Despite Dempster’s insistence that Oli Shaw is ‘one of the best young players in Europe’, I can’t help but feel he would seriously benefit from a loan move away from the club (Possibly Championship) in order to aid in his development.
By no means is this opinion solely based on his performance tonight.
Surely I can’t be the only one that thinks this? 🤔
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03-07-2019 08:50 PM #1
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03-07-2019 08:52 PM #2
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We don’t have enough strikers to do so at the moment.
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03-07-2019 08:53 PM #3
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Lol if its by no means solely based on his performance tonight , did it not occur to you to state this and start a thread re Shaw before the game ?
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03-07-2019 08:55 PM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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03-07-2019 08:56 PM #6
He's still young and can improve but he needs to do it fast. Maybe playing every week against championship defenders would do him good.
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03-07-2019 09:00 PM #8
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It’s clear too see that Shaw has a lot of qualities but he’s still very ‘raw’ which is only natural for a player of his age. This wasn’t created to bash the guy, he obviously has potential. It’s only an opinion at the end of the day.
And a number of his performances last season as well as tonight have contributed to this opinion. Hence the ‘no means solely based on tonight’ comment.
I’ll make sure to check with you first in future Jimbo 😂
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03-07-2019 09:02 PM #9
All his best form for Hibs came before Heckingbottom came in, that may be confidence or the system we played, whatever the reason Heckingbottom has to be having concerns about going into next season relying on him, even as an option to come off the bench.
Imo Shaw needs a good Pre-season to prove to Heckers he can rely on him, not been a great start to that by the sounds of it.Last edited by bingo70; 03-07-2019 at 09:09 PM.
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03-07-2019 09:03 PM #10
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As long as we can get another couple forwards in i think a loan out to an upper championship team and games every week for the first half of this season would do him the world of good.
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03-07-2019 09:05 PM #11
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I want to see him do well, I really do.
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03-07-2019 09:06 PM #12
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03-07-2019 09:10 PM #14
Didn’t see game tonight. But if we want best of the rest, oil shaw shouldn’t be the striker. Nothing against the boy but needs a year away to toughen up imo.
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03-07-2019 09:17 PM #15
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Have never understood how it improves a player to go and play with poorer players instead of competing with players at a higher level.
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03-07-2019 09:19 PM #16
I don’t think Shaw has improved any since he broke into the first team maybe playing every week will do him the world of good. You will always compare him to Riordan, O’Conner and Cummings who improved with age.
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03-07-2019 09:19 PM #17
He did a lot well tonight.
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03-07-2019 09:21 PM #18
I think Oli will make it at hibs and as a back up 3rd or 4th striker for this season we’ll struggle to get better. That being said I don’t think another season of him sitting on the bench will allow him to progress for me, I think we should loan him out to a livi, st mirren etc or a top end champ team where they can guarantee him game time and only initially until January. Obviously only if we sign a striker, loaning until jan would let us get him back in if we’re short due to injury or form of other strikers and also if he’s bang in form he’s back with us firing.
Edit. He scored one less as mcnulty scored on the last dayLast edited by DTS; 03-07-2019 at 09:35 PM.
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From the squads perspective I don’t think he’s good enough and I don’t see anyone buying him, he has a contract though so we need to honour it, sending him out on loan is the most likely way to create a space in our squad for someone who will hopefully make more of an impact in the first team.
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03-07-2019 09:23 PM #20
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Good on you for being there.
I will have to take your word for it as I didn’t travel.
He must have improved from last season for you to be saying this.
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03-07-2019 09:25 PM #21
I find Shaw a strange one.
When he initially appeared in the 1st team I thought he was a finisher but didn't offer much else, perhaps understandable at his age. Then towards the end of last season he made a couple of appearances and looked more involved and lively than ever but his predatory instinct seemed to have deserted him, he was hesitant in front of goal and missed a few chances I would have expected him to bury. I've only spoken to a couple of people who were at the game tonight but both said Shaw looked decent on the ball but missed a really good chance. I'm not sure if that's progress and the finishing will return or cause for concern.
Either way I don't see Shaw going on loan as being beneficial to anyone in terms of developmemt. He's at an age now where he needs to be knocking on the door at Hibs and contributing when he gets a chance. If he goes now then it's creating space and buying time imo.
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03-07-2019 09:27 PM #22
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03-07-2019 09:28 PM #23
Also, Oli shaw scored the same amount of league goals as Mark mcnulty in significantly less game time last season, food for thought. He scored winning goals against st mirren and Hamilton and also rescued us a point against st Johnstone, Dundee and st mirren. All these games bar St J during a period of when we were rotten yet he doesn’t seem to get the same “ he had poor service” excuse that mcnulty and kamberi regularly get.
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03-07-2019 09:33 PM #25This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He can score goals though. Yes, he needs to improve aspects of his game, but he’s already shown he’s got the key asset as a striker.
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03-07-2019 09:37 PM #27
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03-07-2019 09:37 PM #28
I like him. He’s still young, he’s still got to improve but he’s def got potential.
If he’s not going to get games. If we’re going to sign another striker, then he prob should go out on loan.
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03-07-2019 09:38 PM #29
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