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    NHC St Mirren Manager Sacked?

    Oran Kearney told not to attend the first day of pre-season training.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    Oran Kearney told not to attend the first day of pre-season training.
    Think Jim Goodwin is a certainty for that job.

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    There were strong roumours he'd be going back to Ireland weeks ago. I quite like St Mirren but their owners/board have some mental ideas about where they should be. Top 4 was quoted recently and probably on a shoestring budget.
    Last edited by Since452; 23-06-2019 at 05:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    Oran Kearney told not to attend the first day of pre-season training.
    I think the euphemism is "gardening leave".

    It was rumoured earlier that Kearney was unhappy about aspects of the plans for next season, so not a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    There were strong roumours he'd be going back to Ireland weeks ago. I quite like like St Mirren but their owners/board have some mental ideas about where they should be. Top 4 was quoted recently and probably on a shoestring budget.
    Tony Fitzpatrick seems to be a bit too, ahem, hands-on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloryGlory View Post
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    I think the euphemism is "gardening leave".

    It was rumoured earlier that Kearney was unhappy about aspects of the plans for next season, so not a surprise.


    I read that he has been commuting from Ireland and the board wanted him to move over (not really a surprising demand).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gloryhunter View Post
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    I read that he has been commuting from Ireland and the board wanted him to move over (not really a surprising demand).
    Difference does it make certainly didnít hinder him so far in the job the guy has worked wonders. Another basket case by the sounds of Vladimir Fitzpatrick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    There were strong roumours he'd be going back to Ireland weeks ago. I quite like St Mirren but their owners/board have some mental ideas about where they should be. Top 4 was quoted recently and probably on a shoestring budget.
    By whom? That's a crazy idea for a club of their size. Ambition is great, but it has to be sustainable - see Gretna.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    By whom? That's a crazy idea for a club of their size. Ambition is great, but it has to be sustainable - see Gretna.
    Fitzpatrick. Sure he said something similar when they were promoted and almost went straight back down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    There were strong roumours he'd be going back to Ireland weeks ago. I quite like St Mirren but their owners/board have some mental ideas about where they should be. Top 4 was quoted recently and probably on a shoestring budget.
    If they are looking at Kilmarnock as a role model then why not aim for top 4? Their average attendances are less than Kilmarnock but not by a huge amount and they would likely easily make up the difference if they had a spell of success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gloryhunter View Post
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    I read that he has been commuting from Ireland and the board wanted him to move over (not really a surprising demand).
    Something that should have been sorted out before offering him the job. Even if he was to commute until the end of the season with a view to moving in the summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    If they are looking at Kilmarnock as a role model then why not aim for top 4? Their average attendances are less than Kilmarnock but not by a huge amount and they would likely easily make up the difference if they had a spell of success.
    That's a fair point in relation to Killie, but top four for them is the exception to the rule, plus they don't have as much competition for fans from the Old Firm (though Ayrshire is very Hunnish). Paisley is basically a district of Glasgow and St Mirren's fanbase very small. Their potential growth is always going to be small.
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    If they are looking at Kilmarnock as a role model then why not aim for top 4? Their average attendances are less than Kilmarnock but not by a huge amount and they would likely easily make up the difference if they had a spell of success.
    They would need a Steve Clarke type impact for that. Incredibly hard for any club outside Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow to get top 4. What Killie did was phenomenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    They would need a Steve Clarke type impact for that. Incredibly hard for any club outside Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow to get top 4. What Killie did was phenomenal.
    Not disagreeing with you at all, but I don't think it's ridiculous for them to aiming that high....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Not disagreeing with you at all, but I don't think it's ridiculous for them to aiming that high....
    That's fair enough. Personally, I think it's a pipe dream. They might do it one year, as Killie and Motherwell did, but it isn't a long term strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Sauzee View Post
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    Something that should have been sorted out before offering him the job. Even if he was to commute until the end of the season with a view to moving in the summer
    The article suggested that that was indeed the scenario.
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    There was an interview with the chairman on tv recently, can't remember which channel (STV?) and he was adamant top six next season and possibly Europe. Even my wife said what a knob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Not disagreeing with you at all, but I don't think it's ridiculous for them to aiming that high....
    They have no recruitment team, their sports science dept consists of UWS students on placement as part of their studies etc. They're not set up for top 4.

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    The article suggested that that was indeed the scenario.
    If that was the understanding, I'm not sure what St Mirren have done wrong in this case. Bizarre situation to be in

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    They would need a Steve Clarke type impact for that. Incredibly hard for any club outside Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow to get top 4. What Killie did was phenomenal.
    Got to disagree. Glasgow, Leith and Aberdeen to get top 4 between them. Edinburgh to miss out on top 6😎

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    Is Stewart Gilmour still involved at st.mirren? Now there's a proper fanny. St.mirren are a bottom 6 club and they may have the odd season they break into the top 6 but for Fitzpatrick to claim they were targeting top 4 in their first season in the premiership is as ludicrous as anything I've heard since romanov was targeting winning the champions league.

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    In his TV interview after the play off final he didn't sound over-convinced that he'd be in Paisley next season. He was being linked at that time with one of the NI clubs - think it was Coleraine. Maybe no great surprise in that context.

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    I heard Tony Fitzpatrick interviewed on the radio a few times last season and he's clearly wired to the moon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HFC93 View Post
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    I heard Tony Fitzpatrick intervied on the radio a few time last season and he's clearly wired to the moon.
    Fitzpatrick was interviewed on TV a number of years ago when he was appointed St. Mirren manager and he said "This is a massive, massive club" ... eh? It's good to be passionate about your team but c'mon!

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    Itís not Fitzpatrick that heís had the apparent falling out with, itís the chairman.

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    Difference does it make certainly didnít hinder him so far in the job the guy has worked wonders. Another basket case by the sounds of Vladimir Fitzpatrick
    I wouldn't say he worked wonders , had plenty time with the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenfly View Post
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    Fitzpatrick was interviewed on TV a number of years ago when he was appointed St. Mirren manager and he said "This is a massive, massive club" ... eh? It's good to be passionate about your team but c'mon!
    I know its a while ago now but when St.Mirren won the Scottish cup, their fans fairly outnumbered the Dundee United support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenfly View Post
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    Fitzpatrick was interviewed on TV a number of years ago when he was appointed St. Mirren manager and he said "This is a massive, massive club" ... eh? It's good to be passionate about your team but c'mon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by percy veer View Post
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    I wouldn't say he worked wonders , had plenty time with the squad.
    You tell me anyone who thought they would stay up and Iíd call you a lier, they were doomed when he took over they had a cracking run end of season

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    Posted this on the transfer thread last week. Heís a gone-er.

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