England fans, same old same old.

[Hibrandenburg]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/06/05/england-fans-clash-portuguese-police-fas-fears-trouble-ahead/


On D-Day of all days. Embarrassing.

"There were familiar songs about the RAF and German bombers and bottles thrown in the direction of the PSP officers in full riot gear".

[Smartie]

The trouble has been acknowledged and condemned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48538731

The phrase "a minority" is in there, but it's good that the FA and supporters groups are up for calling these idiots out.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Sadly predictable. The lunatic/far right hooligan element which still attaches itself to the England national team doesn't seem as strong as it once was, but hasn't been completely eradicated.

[The Modfather]

I forget which tournament it was, possibly the Euros in France, but bumped into a few England fans and had a few beers with them. They were good guys and couldn’t help but feel sorry for them. They were saying they don’t wear England colours because of the perception of the fans and try to stay away from the actual venues until as late as possible because the drunken moron element invariably ruin it for everyone.

[iwasthere1972]

Kick them out of the next tournament that they qualify for (Euro 2020) and give their place to Scotland.

[Antifa Hibs]

Seems to be an increase of the **** the pope chants from England recently. That along with the treatment of James McLean. West coast of Scotland problem though eh

[Pretty Boy]

I know a couple of guys who followed England away for years. Good guys who like a beer, a bit banter and are, to put it politely, men of the world.

Neither bother these days after the trouble in France at the Euros. They travelled to Marseille for the game at which there was the big bother and whilst they argued England fans were largely the victims in and around the ground they both said the behaviour of some England fans travelling to the game was a disgrace.

It may be a minority but it's a vocal and prominent one.

[Benny Brazil]

I caught a bit of TalkSport Drive yesterday and they had a caller on from Glasgow - a Hun - who was defending the English fans singing about the IRA and the Pope and the German bombers song saying it was just banter and showing "patriotism" - shouldn't be surprised but he then started referring to the England fans as "us / we"

[MrSmith]

It is a shame for the ordinary fan. My two brother in-laws & sister in-law, are Newcastle and England fans, great guys and love the footy not the shame. Was on holiday in Madeira with them during the world cup last year, what a laugh we had and I genuinely felt their disappointment however, they were delighted with their teams effort.

[roc1]

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I forget which tournament it was, possibly the Euros in France, but bumped into a few England fans and had a few beers with them. They were good guys and couldn’t help but feel sorry for them. They were saying they don’t wear England colours because of the perception of the fans and try to stay away from the actual venues until as late as possible because the drunken moron element invariably ruin it for everyone.

Way back in 1990 at Italy World Cup we met a few English guys on train before Sweden match. Good guys who wouldn’t follow England in the competition because of the so called “fans”
They even sold me a ticket for the game 😁

[JeMeSouviens]

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Seems to be an increase of the **** the pope chants from England recently. That along with the treat of James McLean. West coast of Scotland problem though eh

Long term links between the English far right and Ulster loyalists.

[Codheed]

But , nowhere to be seen in Russia last year for some reason !

[southsider]

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Long term links between the English far right and Ulster loyalists.

On the week the nations of this Island honour those who gave their lives to help defeat the Nazi menace we have English Nazi’s rampaging in Porto. This **** should be taken to the main square and horsewhipped.

[Cardinal G]

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Seems to be an increase of the **** the pope chants from England recently. That along with the treatment of James McLean. West coast of Scotland problem though eh

Sadly your right, #### the pope is creeping in more and more, attending many Sunderland away games I am hearing it more and more, I challenge when I can and in the main they naively don't realise what they are singing. As for James McLean he is vilified by many fans, doesn't help himself sometimes but the abuse he gets isn't right.

[StevesFamau5]

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Kick them out of the next tournament that they qualify for (Euro 2020) and give their place to Scotland.

So Scotland can embarrass us all with their tartan army jovial good guy bull**** while the team fails miserably again?

I'm in for that..

[Smartie]

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So Scotland can embarrass us all with their tartan army jovial good guy bull**** while the team fails miserably again?

I'm in for that..

Me too, it would be amazing.

The garden furniture will have to throw itself around.

[The Modfather]

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So Scotland can embarrass us all with their tartan army jovial good guy bull**** while the team fails miserably again?

I'm in for that..

Never understood this attitude. On a thread discussing England “fans” bad behaviour you have a go at the TA for continue to follow the team when they are poor while behaving ourselves..

I’ve spent thousands of pounds following Scotland over the years and, just like I don’t allow a Hibs defeat to ruin my weekend, why shouldn’t I make the most of my trip and enjoy seeing the world win, lose or draw?

[StevesFamau5]

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Never understood this attitude. On a thread discussing England “fans” bad behaviour you have a go at the TA for continue to follow the team when they are poor while behaving ourselves..

I’ve spent thousands of pounds following Scotland over the years and, just like I don’t allow a Hibs defeat to ruin my weekend, why shouldn’t I make the most of my trip and enjoy seeing the world win, lose or draw?

I get your point BUT I am sick of the old pish that Scotland supporters are all brilliantly well behaved jolly chaps who always abide by the laws of the particular city they visit. I have been attacked by a group of so called Tartan Army fans in Spain a few years back all for wearing an England shirt and having a Scottish accent... So I am probably a bit biased.

Still **** the tartan army 😂

[lyonhibs]

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I get your point BUT I am sick of the old pish that Scotland supporters are all brilliantly well behaved jolly chaps who always abide by the laws of the particular city they visit. I have been attacked by a group of so called Tartan Army fans in Spain a few years back all for wearing an England shirt and having a Scottish accent... So I am probably a bit biased.

Still **** the tartan army 😂

So you've done that classic thing of having 1 bad experience and tarring thousands of people with the same brush. I was in Bratislava to watch Scotland (get thumped 3-0 for what it's worth) not long after England were "in town".

The general demeanour and opinions for the locals I spoke to of the Scots vs those of the recent English fans that were in town couldn't have been more different (although of course, the locals in question were probably doing a bit of the same as you are - 1 bad experience = tainted opinion of an entire group of ppl)

I'm off to Brussels on Sunday - can't wait for it, another belting trip in prospect.

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So you've done that classic thing of having 1 bad experience and tarring thousands of people with the same brush. I was in Bratislava to watch Scotland (get thumped 3-0 for what it's worth) not long after England were "in town".

The general demeanour and opinions for the locals I spoke to of the Scots vs those of the recent English fans that were in town couldn't have been more different (although of course, the locals in question were probably doing a bit of the same as you are - 1 bad experience = tainted opinion of an entire group of ppl)

I'm off to Brussels on Sunday - can't wait for it, another belting trip in prospect.

You're probably right, but I think it's worth noting the attitude of a lot of Scottish supporters.. We love everyone except the English. As a Scottish man brought up by English family I adopted the English national team. To this day most Scottish people who ask me who I support get quite confrontational when I say England... Still not sure why?

[The Modfather]

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So you've done that classic thing of having 1 bad experience and tarring thousands of people with the same brush. I was in Bratislava to watch Scotland (get thumped 3-0 for what it's worth) not long after England were "in town".

The general demeanour and opinions for the locals I spoke to of the Scots vs those of the recent English fans that were in town couldn't have been more different (although of course, the locals in question were probably doing a bit of the same as you are - 1 bad experience = tainted opinion of an entire group of ppl)

I'm off to Brussels on Sunday - can't wait for it, another belting trip in prospect.

I was also at the Slovakia game, but made the mistake of staying in Bratislava (which was nice) the night before but staying in Trnava after the game. That was some place, like the Slovakian version of Motherwell! 😀

[Barman Stanton]

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You're probably right, but I think it's worth noting the attitude of a lot of Scottish supporters.. We love everyone except the English. As a Scottish man brought up by English family I adopted the English national team. To this day most Scottish people who ask me who I support get quite confrontational when I say England... Still not sure why?

Its probably because they are our football rival. And its pretty uncommon to see a Scot wearing an England top (Rangers fans the exception). I never understand why some have an issue with any Scots wanting England to lose. Its just a rivalry (the oldest in the world). Its no different from Hibs fans wanting Hearts to lose.

[Diclonius]

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Sadly predictable. The lunatic/far right hooligan element which still attaches itself to the England national team doesn't seem as strong as it once was, but hasn't been completely eradicated.

Brexit will have reinvigorated it.

[Hibrandenburg]

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So you've done that classic thing of having 1 bad experience and tarring thousands of people with the same brush. I was in Bratislava to watch Scotland (get thumped 3-0 for what it's worth) not long after England were "in town".

The general demeanour and opinions for the locals I spoke to of the Scots vs those of the recent English fans that were in town couldn't have been more different (although of course, the locals in question were probably doing a bit of the same as you are - 1 bad experience = tainted opinion of an entire group of ppl)

I'm off to Brussels on Sunday - can't wait for it, another belting trip in prospect.

If there's one positive to come out of the whole Brexit farce, then it's that the rest of Europe are again learning to distinguish between Scotland and England. Of course, some won't like that.

[One Day Soon]

A good example of stale debates reheated as referred to in the 'established posters' thread.

[Hibrandenburg]

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A good example of stale debates reheated as referred to in the 'established posters' thread.

So it's not current news then?

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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Its probably because they are our football rival. And its pretty uncommon to see a Scot wearing an England top (Rangers fans the exception). I never understand why some have an issue with any Scots wanting England to lose. Its just a rivalry (the oldest in the world). Its no different from Hibs fans wanting Hearts to lose.

Absolutely

I live in Kent (proper Brexit country) and I'm married to an English girl (she's lovely honestly )

Went to the pub with English mates (all good guys) to watch all the England games, but it didn't take much for some fans to turn on each other

When questioned about not supporting England (because Scotland ain't in the World Cup) my response was a simple one

"So Arsenal aren't in the Champions League this coming season - their fans will be backing Spurs to win, Sunderland aren't in the Premier League, bet they'll be getting behind Newcastle to lift the title...."

It shut most folk up pretty quickly

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Absolutely

I live in Kent (proper Brexit country) and I'm married to an English girl (she's lovely honestly )

Went to the pub with English mates (all good guys) to watch all the England games, but it didn't take much for some fans to turn on each other

When questioned about not supporting England (because Scotland ain't in the World Cup) my response was a simple one

"So Arsenal aren't in the Champions League this coming season - their fans will be backing Spurs to win, Sunderland aren't in the Premier League, bet they'll be getting behind Newcastle to lift the title...."

It shut most folk up pretty quickly

Indeed. Like Brazilians sit and support Argentina. Or Germany Holland. For some reason people try to make more out of 'anyone but England' than it actually is. Loads in England never liked Andy Murray cause he made a joke about it once.

[The Modfather]

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A good example of stale debates reheated as referred to in the 'established posters' thread.

We’ve not even reached the Godwins Law part of this thread yet, plenty legs left in it yet...

[Tornadoes70]

I hate these type threads that are used by 'some' to further their own type jingoistic nationalism right here in Scotland. Every support has its fair share of bampots. The vast majority of England fans attend their matches, enjoy themselves and go home afterwards without engaging in any bother whatsoever just as the vast majority of Scotland fans do.