England fans, same old same old.

***Hibrandenburg*** · 06-06-2019 10:56 AM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/06/05/england-fans-clash-portuguese-police-fas-fears-trouble-ahead/

On D-Day of all days. Embarrassing.

"There were familiar songs about the RAF and German bombers and bottles thrown in the direction of the PSP officers in full riot gear".

**Smartie** · 06-06-2019 10:59 AM

The trouble has been acknowledged and condemned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48538731

The phrase "a minority" is in there, but it's good that the FA and supporters groups are up for calling these idiots out.

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 06-06-2019 11:05 AM

Sadly predictable. The lunatic/far right hooligan element which still attaches itself to the England national team doesn't seem as strong as it once was, but hasn't been completely eradicated.

**iwasthere1972** · 06-06-2019 11:19 AM

Kick them out of the next tournament that they qualify for (Euro 2020) and give their place to Scotland.

**Antifa Hibs** · 06-06-2019 11:22 AM

Seems to be an increase of the **** the pope chants from England recently. That along with the treatment of James McLean. West coast of Scotland problem though eh

**JeMeSouviens** · 06-06-2019 12:15 PM

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Seems to be an increase of the **** the pope chants from England recently. That along with the treat of James McLean. West coast of Scotland problem though eh

Long term links between the English far right and Ulster loyalists.

**Cardinal G** · 06-06-2019 12:41 PM

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Seems to be an increase of the **** the pope chants from England recently. That along with the treatment of James McLean. West coast of Scotland problem though eh

Sadly your right, #### the pope is creeping in more and more, attending many Sunderland away games I am hearing it more and more, I challenge when I can and in the main they naively don't realise what they are singing. As for James McLean he is vilified by many fans, doesn't help himself sometimes but the abuse he gets isn't right.

**StevesFamau5** · 06-06-2019 01:20 PM

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Kick them out of the next tournament that they qualify for (Euro 2020) and give their place to Scotland.

So Scotland can embarrass us all with their tartan army jovial good guy bull**** while the team fails miserably again?

I'm in for that..

**Smartie** · 06-06-2019 01:31 PM

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So Scotland can embarrass us all with their tartan army jovial good guy bull**** while the team fails miserably again?

I'm in for that..

Me too, it would be amazing.

The garden furniture will have to throw itself around.

***The Modfather*** · 06-06-2019 01:33 PM

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So Scotland can embarrass us all with their tartan army jovial good guy bull**** while the team fails miserably again?

I'm in for that..

Never understood this attitude. On a thread discussing England “fans” bad behaviour you have a go at the TA for continue to follow the team when they are poor while behaving ourselves..

I’ve spent thousands of pounds following Scotland over the years and, just like I don’t allow a Hibs defeat to ruin my weekend, why shouldn’t I make the most of my trip and enjoy seeing the world win, lose or draw?

***Diclonius*** · 06-06-2019 02:34 PM

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Sadly predictable. The lunatic/far right hooligan element which still attaches itself to the England national team doesn't seem as strong as it once was, but hasn't been completely eradicated.

Brexit will have reinvigorated it.

***The Modfather*** · 06-06-2019 11:13 AM

I forget which tournament it was, possibly the Euros in France, but bumped into a few England fans and had a few beers with them. They were good guys and couldn’t help but feel sorry for them. They were saying they don’t wear England colours because of the perception of the fans and try to stay away from the actual venues until as late as possible because the drunken moron element invariably ruin it for everyone.

**roc1** · 06-06-2019 12:14 PM

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I forget which tournament it was, possibly the Euros in France, but bumped into a few England fans and had a few beers with them. They were good guys and couldn’t help but feel sorry for them. They were saying they don’t wear England colours because of the perception of the fans and try to stay away from the actual venues until as late as possible because the drunken moron element invariably ruin it for everyone.

Way back in 1990 at Italy World Cup we met a few English guys on train before Sweden match. Good guys who wouldn’t follow England in the competition because of the so called “fans”
They even sold me a ticket for the game 😁

**Pretty Boy** · 06-06-2019 11:29 AM

I know a couple of guys who followed England away for years. Good guys who like a beer, a bit banter and are, to put it politely, men of the world.

Neither bother these days after the trouble in France at the Euros. They travelled to Marseille for the game at which there was the big bother and whilst they argued England fans were largely the victims in and around the ground they both said the behaviour of some England fans travelling to the game was a disgrace.

It may be a minority but it's a vocal and prominent one.

***Benny Brazil*** · 06-06-2019 11:40 AM

I caught a bit of TalkSport Drive yesterday and they had a caller on from Glasgow - a Hun - who was defending the English fans singing about the IRA and the Pope and the German bombers song saying it was just banter and showing "patriotism" - shouldn't be surprised but he then started referring to the England fans as "us / we"

***MrSmith*** · 06-06-2019 12:12 PM

It is a shame for the ordinary fan. My two brother in-laws & sister in-law, are Newcastle and England fans, great guys and love the footy not the shame. Was on holiday in Madeira with them during the world cup last year, what a laugh we had and I genuinely felt their disappointment however, they were delighted with their teams effort.

**hibbydog** · 06-06-2019 05:59 PM

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It is a shame for the ordinary fan. My two brother in-laws & sister in-law, are Newcastle and England fans, great guys and love the footy not the shame. Was on holiday in Madeira with them during the world cup last year, what a laugh we had and I genuinely felt their disappointment however, they were delighted with their teams effort.

That’s about where I am with it. Shame for the majority. A bit like how Hibs fans felt when one bell end runs on the pitch v Rangers last season.

**StevesFamau5** · 06-06-2019 09:10 PM

Ok so I will apologise to everyone on here for my **** chat. I have a massive chip on my shoulder with Scotland fans. It's my problem so I'll accept it. Sorry for any pish chat.

***Hermit Crab*** · 06-06-2019 09:11 PM

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Ok so I will apologise to everyone on here for my **** chat. I have a massive chip on my shoulder with Scotland fans. It's my problem so I'll accept it. Sorry for any pish chat.

What a strange post!