Brexit - What Now.

[JeMeSouviens]

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This is the point we've now reached: the brave new world of limitless possibilities we were promised were waiting for us outside the EU has shrunk to 'British Bulldog spirit'.

Hey we* survived 2 world wars you know!


* give or take a million or so.

[lapsedhibee]

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Hey we* survived 2 world wars you know!


* give or take a million or so.

We had Hong Kong before we joined the EU, and now look at it.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/f...3_VT5w.twitter


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[Hibrandenburg]

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https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/f...3_VT5w.twitter


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Good read, thanks for sharing.

[Ozyhibby]

For those with Netflix, ‘The Great Hack’ is an interesting watch.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...mpression=true


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[Hibrandenburg]

So the British government couldn't be arsed claiming the money they were entitled to from individual EU countries but now find it worthwhile to claim from individual people after Brexit. A non story but a vote winner amongst the Gammons. Strap yourself in, there's an election on the way.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nhs-...19-8?r=US&IR=T

[ronaldo7]

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For those with Netflix, ‘The Great Hack’ is an interesting watch.


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I watched it the other week. Carol Cadwalladr is very enlightening.

Cambridge analytica, had their paws all over Brexit.

Brittany Kaiser's part in the whole affair is extremely worrying.

What's next.

[lapsedhibee]

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https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...mpression=true

Collaborators everywhere. Shouldn't she be getting her head shaved?

[Moulin Yarns]

UK must accept USA food standards for any trade deals, says Zippy.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49353220

[Future17]

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UK must accept USA food standards for any trade deals, says Zippy.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49353220

Let's see what Prime Minister Bungle has to say about this.

[Saturday Boy]

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Let's see what Prime Minister Bungle has to say about this.

I’ve just caught up with this thread, and I’m so annoyed that someone beat me to the Bungle joke.

As an off topic aside, I’m going through cold turkey with Edinburgh beer prices after 10 days in Slovenia. 😱

[Ozyhibby]

Tory mp ready to back Corbyn’s plan.


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[JeMeSouviens]

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Tory mp ready to back Corbyn’s plan.


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And Grieve, Boles, Letwin, the Greens, Plaid and SNP all willing to at least engage.

Wtf are the Libs on? Actually, what is the point of the Libs anyway? When was the last time they achieved anything "liberal"?

[Ozyhibby]

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And Grieve, Boles, Letwin, the Greens, Plaid and SNP all willing to at least engage.

Wtf are the Libs on? Actually, what is the point of the Libs anyway? When was the last time they achieved anything "liberal"?

They’ll cave under pressure. Swinson has misjudged the situation.


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[stoneyburn hibs]

Just watched Swinson being interviewed on c4, she's all over the place.

[Fife-Hibee]

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Just watched Swinson being interviewed on c4, she's all over the place.

The usual then. Channel 4 seems to be the only British broadcasting network that asks politicans and leaders the questions that they should all be asking them.

[Jack Hackett]

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They’ll cave under pressure. Swinson has misjudged the situation.


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As self-serving now as when they propped up Cameron. They were given a 2nd chance at the Euros and it's given them ideas way above their actual station. I can't stand the man, but if the best way of stopping the current clown in chief from hurtling us over the cliff, is to unite under Corbyn, then so be it. Swinson needs a wee reality check

[Mibbes Aye]

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They’ll cave under pressure. Swinson has misjudged the situation.


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Do you think her proposal of an anti-Brexit temporary government under Harriet Harman or Ken Clarke is worse than Corbyn’s proposal where he leads things?

[Fife-Hibee]

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Do you think her proposal of an anti-Brexit temporary government under Harriet Harman or Ken Clarke is worse than Corbyn’s proposal where he leads things?

If it's a temporary position with the sole purpose of steering the UK away from Brexit, then why does she care if it's Corbyn?

If she wants it to be Ken Clarke so badly, then why doesn't she give up her own leadership to him, instead of expecting Corbyn to give up his position to a tory?

The lib dems can do a direct swap, one tory leader for another.

[Pretty Boy]

If any vote of no confidence fails by a margin that the Lib Dems could have influenced then Swinson will decimate their vote more than Clegg ever did in a fraction of the time. Hopefully their MPs will disobey any whip and vote with their conscience.

[Mibbes Aye]

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If it's a temporary position with the sole purpose of steering the UK away from Brexit, then why does she care if it's Corbyn?

If she wants it to be Ken Clarke so badly, then why doesn't she give up her own leadership to him, instead of expecting Corbyn to give up his position to a tory?

The lib dems can do a direct swap, one tory leader for another.

You are falling for sectarian politics I suspect.

There are many Remainers on either side who could stomach Harman or Clarke if it meant avoiding the cataclysm, but crucially what also unites them is a complete lack of trust in Corbyn.

That mistrust is less about his competence, though he has repeatedly shown he is incompetent, it is more to do with him being happy to allow Brexit to happen in the first place.

[Ozyhibby]

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Do you think her proposal of an anti-Brexit temporary government under Harriet Harman or Ken Clarke is worse than Corbyn’s proposal where he leads things?

No, I think her proposal is much better. The problem is she has to recognise the fact that she has a much smaller amount of mp’s.
I can see why they are wary. The GE would be fought with Corbyn as PM and labour being presented as the remain party. This would kill the Lib Dem revival.
She should not rule out Corbyn leading the temp govt but she would be mad not to get some major concessions from Labour including a non aggression pact in seats where Lib Dem’s are biggest challenge to the Tories or where Lib Dem’s have a sitting MP.
It would take a lot of horse trading to get to a situation where the remain parties could say they have a deal but they have to start somewhere and they need to start now.


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[marinello59]

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Just watched Swinson being interviewed on c4, she's all over the place.

My son has just described her as a female Macron. Fair comment?

[Mibbes Aye]

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No, I think her proposal is much better. The problem is she has to recognise the fact that she has a much smaller amount of mp’s.
I can see why they are wary. The GE would be fought with Corbyn as PM and labour being presented as the remain party. This would kill the Lib Dem revival.
She should not rule out Corbyn leading the temp govt but she would be mad not to get some major concessions from Labour including a non aggression pact in seats where Lib Dem’s are biggest challenge to the Tories or where Lib Dem’s have a sitting MP.
It would take a lot of horse trading to get to a situation where the remain parties could say they have a deal but they have to start somewhere and they need to start now.


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Good analysis. My fear is the swivel heads like Seamas Milne will stick rigorously to the purity of their ideology and pull Corbyn’s strings in whichever way they want. Which will be Brexit in whatever form, but hey, it is ideologically pure.........

[Ozyhibby]

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Good analysis. My fear is the swivel heads like Seamas Milne will stick rigorously to the purity of their ideology and pull Corbyn’s strings in whichever way they want. Which will be Brexit in whatever form, but hey, it is ideologically pure.........

Yip, I still think Labour is the biggest problem for a deal.


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[stoneyburn hibs]

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My son has just described her as a female Macron. Fair comment?

Haha, well she is beginning to get rather gauling 😁

[Bristolhibby]

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Good analysis. My fear is the swivel heads like Seamas Milne will stick rigorously to the purity of their ideology and pull Corbyn’s strings in whichever way they want. Which will be Brexit in whatever form, but hey, it is ideologically pure.........

It’s crap like that that lost the Republicans the Civil war in Spain. Strong parallels.

The Left being unable to unite themselves against a galvanised Fascist leader.

J

[Mibbes Aye]

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It’s crap like that that lost the Republicans the Civil war in Spain. Strong parallels.

The Left being unable to unite themselves against a galvanised Fascist leader.

J

Sheer honesty, I replied to your post because I interpreted it one way and then when I posted my reply I read your post differently, so I deleted my post!

[Bristolhibby]

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Sheer honesty, I replied to your post because I interpreted it one way and then when I posted my reply I read your post differently, so I deleted my post!

Fair play. (I didn’t see your first post).

J