, but because he knew home is where the heart is.

If we had to entice a player financially, like Aberdeen have just done with Judas, then imo, we are better off without that player.

***Winston Ingram*** · 14-07-2019 09:41 PM

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They wanted Scott Allan remember...and we got him because we paid enough to convince him Hibernian was the place to be.

Did they?

Even if they did how do you know what we offered and what they offered?

And with Allan you’re comparing apples with oranges. It’s a completely different situation. Allan has only ever really done well at one club and that’s here. He needs to get his career back on track. Ojo did well at S****horpe and was weighing up offers. He had zero connection with either club and went for the most money.