Neil Lennon

[Montford]

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Neil Lennon is a very lucky guy to move from a fast dropping Hibs team where he lost the dressing room and frequently indulged in some bizarre behaviour to end up at the indisputable best team in the land.

He's undoubtedly a cheap option for Celtic and I think they'll come to regret his appointment before his time is done.

Today was the endgame. Getting the job full time at Celtic again
This was pre-planned from at least December 2018
I suspect it was, initially, ordained for the summer of last year. Hence the hysterics after the defeat at Tynecastle. Only for him to sheepishly come back into the fold after Rogers proposed move to a EPL outfit didn’t materialise.

[Hibbyradge]

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Before Lennon this season(domestically):

P - 33
W - 26
D - 3
L - 4
GF - 80
GA - 13
GD - +67
Win % - 78%

With Lennon:

P - 14
W - 10
D - 3
L - 1
GF - 20
GA - 6
GD - +14
Win % - 71%

I don't think the stats really back up your argument. Results wise they essentially flatlined under Lennon but their ability to score goals dropped away dramatically.

11 of those 14 games were against top 6 teams, one was a cup final and the one they lost was at Ibrox the week after they won the league, so the comparison isn't a good one.

[Hibbyradge]

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Today was the endgame. Getting the job full time at Celtic again
This was pre-planned from at least December 2018
I suspect it was, initially, ordained for the summer of last year. Hence the hysterics after the defeat at Tynecastle. Only for him to sheepishly come back into the fold after Rogers proposed move to a EPL outfit didn’t materialise.

I believe he was about to take a job abroad when Celtc came calling.

None of this was planned, but conspiracies are just too damn sexy to be dismissed.

[Pretty Boy]

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Celtc weren't as good this year as they were last, but that was the case under Rodgers.

Lennon only lost one game, to The Rangers at Ibrox, and that was the week after the league had been won.

It's incredible how fans who have no involvement in football other than supporting one team, know that a man who has had success at the highest levels, both as a player and manager, is bad at their job, while those immersed in the sport can't see it.

Does being immersed in the sport make you immune to bad decision making?

Terry Butcher and Colin Calderwood at Hibs, Berti Vogts and Alex McLeish for Scotland, Ian Cathro at Hearts, Pedro Caixihna at Rangers and countless other appointments suggests otherwise.

Lennon may well be a success at Celtic this time around but if his performance is comparable to the last time he was there then their fans will judge it a bad decision and understandably so.

[H18S NX]

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Today was the endgame. Getting the job full time at Celtic again
This was pre-planned from at least December 2018
I suspect it was, initially, ordained for the summer of last year. Hence the hysterics after the defeat at Tynecastle. Only for him to sheepishly come back into the fold after Rogers proposed move to a EPL outfit didn’t materialise.

...My feelings exactly,well said m8.

[Hibbyradge]

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Does being immersed in the sport make you immune to bad decision making?

Terry Butcher and Colin Calderwood at Hibs, Berti Vogts and Alex McLeish for Scotland, Ian Cathro at Hearts, Pedro Caixihna at Rangers and countless other appointments suggests otherwise.

Lennon may well be a success at Celtic this time around but if his performance is comparable to the last time he was there then their fans will judge it a bad decision and understandably so.

No it doesn't, but when club after club, including Hibs who, since LD arrived, have a good record of managerial appointments, are making the same decision, they can't all be wrong.

I don't know if Lennon will be a success next year or not, but dismissing him as a failure before he's put his own mark on his team is daft, imo.

[Pretty Boy]

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11 of those 14 games were against top 6 teams, one was a cup final and the one they lost was at Ibrox the week after they won the league, so the comparison isn't a good one.

Against top 6 (all competitions).

Rodgers:

P - 14
W - 10
D - 0
L - 4
GF - 28
GA - 11
GD - +17
Win % - 71%
Average goals per game - 2

Lennon -

P - 11
W - 8
D - 2
L - 1
GF - 17
GA - 5
GD - +12
Win % - 72%
Average goals per game - 1.5

I stand by my analysis that Celtic flatlined under Lennon but found it harder to score. It's worth noting that when you factor in games against the bottom 6 Rodgers goals per game jumps up to 2.42 but Lennon's gets worse, dropping to 1.42.

[Hibbyradge]

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Against top 6(all competition.

Rodgers:

P - 14
W - 10
D - 0
L - 4
GF - 28
GA - 11
GD - +17
Win % - 71%
Average goals per game - 2

Lennon -

P - 11
W - 8
D - 2
L - 1
GF - 17
GA - 5
GD - +12
Win % - 72%
Average goals per game - 1.5

I stand by my analysis that Celtic flatlined under Lennon but found it harder to score. It's worth noting that when you factor in games against the bottom 6 Rodgers goals per game jumps up to 2.42 but Lennon's gets worse, dropping to 1.42.

Rodgers had Griffiths to pick until December.

When he took his time out, Celtic were left with only one experienced striker, Edouard, and they failed to sign anyone in January.

Griffiths has returned to the first team squad now, I believe, and I'm sure Celtc will bring in at least one more goal scorer.

I've absolutely no idea why I'm taking such an interest in all this.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The guy who scored both goals cost Celtic £9,000,000 and they brought on a sub who cost them £4,000,000 In the last 20 years I doubt Hibs total transfer spending has reached £13,000,000 or anywhere near it and that goes for every other club in Scotland outwith Sevco.

Fair play to the Celtic players, you have to play to the standard the club have paid to get. But I have no regard for the 'achievement' of any manager who is successful with them when such a massive financial disparity exists between Celtic and the rest and that includes Neil Lennon.

[Billy Whizz]

We should keep in with Lennon, lots of players due to leave Celtic, you never know if one or two could end up at Hibs?

[The 90+2]

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We should keep in with Lennon, lots of players due to leave Celtic, you never know if one or two could end up at Hibs?

I’ve a feeling he will make Marciano a priority. Bain is hopeless.

[Bishop Hibee]

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I’ve a feeling he will make Marciano a priority. Bain is hopeless.

I wouldn’t be surprised. Marciano’s form was excellent for the last half of the season. I hope I’m wrong.

[Billy Whizz]

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I’ve a feeling he will make Marciano a priority. Bain is hopeless.

Did Lennon sign Rocky for Hibs, think so but can’t remember eber

[My_Wife_Camille]

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Did Lennon sign Rocky for Hibs, think so but can’t remember eber

He did but he also signed Bain for Hibs

[Sir David Gray]

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Did Lennon sign Rocky for Hibs, think so but can’t remember eber

Yes.

[Billy Whizz]

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He did but he also signed Bain for Hibs

He did on loan, as back up to Rocky

[My_Wife_Camille]

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He did on loan, as back up to Rocky

Yes I remember, he also signed Marciano on loan initially.

The point is Lennon obviously likes Bain because he went to the effort of signing him already.

[The 90+2]

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Did Lennon sign Rocky for Hibs, think so but can’t remember eber

Yeah, he’s also got previous with the agent of Rocky Ambrose Biton and others.

[HoboHarry]

I doubt that Lennon is going to be looking in our direction much - he has the whole world to look at provided they open the biscuit tin.....

[The 90+2]

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Yes I remember, he also signed Marciano on loan initially.

The point is Lennon obviously likes Bain because he went to the effort of signing him already.

Bain was back up. Could be the same next season.

[My_Wife_Camille]

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Bain was back up. Could be the same next season.

Back up or competition?

[ancient hibee]

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Today was the endgame. Getting the job full time at Celtic again
This was pre-planned from at least December 2018
I suspect it was, initially, ordained for the summer of last year. Hence the hysterics after the defeat at Tynecastle. Only for him to sheepishly come back into the fold after Rogers proposed move to a EPL outfit didn’t materialise.

I love fairy stories on a Sunday afternoon.

[hibbiedon]

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I think his winners record says otherwise.

Unless you count how much he has spent and the wages they can offer.

[Brizo]

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Correct! Wierd how there's so many Hibs fans having a pop at NL. He had one of the best win ratios of a Hibs Manager in his time, and we played some great football under him last season and early this season. Just read that he's also got a better win ratio with Celtic than Brendan Rodgers.

Not so sure his permanent appointment is as good news for Rangers as others seem to think. Celtic were on the slide under Rodgers long before NL took over.

I view NL as having been one of our better managers and the football served up for a large part of that time really entertaining.

Probably both a cheap and safe pair of hands for Celtc as they move towards their tedious quest for 10 in a row. However i think it will also motivate the huns in their own tedious quest to stop 10 in a row.

[JimBHibees]

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You also have to say that Celtc are s very lucky club to be able to recruit Lennon without having to pay compensation. Compensation which they most certainly have the means to pay.

Almost too lucky I think. Has worked out for them that is for sure.