We need much better

***Keith_M*** · 19-05-2019 03:48 PM

I'm grateful to the players leaving, and for others that have given loyal servuce over the years, but we really need better than this if we're ever going to achieve anything other than a mid-table finish.

**Pretty Boy** · 19-05-2019 03:50 PM

Goes without saying. The points difference and results against the teams above us tell the story.

We are a mid table team with a mid table squad that needs a lot of work.

***CraigHibee*** · 19-05-2019 04:02 PM

I'm sure hecky knows that as well, will be interesting to see how this transfer window goes

And imo, i think we have finished better than we would have if lennon was still there

**Swedish hibee** · 19-05-2019 04:03 PM

I wondered how long a thread like this would appear.. When the game was still be played it seems.

**Pretty Boy** · 19-05-2019 04:04 PM

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I wondered how long a thread like this would appear.. When the game was still be played it seems.

Is it an unfair point that's been made by the OP? Would it have been more relevant had it been posted at 9pm or tomorrow morning?

**we are hibs** · 19-05-2019 04:05 PM

Not the worst base to build on. Plenty have arrived and inherited worse squads. But still a massive job in hand. Really need to get this summer right.

***Greencore*** · 19-05-2019 04:06 PM

Where would people say our weakest spot is?

**Hibs90** · 19-05-2019 04:06 PM

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Where would people say our weakest spot is?

Up front

**Hibees1973** · 19-05-2019 04:06 PM

Likely that Celtic will be weaker next season and Rangers stronger. Will be well nigh impossible breaking into the top 2.

3rd must be the target for us next season with Aberdeen and the Yams looking for the same. I feel our squad at present is better than Hearts but below Aberdeen. Most sensible people will think Killie will slide due to Clarke leaving.

Bartley & Milligan moving on. Will think that Whittaker, Aygepong, Slivka, Nelom, Bogdan and one or two others will move on. Kamberi not looking the same player he was....would be good to get a £500,000 offer for him to go. Best scenario is that McNulty and Omeonga remain. So, we may need up to 10 players. Boyle & Porteous fully fit will be helpful

What a chance for Hibs to really build a good squad and to be consistently in the top 4 for the next 5 years.

I detect Heckingbottom being frustrated already with transfers. Hope he does not encounter the same issues as Lennon.

***Keith_M*** · 19-05-2019 04:07 PM

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I wondered how long a thread like this would appear.. When the game was still be played it seems.

Sorry if U disagree.

***Allant1981*** · 19-05-2019 04:07 PM

Need a good back up GK, a RB, RM a couple of CM's, LM and at least 3 strikers. Doubt we will get that many but really need them

**~~MSK~~** · 19-05-2019 04:08 PM

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I wondered how long a thread like this would appear.. When the game was still be played it seems.

Wasnt just one game though was it, we have been weak for most of the season, Aberdeen just showed our frailties today, we are weak all over from back to front. Sentiment aside, I hope Heckingbottom is looking at every position, keeper aside

***hhibs*** · 19-05-2019 04:11 PM

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Need a good back up GK, a RB, RM a couple of CM's, LM and at least 3 strikers. Doubt we will get that many but really need them

Yep,honestly do need a big turnround in players,hopefully Hecky has some ideas,I still do not have confidence in our recruitment team.IMO.

**A Hi-Bee** · 19-05-2019 04:23 PM

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Yep,honestly do need a big turnround in players,hopefully Hecky has some ideas,I still do not have confidence in our recruitment team.IMO.

Keep saying we need quality players in but where will the money come from to do this re-build that we all know we need?

***Greencore*** · 19-05-2019 04:24 PM

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Keep saying we need quality players in but where will the money come from to do this re-build that we all know we need?

Exactly my thoughts.

***Allant1981*** · 19-05-2019 04:25 PM

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Keep saying we need quality players in but where will the money come from to do this re-build that we all know we need?

Probably quite a few loan players and free agents

**Borderhibbie76** · 19-05-2019 04:28 PM

Up front needs major surgery we missed so many chances today when we were well on top. Which sums it up for me...not scoring enough goals against the other Top 6 teams. Allan will help with the creativity as will a fit again Boyle but even if we sign McNulty I still reckon we need another 2 strikers to battle it out with him and Flo

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**Pretty Boy** · 19-05-2019 04:33 PM

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Keep saying we need quality players in but where will the money come from to do this re-build that we all know we need?

It's probably a 3-4 window job.

As long as we see progress in the summer I'd accept a similar start to last season with another kick on again post January.

I don't think we'll get everything we need in one window.

**HappyAsHellas** · 19-05-2019 04:39 PM

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I detect Heckingbottom being frustrated already with transfers. Hope he does not encounter the same issues as Lennon.

You mean if Hecky only gets about 30 players we're short changing him?

***Diclonius*** · 19-05-2019 04:47 PM

It's frustrating being told we don't have the funds to make sustained challenges for Europe when Aberdeen, Hearts, Motherwell, Dundee United and St Johnstone have all managed it in the last decade. We have one sort of good season and are then pish for at least the next 5.

***One Day Soon*** · 19-05-2019 05:06 PM

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Where would people say our weakest spot is?

All over the park except in goal.

Defence is prone to terrible gaffes and spilling critical goals.

Midfield is weak defensively, lacks pace and bite going forward and doesn't have enough invention.

Forward line is patchy and more often than not fails to land the killer punch.

The team collectively gives away a huge amount of possession game after game. The team collectively doesn't look as fit or as fast as it should.

Being stuck in mid table no-man's land is useless to us and so far for me Heckingbottom isn't much of an improvement on Lennon -but he deserves at least two transfer windows to show where he wants to take us and how. I haven't seen a huge improvement in the players since he arrived - Kamberi in particular is as bad as he was - and I'm disappointed that so few of them have looked really hungry to impress the new manager.

We have a lot of players who are adequate rather than good and very few players who are consistently very good and often excellent.

I really hate how we fail to get in the faces of the opposition and referees on days like today.

**Bobby's Cinema** · 19-05-2019 05:14 PM

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All over the park except in goal.

Defence is prone to terrible gaffes and spilling critical goals.

Midfield is weak defensively, lacks pace and bite going forward and doesn't have enough invention.

Forward line is patchy and more often than not fails to land the killer punch.

The team collectively gives away a huge amount of possession game after game. The team collectively doesn't look as fit or as fast as it should.

Being stuck in mid table no-man's land is useless to us and so far for me Heckingbottom isn't much of an improvement on Lennon -but he deserves at least two transfer windows to show where he wants to take us and how. I haven't seen a huge improvement in the players since he arrived - Kamberi in particular is as bad as he was - and I'm disappointed that so few of them have looked really hungry to impress the new manager.

We have a lot of players who are adequate rather than good and very few players who are consistently very good and often excellent.

I really hate how we fail to get in the faces of the opposition and referees on days like today.

Is this a serious post or fishing?

**Borderhibbie76** · 19-05-2019 05:15 PM

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It's frustrating being told we don't have the funds to make sustained challenges for Europe when Aberdeen, Hearts, Motherwell, Dundee United and St Johnstone have all managed it in the last decade. We have one sort of good season and are then pish for at least the next 5.

Other than on here I dont see anyone from the club saying that tho?? Hecky repeated said at his presser on Thurs he wants us challenging top 4 next season. And weve just finished 5th...yeah it not been as good a season as last but hardly p##h

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**Ellahappyhibee** · 19-05-2019 05:16 PM

We need more pace across the back four - they are too slow and it shows in last 20 minutes of games. Clinical finishing up front would also help

**Borderhibbie76** · 19-05-2019 05:17 PM

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All over the park except in goal.

Defence is prone to terrible gaffes and spilling critical goals.

Midfield is weak defensively, lacks pace and bite going forward and doesn't have enough invention.

Forward line is patchy and more often than not fails to land the killer punch.

The team collectively gives away a huge amount of possession game after game. The team collectively doesn't look as fit or as fast as it should.

Being stuck in mid table no-man's land is useless to us and so far for me Heckingbottom isn't much of an improvement on Lennon -but he deserves at least two transfer windows to show where he wants to take us and how. I haven't seen a huge improvement in the players since he arrived - Kamberi in particular is as bad as he was - and I'm disappointed that so few of them have looked really hungry to impress the new manager.

We have a lot of players who are adequate rather than good and very few players who are consistently very good and often excellent.

I really hate how we fail to get in the faces of the opposition and referees on days like today.

Some.shocking posts on here today but that really is a hum dinger...oh dear

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**Ozyhibby** · 19-05-2019 05:19 PM

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Likely that Celtic will be weaker next season and Rangers stronger.

I would have thought the opposite given how much money Celtic have to spend compared to the new Rangers.

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**Ozyhibby** · 19-05-2019 05:21 PM

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Keep saying we need quality players in but where will the money come from to do this re-build that we all know we need?

From the money we are paying through the gate. We are the 4th best supported team in the league so we should have enough to build a squad competing for European places.

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***hhibs*** · 19-05-2019 05:24 PM

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Some.shocking posts on here today but that really is a hum dinger...oh dear

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Clearly a border settler.

**HFC93** · 19-05-2019 05:31 PM

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It's frustrating being told we don't have the funds to make sustained challenges for Europe when Aberdeen, Hearts, Motherwell, Dundee United and St Johnstone have all managed it in the last decade. We have one sort of good season and are then pish for at least the next 5.

Who has said this?