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    The Eagles and David Bowie managed to survive the onslaught!

    Let's face it - it's all about shifting product and the Sex Pistols did their bit but ultimately didn't have much talent.
    But enough talent to write a pivotal album .


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    The Eagles and David Bowie managed to survive the onslaught!

    Let's face it - it's all about shifting product and the Sex Pistols did their bit but ultimately didn't have much talent.
    The sex pistols were far more talented than they were ever given credit for. Steve Jones is an exceptional guitar player (and bass player on never mind the bollocks) lydon a brilliant lyricist and front man. Matlock and Cooke were an excellent rhythm section.

    The only one lacking talent was sid vicious but the by the time he had been brought in the band had self combusted due to the pressure of the grundy aftermath.


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    The sex pistols were far more talented than they were ever given credit for. Steve Jones is an exceptional guitar player (and bass player on never mind the bollocks) lydon a brilliant lyricist and front man. Matlock and Cooke were an excellent rhythm section.

    The only one lacking talent was sid vicious but the by the time he had been brought in the band had self combusted due to the pressure of the grundy aftermath.


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    Glen Matlock is a great musician and a lovely person. I worked with a lot of punk bands in the 90s and there are many characters but Glen was a real gent. Jones and Cooke were fun but unfortunately Lydon was a prick backstage at a Pistols gig. I left when he came in slagging everyone off.
    Biggest gent of all? Charlie Harper, absolute legend. Wattle was ok for a jambo

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    I was a bit young for the first wave but grew up on 2nd wave bands which were a bit more political and down to earth than the art school types involved in first wave. Met quite a few folk from bands over the years like Mensi from the Angelic Upstartss, Wattie Buchan from the exploited, Gene October from Chelsea, Mad Muffett from Slaughter and the Dogs. and had some great laughs at many, many punk gigs. Also met a few complete bell ends like Nick Cash from 999 and Max Splodge.

    Its such a broad spectrum of music that has diversified and evolved over the years that there are so many bands that are worth listening to.

    From the first wave of UK Bands i would suggest listening to:

    - Slaughter and the Dogs - "Do it dog style"
    - 999 - "999"
    - X-Ray spex - "germ free adolescents"
    - Vibrators - "pure mania"
    - Stiff Little Fingers - "Inflammable Material"
    - UK Subs - "another kind of blues"
    - Chelsea - "Chelsea"

    From American Early Stuff

    - Ramones - "Ramones", "Leave Home" adn "Rocket to Russia" are my favourite ones
    - Dictators - "Go Girl Crazy"
    - Dead Boys - "Young Loud & Snotty"
    - Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - "L.A.M.F."
    - Television - "Marquee Moon"


    You could listen to some of the bans that were a pre-cursor to the punk scene that started in USA - MC5, The Stooges and The New York Dolls probably the best of those.

    There are some good second wave uk bands that came out in the 80's including The Adicts, Angelic Upstarts, The Business, Cock Sparrer, Exploited, The Ejected, Abrasive Wheels, The Threats, Menace, GBH. There was also a lot of generic rubbish under the Oi banner being promoted by Garry Bushell at that time which is well worth avoiding and sometimes a bit right wing for my liking.

    There were also some great Anarcho Punk bands around that time like:

    - Conflict
    - Discharge
    - Varukers
    - Sub-Humans
    - Crass
    - Oi Polloi

    A lot of great stuff from the early 80's in theamerican hardcore scene with bands like:

    - Bad Religion
    - Regan Youth
    - Adolescents
    - Gang green
    - Dead kennedys
    - DOA
    - Misfits
    - Circle Jerks
    - Black Flag
    - Minor Threat
    - Bad Brains
    - Beastie Boys (from the early 80's)
    - Germs

    of the above Black Flag and the Dead Kennedy's are the stand outs.

    i stopped collecting records as much towards 2000, so i caught a lot of the re-emergence of american punk in the early 90's onwards with bands like Rancid, NOFX, Face to Face, Swinging Utters, The Dwarves, Dropkick Murphys, Screeching Weasel, The Descendents..........


    There's a very, very potted history but some stuff in there you might find you like, some you might hate too

    If you want a whole live experience try The Rebellion Festival in Blackpool in August - it pretty much covers the whole spectrum of punk rock over 3 or 4 days. I've not been for a good few years but used to go religously until old age got the better of me

    http://www.rebellionfestivals.com/
    Saw Oi Polloi at a DIY festival in Czech republic about 10/12 years ago (that's worrying).

    Was brilliant. Awesome band. There was another anarcho punk band from Edinburgh who played the same festival, can't remember the name, but the bassist and i had a good chat about Hibs.

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    Glen Matlock is a great musician and a lovely person. I worked with a lot of punk bands in the 90s and there are many characters but Glen was a real gent. Jones and Cooke were fun but unfortunately Lydon was a prick backstage at a Pistols gig. I left when he came in slagging everyone off.
    Biggest gent of all? Charlie Harper, absolute legend. Wattle was ok for a jambo
    Charlie Harper is a great guy. In his 70s and still gigging every week.

    First record I ever bought was tomorrows girls on blue vinyl, at the time it was probably the colour that attracted me to it

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    Charlie Harper is a great guy. In his 70s and still gigging every week.

    First record I ever bought was tomorrows girls on blue vinyl, at the time it was probably the colour that attracted me to it

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    Charlie is the punk rock Keith Richards without the drugs. When I rodied for a support band in Germany we were all heading to town, Charlie just said nah, going for a cuppa in my hotel. Very cool guy.

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    I got lifted along with dozens of young punks back in 1978 after a Clash gig in Glasgow. Was supposed to be the last ever gig at the Appolo. We were about 8 to a cell when word got round that Joe and Paul had also been lifted. We sung 'The Prisoner' over and over for hours and the cops were going crazy. Gor released about 3am. Got a lift back to Queen St from a cell mates brother. Had to kip in the toilets until the first train back to Edinburgh. Was 18 then and am 60 now but a crazy night I will never forget. I met Joe Years later and he remembered that night, he got lifted for dropping a juice bottle wheras I got nicked for 'refusing to move on'. Happy days.
    Here’s Mick Jones’s memory of that great gig:

    Joe was upset about the way the gig had gone because the bouncers had been beating people up.

    "We had been saying, 'They're dancing not fighting' and to leave them alone.

    "When Joe came out the back door, he was so angry he smashed a bottle and was immediately jumped on by plain clothes policemen and he was arrested. Paul jumped in to help Joe and they got him, too.

    "Joe and Paul got arrested and I ran back to the hotel to alert everybody. I was running through the night to warn the rest of the group and crew that the cops were coming.

    "The bouncers were chasing us because they wanted their revenge on the fans. Bobby Gillespie and Alan McGee were at that Apollo gig, too. I didn't meet Bobby but his friends escorted me from the gig to the hotel.

    "Joe and Paul were in the cells overnight. The jail was packed with fans who had been arrested.

    "They were all singing the song, The Prisoner. Despite everything, a lot of people still remember it as a fantastic night and it's one I'll never forgeT”

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    Charlie Harper is a great guy. In his 70s and still gigging every week.

    First record I ever bought was tomorrows girls on blue vinyl, at the time it was probably the colour that attracted me to it

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    Tour dates booked well into 2020!

    https://www.uksubs.co.uk/gigs/

    Can't say they were ever a punk band I especially warmed to but respect is due nonetheless.

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    I have a couple of hundred Sounds & NME's from this era. Anyone want them ?

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    I have a couple of hundred Sounds & NME's from this era. Anyone want them ?
    I've probably still got a fair few of them too, yellowing away in a cupboard somewhere. A very different era when those papers were THE place to dig out information on your favourite band.

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