Steve Clarke

**Smartie** · 19-05-2019 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

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Indeed. And we've not achieved half as much since it was levelled.

I'm surprised so many people now think that it's ok for some SPFL teams to have different surfaces from all the other teams.

Fair enough, if that's the case, but whenever I read a matchday thread when we're at Killie, Hamilton or Livi, people are complaining about the pitch.

Clarke has done very well, no-one is denying that, but he's used an unfair advantage to do so, imo.

I think there probably is an advantage in it but I think it is overplayed.

Hibs train on similar pitches regularly. Most current players will have grown up playing on pitches like that.

Every club is free to instal a pitch like that if they so wish, they choose not to.

My main problem with the pitch is that I'm sick hearing about it, particularly from opposition managers in sour grapes post-match interviews.

When we lost there last week we lost because of a disgraceful refereeing decision. The pitch was quite far down my list of excuses.

**tonyrougier123** · 19-05-2019 05:50 PM

This talk about pitches man!! Our pitch was in good nick the day!ibrox pitch last week was superb.
Folk wearing ther colours, vibrant stands.baw on the deck.
Season shud be starting this time of year no finishing.
Summer football is the way ahead,no need for plastic pitches then.

**we are hibs** · 19-05-2019 05:55 PM

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This talk about pitches man!! Our pitch was in good nick the day!ibrox pitch last week was superb.
Folk wearing ther colours, vibrant stands.baw on the deck.
Season shud be starting this time of year no finishing.
Summer football is the way ahead,no need for plastic pitches then.

We live in Scotland. It could be the hottest day on record and it would probably still pish down come kick off.

***BoomtownHibees*** · 19-05-2019 05:55 PM

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This talk about pitches man!! Our pitch was in good nick the day!ibrox pitch last week was superb.
Folk wearing ther colours, vibrant stands.baw on the deck.
Season shud be starting this time of year no finishing.
Summer football is the way ahead,no need for plastic pitches then.

Would still gave a big chunk of the season played in the winter

**Lago** · 19-05-2019 05:56 PM

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What an incredible job hes done at Killie and some post match speech on the park.

Terrific, absolutely terrific!

**ancient hibee** · 19-05-2019 05:58 PM

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Maybe we should get a plastic pitch.

Killie have the 3rd best home record and Livingston are fourth.

And have lost more league matches at home than away.

**tonyrougier123** · 19-05-2019 05:59 PM

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We live in Scotland. It could be the hottest day on record and it would probably still pish down come kick off.

Can deal with rain,freezing pitches and non football,not so much.

**tonyrougier123** · 19-05-2019 06:00 PM

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Would still gave a big chunk of the season played in the winter

Would depend how it was structured tbh.but mainly would avoid winter months.

***TrinityHibs*** · 19-05-2019 06:00 PM

How did Celtic win the league without a plastic pitch?

***BoomtownHibees*** · 19-05-2019 06:02 PM

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Would depend how it was structured tbh.but mainly would avoid winter months.

You would more than likely be playing November, December, January and February

**Lago** · 19-05-2019 06:05 PM

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How did Celtic win the league without a plastic pitch?

They bought it, as 1 of only 2 clubs that will win the Scottish League it is all about money.

**Sir David Gray** · 19-05-2019 06:05 PM

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This talk about pitches man!! Our pitch was in good nick the day!ibrox pitch last week was superb.
Folk wearing ther colours, vibrant stands.baw on the deck.
Season shud be starting this time of year no finishing.
Summer football is the way ahead,no need for plastic pitches then.

I don't think Scotland has enough of a distinction in the seasons for it to make any serious difference what time of year we play.

It was just the other week that we had daytime temperatures of about 8 degrees, this is not too dissimilar to temperatures in December and January.

Our climate is just garbage the full year, it's hardly going to be wall to wall sunshine every day over the next 2 months, while footballers have a break.

**tonyrougier123** · 19-05-2019 06:29 PM

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I don't think Scotland has enough of a distinction in the seasons for it to make any serious difference what time of year we play.

It was just the other week that we had daytime temperatures of about 8 degrees, this is not too dissimilar to temperatures in December and January.

Our climate is just garbage the full year, it's hardly going to be wall to wall sunshine every day over the next 2 months, while footballers have a break.

So december is like may??lol.im no saying its gonny be footie in the costa del sol.just generally it would be a better time of year to play the game.for a number of reasons.but you have to think outside the box to see the plus side of my opinion.

**tonyrougier123** · 19-05-2019 06:36 PM

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You would more than likely be playing November, December, January and February

Not necessarily mate.you could have less games more teams.midweek/weekend fixtures.it works in other countries performing better than our leagues.

***BoomtownHibees*** · 19-05-2019 06:38 PM

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Not necessarily mate.you could have less games more teams.midweek/weekend fixtures.it works in other countries performing better than our leagues.

So what’s your suggestion? When would the season start and end? How many teams and how many games?

**tonyrougier123** · 19-05-2019 06:52 PM

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So what’s your suggestion? When would the season start and end? How many teams and how many games?

Ive suggested before some examples.

16 team league play home and away streamline the season by cutting games,playing midweek summer football in the best months.run the season fae say end of march to october.introduce a winter cup instead of league cup.im no expert right enuf mate just would need some planning.

**Phil MaGlass** · 19-05-2019 07:28 PM

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Kille's pitch got them third.

Their defence knew how to play on it.

Both Hibs and Aberdeen scored more goals and both won more away games.

It's a great season for them, no doubt, but I think the plaudits are on the excessive side.

This, unfair advantage on a **** pitch

***greenlex*** · 19-05-2019 07:47 PM

I think he’s a sour faced curmudgeon.

**Haymaker** · 19-05-2019 07:49 PM

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Ive suggested before some examples.

16 team league play home and away streamline the season by cutting games,playing midweek summer football in the best months.run the season fae say end of march to october.introduce a winter cup instead of league cup.im no expert right enuf mate just would need some planning.

Needs a certain amount of games to qualify for European competition. 30 is not enough IIRC.

Not sure starting and (particularly) ending the season when the grass won't grow to repair the pitches.

***tamig*** · 19-05-2019 08:31 PM

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Kille's pitch got them third.

Their defence knew how to play on it.

Both Hibs and Aberdeen scored more goals and both won more away games.

It's a great season for them, no doubt, but I think the plaudits are on the excessive side.

Not in the slightest. He has transformed that club from where they were when he arrived. An outstanding achievement.

***Billy Whizz*** · 19-05-2019 08:36 PM

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Not in the slightest. He has transformed that club from where they were when he arrived. An outstanding achievement.

100%. Hope he can do the same with Scotland

***tamig*** · 19-05-2019 09:12 PM

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100%. Hope he can do the same with Scotland

If he does take over the national job it could be a very exciting few years ahead. I just hope he’s there long enough to get us to a tournament. Might even rekindle my enthusiasm for the national team 😀

**CathroMustStay** · 20-05-2019 12:10 AM

Steve Clarke has been a revelation in the past 19 months.

Very much hope the SFA do the right thing for once and appoint this man as Scotland manager in upcoming days.

**Steve-O** · 20-05-2019 02:36 AM

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Indeed. And we've not achieved half as much since it was levelled.

I'm surprised so many people now think that it's ok for some SPFL teams to have different surfaces from all the other teams.

Fair enough, if that's the case, but whenever I read a matchday thread when we're at Killie, Hamilton or Livi, people are complaining about the pitch.

Clarke has done very well, no-one is denying that, but he's used an unfair advantage to do so, imo.

Well, lets get a plastic pitch installed at Hampden so he can continue this conspiracy in the Scotland role!

**TelaStella** · 20-05-2019 02:49 AM

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What did he say?

Bye bye rangers

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**Barney McGrew** · 20-05-2019 04:03 AM

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Kille's pitch got them third.

Their defence knew how to play on it.

Killie only conceded two less then us at home and also had the second best away defensive record in the league.

Their defence has certainly been the main reason they done so well, but it’s not just at home. And that’s nothing to do with a pitch.

***NORTHERNHIBBY*** · 20-05-2019 06:49 AM

I don't think that having a grass pitch as mandatory for a top flight club is too much to ask. Makes more sense than the needless 10,000 all seater rule from a few years ago. Same surface for all.

***lapsedhibee*** · 20-05-2019 07:32 AM

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Finished 3rd for the first time since 1963 or something and a record points total 2 seasons in a row now and European football, they earned it, he's done brilliantly. Reminds me of when Mowbray came to Hibs, he transformed Hibs like Clarke has transformed Kilmarnock.

I wonder if you might be thinking of 1965, when Killie also got a last-day-of-the-season win to pip their rivals for a coveted league position.