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    Rocky punching above his weight?

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...club-1-4942284

    Best keeper I've seen in hibs shirt by far and I understand its a short career and all that but is this slightly disrespectful?

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    As long as he understands that if clubs don't meet our asking price we won't sell.

    Get a good fee for him, spend some of it on Bogdan and keep the rest for more players. Win-win.

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    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...club-1-4942284

    Best keeper I've seen in hibs shirt by far and I understand its a short career and all that but is this slightly disrespectful?
    I imagine theres probably a bit more context to his quotes from his perspective. "Moving forward" seems to mean improving as he's mentioned it a few times in the context of getting better and having good seasons. But he did outright say he looks forward to bigger clubs which I don't really mind because he is 29 and although goalkeepers do last a lot longer he's at the age where it would be right for him to try his hand down south and could be a good keeper for a Derby or Leeds etc.

    If he stays great, if he goes then good luck to him and I hope we get a good fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoPennyPrince View Post
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    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...club-1-4942284

    Best keeper I've seen in hibs shirt by far and I understand its a short career and all that but is this slightly disrespectful?
    No..its a career move. Hibs aren't the biggest team around so he's said nowt wrong

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    I think we only "own" 50% of Rocky.
    I'm sure the deal was constructed in a way that some agency, or even his former club, retain 50% ownership. It was the only way we could do the deal to bring him to Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edina Erin View Post
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    I think we only "own" 50% of Rocky.
    I'm sure the deal was constructed in a way that some agency, or even his former club, retain 50% ownership. It was the only way we could do the deal to bring him to Hibs.
    Part-ownership of players is against Association rules. What we apparently have is a sell-on clause where 50% of any fee received will be passed on to his previous club.

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    “I’m healthy, and I finished well, personally, I want to concentrate on the team and there are those who take care of it ... I’m looking forward to moving on to bigger clubs. It gives you a good feeling, you work hard and such interest is an appreciation for yourself, it’s good.”

    Disrespectful IMO.

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    “I’m healthy, and I finished well, personally, I want to concentrate on the team and there are those who take care of it ... I’m looking forward to moving on to bigger clubs. It gives you a good feeling, you work hard and such interest is an appreciation for yourself, it’s good.”

    Disrespectful IMO.
    Which part? I can't see any problem whatsoever with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obscene Omeonga View Post
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    “I’m healthy, and I finished well, personally, I want to concentrate on the team and there are those who take care of it ... I’m looking forward to moving on to bigger clubs. It gives you a good feeling, you work hard and such interest is an appreciation for yourself, it’s good.”

    Disrespectful IMO.
    the "I'm looking forward..." can be construed in a way that means "of course, like all players I am ambitious to play at the highest level I can..."

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    Part-ownership of players is against Association rules. What we apparently have is a sell-on clause where 50% of any fee received will be passed on to his previous club.
    I remember the deal being less than straightforward. The owner of the club in Israel was in jail and Hibs could only deal with him on Sunday, when he got his weekly telephone time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edina Erin View Post
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    I think we only "own" 50% of Rocky.
    I'm sure the deal was constructed in a way that some agency, or even his former club, retain 50% ownership. It was the only way we could do the deal to bring him to Hibs.
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    Part-ownership of players is against Association rules. What we apparently have is a sell-on clause where 50% of any fee received will be passed on to his previous club.
    The selling club have a 50% sell on clause.

    United we stand here....

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    Rocky has been excellent for us, he's well capable of earning more and playing at a higher level so I wouldn't grudge him his move if it came about, so long as we get good value for him.
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    Not in any way, shape or form.

    IF the comments quoted are correct then look at things from his perspective:

    Came on loan initially to us the signed a loan term deal to probably showcase his skills on a British platform. He’s been here three years and has came off his best and most consistent half season, his stock has never been higher and may never get a better chance at this stage of his career to make that one career defining move to make sure his family at comfortable for the rest of his life. I have no problem with the comments, it’s not exactly a Keef Jackshun exclusive either it’s a piece to his national magazine presumably while on international duty. We’ve had good service from him and the arrangement suited all parties.

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    I'm always wary about lending weight to selective quotes from part of a longer interview that can easily look bad taken out of context.

    I've been on the receiving end of such an occurence before and it isn't nice at all. A perfectly innocent remark can be totally misconstrued unfairly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoPennyPrince View Post
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    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...club-1-4942284

    Best keeper I've seen in hibs shirt by far and I understand its a short career and all that but is this slightly disrespectful?
    I've seen Goram, Leighton, Roughie, and Heriot in a Hibs shirt.

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    I've seen Goram, Leighton, Roughie, and Heriot in a Hibs shirt.
    I've seen Brown, Zibby, Ma-Kalambay and McNeil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingHibs View Post
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    I've seen Goram, Leighton, Roughie, and Heriot in a Hibs shirt.
    I've seen Goram, Leighton ad Rough and on current form Rocky comes second behind Goram. He'd have to keep that form up over two or three seasons to cement his place in the Hibees pantheon of keepers though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingHibs View Post
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    I've seen Goram, Leighton, Roughie, and Heriot in a Hibs shirt.
    What aboot Budgie

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingHibs View Post
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    I've seen Goram, Leighton, Roughie, and Heriot in a Hibs shirt.
    What aboot Budgie & Jim Mcarthur

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorgiegreens View Post
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    What aboot Budgie & Jim Mcarthur
    I saw Conrad Logan

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    Absolutely nothing wrong with Rocky having ambitions beyond Hibs. In my opinion he could hold his own in some of the top leagues around Europe.

    Absolutely nobody gave Mcginn any stick for stating he was ambitious beyond Hibs. Shouldn’t apply here either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSwirlingShip View Post
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    Absolutely nothing wrong with Rocky having ambitions beyond Hibs. In my opinion he could hold his own in some of the top leagues around Europe.

    Absolutely nobody gave Mcginn any stick for stating he was ambitious beyond Hibs. Shouldn’t apply here either.
    They never mouthed off in the papers about it. They showed respect. It's an agent planted story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingHibs View Post
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    They never mouthed off in the papers about it. They showed respect. It's an agent planted story.
    Can’t see much difference in the two stories tbh, one has been translated from a different language though.https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-now-1-4728835

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    I'd also like to hear the actual interview - the EEN isn't exactly pro-Hibs and I'd bet there's more than one or two 'out of context' remarks in it !

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    Fair enough to him, but what happened to him being settled in Edinburgh? Perhaps wants to go West or to north England I suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1van Sprou7e View Post
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    Fair enough to him, but what happened to him being settled in Edinburgh? Perhaps wants to go West or to north England I suppose
    Celtic.

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    Celtic.
    This is going to be our next battle with Lennon, and that particular club.

    Fortunately we can have faith that our club will not sell us short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    This is going to be our next battle with Lennon, and that particular club.

    Fortunately we can have faith that our club will not sell us short.
    Yep. Although they know how to use the media to make it out like we are denying his dream move, unhappy etc etc while trying to take him on the cheap. Any clause in his contract etc Lennon will be more than aware of though. It may also be he wants to make his club back him some good money for being easy to deal with previously.

    He seems a good guy, I don’t think we will have a toys out the Oran scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Celtic.
    To go and sit on the bench? Ambitious.

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    Thought this would be a thread about Shelly Marciano

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