Only by people who are prepared to ignore important details and try and frame his tenure to fit their own argument. Those who take a more balanced view will disagree.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
FWIW he's gone, it definitely seems like it's for the best, and I care not one bit what he does at Celtic. But he gave me some of my most favourite times as a Hibs supporter, and I'm grateful for that.
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Thread: When Burke got Kamberid
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25-06-2019 10:28 AM #61
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25-06-2019 10:38 AM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A lot of people on here appear to confuse ‘balanced’ for ‘positive’ and don’t realise that it is perfectly possible to have a completely fair, rational and balanced view on something and still reach a ‘negative’ conclusion.
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25-06-2019 10:49 AM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-06-2019 11:06 AM #64
Oli Burke is pish and from what I seen of him at Celtic, blows my mind that he is a professional footballer
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25-06-2019 11:07 AM #65
Neil Lennon is cut from the same managerial cloth as Terry Butcher with admittedly a bit more tactical nous (but not much). Lennon just managed to keep his winning streak going longer than a few games because as soon as a manager like that starts losing a few games on the bounce they have no idea whatsoever to turn around a slump.
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25-06-2019 11:09 AM #66This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That five month spell in the 17/18 season was fantastic. The rest was absolutely dismal.
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25-06-2019 11:10 AM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'd love to put together a proper argument, but seriously, get to ****.
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25-06-2019 11:10 AM #68
Once again when there's a Lennon thread it's either people who hate or love him. Let's be really honest here and just say he was a decidedly average manger who had a 4 month spell where it just sort of clicked due to the players he had.
Got us promoted by playing dull as dishwater football all bar a couple of games, his players recruitment was in the main very poor, remember the scouting team can only suggest players, the final decision was down to Lennon. Allowed certain favourite players far too much leeway with training etc and lost the core of the senior players due to this and his bully boy style management, training atmosphere was poisonous seemingly with players not enjoying going into training due to the unknown of Lennon's mood swings.
Laid the blame at everyone's feet except his with his bizarre treatment of players, extraordinary team selections and his own weird temperament.
I'm happy he has gone as he just wasn't the model LD and Craig had spoken about, seemingly Lennon approached us about the job as he was never on our radar but due to his reputation it looked a decent option. Heckingbottom like Stubbs is the model we were meant to be going for, young modern up and coming coaches with new ideas, Lennon was not that, he wanted more hands on manager style and not the head coach role, he stepped on too many peoples toes at Hibs, until he over stepped the mark.
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25-06-2019 11:13 AM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
15m x 2 ??
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25-06-2019 11:14 AM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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25-06-2019 11:17 AM #71
That reminds me whatever happened to Shane McGowan?
Started off as good cop bad cop and then became bad cop bad cop
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25-06-2019 11:24 AM #72This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Shudda just kept a winning team
He had to draw a line under a missed penalty at t sheep but didn’t
S*** happens!
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25-06-2019 11:25 AM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
By that January window were in 4th place, where we finished, and had 35 points from 22 games - 1.59 points per game, on track for 60 points. We had also been to a League Cup semi final, scored three goals when beating Rangers at Ibrox in the first game since the cup final, beaten Hearts at home, and won five away games in the league. Our league and cup record up to that point was P 29 W 14 D 9 L 6 F 54 A 35 - we scored 23 goals in the League Cup alone.
Whilst there were a couple of disappointing results in the period, I don't know how anyone couldn't make an assessment that wasn't positive overall about that spell. The second half of the season was even better, and I think that some people have now compartmentalised the first part as 'bad' because it wasn't as good as the superb form in the last 16 games (the reality of course, is that many are just using the excellent spell against him, and are simply claiming that the rest is rubbish in comparison).
The second half of the season was excellent. The first part was good, at the very least. Saying that we huffed and puffed through it is not a balanced assessment of that time. It is far more balanced than other comments describing it as 'dismal' and 'mince' though, I'll give you that.Last edited by Stevie Reid; 25-06-2019 at 12:19 PM.
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25-06-2019 11:27 AM #74
This single transferable thread theme - because that's what it is regardless of the title and intended subject - recurs every time Neil Lennon is discussed.
It's been done to death previously and repeatedly, is never going to reach an agreed conclusion and serves no useful purpose except one - it every so often allows the Lennon-phobes to scratch that itch they are clearly so desperate to get at.
Actually that probably fills some useful psychological purpose.
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25-06-2019 11:28 AM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Jamie MacLaren proved that with confidence, played consistently and getting decent service he scores goals. I honestly don't think Mark McNulty is much better than him, just our quality of supply improved with Heckingbottom coming in.
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25-06-2019 11:32 AM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He was lucky with his penalty at Ibroke sheer power took it over the line
At Tinycastle the camera kept panning to Jamie MAC on the bench
Brandon up front?
Dearie me
People forget that Jamie MAC scored a hatrick versus t Hun to prove Lenny wrong and launch the aeroplane 😁
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25-06-2019 11:38 AM #78This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Don't think anyone forgets his hatrick. Its only scoring one goal in 6 months after that that bothered people.
Starting Whittaker over Bartley or McGeouch was a big error that night as well.
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25-06-2019 11:40 AM #79
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I see there's been a statement released from the chamber of secrets. Celtic off to an early flyer in the statement table.
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I remember Boyle and Brandon interchanging that night and conspiring to miss any chances that did come their way
Potter and his cronies must have been laughing their socks off when the team lines came in
Their mind games worked
I agree with you over Bartley and Whittaker
Flo and Jamie last year is a mystery
Maybe one day the real story will come out but NDAs have been signed
😁
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I think the hibs.net exaggeration during Lennon's tenure is as much to blame as Lennon himself for the polarised threads we still have on him today. There were literally comments every single week, for a spell, insisting he was the best manager we've ever had and should enjoy him while we can. There were posters put-down for suggesting otherwise.
Lennon did alright. And to begin with he definitely improved my opinion on him as a person.
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25-06-2019 12:01 PM #83
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25-06-2019 12:03 PM #84
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Jessie's / mouse's. Is this type of elaboration good enough?
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25-06-2019 12:06 PM #85
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Interestingly the way we set up at the start of that game is exactly how many people expect us to be, formation-wise, under PH next season. His lineup in the win at Tynie recent was possibly the same formation too?Last edited by Stevie Reid; 25-06-2019 at 12:20 PM.
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25-06-2019 12:19 PM #89
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But I feel most managers loose the top sometimes and players go running to the board etc or the papers or release books after there careers.
Could also say Roy Keane, a mad ******* not a good manager I'm no saying it's the only way to manage a player but it's defo needed and little boys get the hump to easy.
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25-06-2019 12:29 PM #90
Burke should come on loan to us.
He's bumped around big clubs, has moved for a few big transfer fees yet never really played that much football.
Burke would be better served going somewhere where he has a good man manager, a crowd behind him and somewhere where he can play every week to get confidence and experience.
It would never happen, as everyone to do with him and his club will convince him that he needs to be playing at a higher level for a bigger club, even though that will only lead to him playing handfuls of games (most off the bench) and his career dwindling away to nothing (whilst he'll still probably move for a few big transfer fees yet).
The McGinn factor, a player of similar ability. We were the right club for him at that stage in his career.
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