Biggest flop

[wakeyhibs]

Who’s our biggest flop in last few seasons?


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[Diclonius]

Stokes' third spell, or Maclaren's second. Excluding players who weren't here before, probably Andrew Shinnie - expected a lot more from him.

We haven't actually had that many signings that failed to live up to expectations - if it was the last decade I'd be able to give you loads!

[wakeyhibs]

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Stokes' third spell, or Maclaren's second. Excluding players who weren't here before, probably Andrew Shinnie - expected a lot more from him.

We haven't actually had that many signings that failed to live up to expectations - if it was the last decade I'd be able to give you loads!

Hense why I gave us all an harder question. If I said “ever” my list will be bigger than a school register ;) lol


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[Liam6270]

Feruz, nelom or big Dave possibly

[Northernhibee]

Danny Swanson

Daveidas Matulaviceuis

[BILLYHIBS]

Not recent but Joe Ward

Who?

[My_Wife_Camille]

Miquel Nelom.

File alongside Adam Eckersly, Faycal Rherras and Neil Eardley

[worcesterhibby]

Would agree about McLaren unfortunately. I was really excited about us getting him back, but it just didn't work out. He was a player that needed to be scoring regularly as he didn't contribute that much else...and I feel he is a confidence player..if he had banged in a couple at the start of the season he might have been brilliant. Other than that I think the players we have brought in have been pretty good, there's a few that never really saw any game time...but I guess they were here as back-up anyway.

[worcesterhibby]

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Danny Swanson

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actually they are both a good shout...all the personal stuff around Swanson seemed to have a big effect, whilst Big Davie was just a huddie.

[Jones28]

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Miquel Nelom.

File alongside Adam Eckersly, Faycal Rherras and Neil Eardley

Is flop not applicable to someone who gets the chance or who's arrival is totally hyped then the fall from grace rather than guys who arrived and didn't even feature?

Eg, Zarabi is probably the biggest flop in my time supporting Hibs because he was totally overhyped.

[Northernhibee]

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actually they are both a good shout...all the personal stuff around Swanson seemed to have a big effect, whilst Big Davie was just a huddie.

Yeah, I don't take any pleasure from putting Danny in but I just think it wasn't to be for him at Hibs. Shame.

[southsider]

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Feruz, nelom or big Dave possibly

When Feruz signed I was pretty excited but he turned out to be a billy-big-boots type who never tried a leg. He will disappear up his own a@s & no one will give a hoot.

[My_Wife_Camille]

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Is flop not applicable to someone who gets the chance or who's arrival is totally hyped then the fall from grace rather than guys who arrived and didn't even feature?

Eg, Zarabi is probably the biggest flop in my time supporting Hibs because he was totally overhyped.

Not imo but I don’t think ‘flop’ has a definitive meaning when it come to football to be honest. For me it’s just someone who failed.

Even so, Nelom came as a Dutch international with Champions League experience so could fall into your category of being overhyped.

[iwasthere1972]

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Who’s our biggest flop in last few seasons?


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How many is a few?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

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Stokes' third spell, or Maclaren's second. Excluding players who weren't here before, probably Andrew Shinnie - expected a lot more from him.

We haven't actually had that many signings that failed to live up to expectations - if it was the last decade I'd be able to give you loads!

Shinnie scored the winner in a Derby , setup the first for Cummings too. He never set the heather alight but had some good performances in green & white. Highly unwarranted mention imo.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Islam Feruz. Total flop signing

[hibbydad]

Rowan Vine

[Greenbeard]

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Would agree about McLaren unfortunately. I was really excited about us getting him back, but it just didn't work out. He was a player that needed to be scoring regularly as he didn't contribute that much else...and I feel he is a confidence player..if he had banged in a couple at the start of the season he might have been brilliant. Other than that I think the players we have brought in have been pretty good, there's a few that never really saw any game time...but I guess they were here as back-up anyway.

Going to defend Jamie Mac's second spell. I agree he didn't live up to expectations but there are extenuating circs before you label him a flop. I'll stand corrected if anyone wants to analyse his playing stats in more depth but it seems to me he featured (had to feature?) early season when he was struggling with back trouble, then when he was fit again he never got a sustained run, often coming on very late for just a few mins, with hints of behind-the-scenes issues with the management?
Also, what is a "confidence player", other than a bit of jargon/excuse for someone who is off form (eg Kamberi)? I can understand it being said of a 14 year-old, or a teenager breaking into the first team, but not about guys who are established full-time pros with full-time support staff to help on their mindset. Lame excuse.

[The Modfather]

Slivka came with a pedigree but hasn’t managed to cement a first team place in 2 seasons. Flop would be harsh but he’s been a big disappointment IMO.

[BILLYHIBS]

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Going to defend Jamie Mac's second spell. I agree he didn't live up to expectations but there are extenuating circs before you label him a flop. I'll stand corrected if anyone wants to analyse his playing stats in more depth but it seems to me he featured (had to feature?) early season when he was struggling with back trouble, then when he was fit again he never got a sustained run, often coming on very late for just a few mins, with hints of behind-the-scenes issues with the management?


Also, what is a "confidence player", other than a bit of jargon/excuse for someone who is off form (eg Kamberi)? I can understand it being said of a 14 year-old, or a teenager breaking into the first team, but not about guys who are established full-time pros with full-time support staff to help on their mindset. Lame excuse.

Agree with this

I would love to hear the real story about Flo Jamie MAC and Neil Lennon in that second season

It was obvious that something was not quite right to the detriment of the team

I remember in one league game at Easter Road ( Livi 1-1) Lennon started with rookies and left Flo and Jamie MAC on the bench to prove a point

Nuts!

[H18S NX]

To me,Joe Harper,although he was'nt a flop per say,when he came in,that basically was the end of "Turnbulls tornadoes".

[Northernhibee]

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Agree with this

I would love to hear the real story about Flo Jamie MAC and Neil Lennon in that second season

It was obvious that something was not quite right to the detriment of the team

I remember in one league game at Easter Road Lennon started with rookies and left Flo and Jamie MAC on the bench to prove a point

Nuts!

I worked in a performance based environment in the past and ended up with a real nasty piece of work as a boss. Almost half the staff were on official performance review so they could be sacked after one or two months of bad results and my sales figures plummeted. Wasn't enjoying going into work and after a while you can't help but think "what's the point". Luckily a new manager came in but it took weeks to get my head back in the game and by that time I'd found a new job anyway.

ER did not look a happy place for a lot of last season.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Rowan Vine

I think a flop has to apply to those who failed to meet higher expectations. I don't think that applies to Rowan.

However, it does apply to James Collins. He came with a good reputation and cost £200,000. I really thought he'd do well, but was a massive disappointment.

[DetroitHibs]

Edwin De Graff. I remember thinking we have a proper players here, what a pedigree and then he played

[BILLYHIBS]

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To me,Joe Harper,although he was'nt a flop per say,when he came in,that basically was the end of "Turnbulls tornadoes".

Agree

Played 99 scored 49

Some flop

Once famously said “Do you think I left Everton for less money?”

Tom Hart was keen to get his dough back asap

[southsider]

The £120,000 we paid for Joe, who also got a £15,000 signing on fee is about a Million Pounds in today’s money. First game was at the old Brockville and a huge Hibs support could not believe their eyes. Joe was 2 stone overweight !

[BILLYHIBS]

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The £120,000 we paid for Joe, who also got a £15,000 signing on fee is about a Million Pounds in today’s money. First game was at the old Brockville and a huge Hibs support could not believe their eyes. Joe was 2 stone overweight !

Aye I was there and as the OP said it was the beginning of the end for Gordon ORourke and the Tornadoes

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Chris Dagnall

[Northernhibee]

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Chris Dagnall

I dunno. He came in as backup and ended up with a Scottish Cup Winners Medal. Even though he didn't score a single goal I can't call any member of that team a flop by default

[HoboHarry]

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To me,Joe Harper,although he was'nt a flop per say,when he came in,that basically was the end of "Turnbulls tornadoes".

Joe Harper wasn't even close to being a flop, he had a tremendous scoring record but he still managed to incur the wrath of the support. It was ET's decision to break up the tornadoes and his alone....