Summer 2019 transfer thread

[The 90+2]

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1. Aye. Bollox.
2. Don’t cos I really don’t. I’d lose you on that one. Trust me. I’m not an actual Pope. I’ll lose you on it though.
3. Woooah we are not mates. You so much as look at the Famous Five Stand (or the East West or South East) the wrong way, swear to god I’ll ****ing knock you out!

No bother Iggy pal. Send me wee pm if you have an issue because I’ve not got a ****ing clue what you’re spraffing about, mate 👍

[SideBurns]

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Are you ok tonight?

I'm having a civilised discussion about loan players and in this case, Martin Boyle.

Are we all supposed to say nothing because you've made a statement, whether we agree with it or not?

Probably best not to encourage Lucy by replying to her. I thought she might've got bored by now...

Assuming Middleton is signing, he deserves the same support every other player receives. However, it'd be nice to have a bit of pace in the team at Ibrox next Sunday, and since he won't be eligible I'd like to think Hecky's still looking around at other attacking options too.

[calumhibee1]

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Probably best not to encourage Lucy by replying to her. I thought she might've got bored by now...

Assuming Middleton is signing, he deserves the same support every other player receives. However, it'd be nice to have a bit of pace in the team at Ibrox next Sunday, and since he won't be eligible I'd like to think Hecky's still looking around at other attacking options too.

Going by this thread the guys on a hiding to nothing unless he’s outstanding.

Thankfully I reckon he’ll be very good for us.

[Hibbyradge]

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That might be right, but seeing as we have watched the same sides most of our lives, when have you seen Hibs develop a young player for another side? We swapped Boyle with Harris if I recall. Developing players for the competition? Can not recall it my friend.

Just the various Celtic players and Boyle that I can remember. Everyone was perfectly happy when we took Liam Henderson on loan. Sure, we were in the league below, but we were still developing him for Celtic.

The fact is, we're not recruiting players to develop them. We recruit them to improve our side.

If they learn a bit while they're here, it's no skin off our nose. I understand why you find it galling, and I'd rather we didn't have to go down that road, but if he improves us, then I'm happy to swallow a bit of pride.

[The 90+2]

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That might be right, but seeing as we have watched the same sides most of our lives, when have you seen Hibs develop a young player for another side? We swapped Boyle with Harris if I recall. Developing players for the competition? Can not recall it my friend.

Can’t you remember us picking up Scotty Allan from the Celtic under 23s and potentially shop windowing him for other clubs? Only to be denied him once again because we decided to not bend over to Celtic over McGinn.

I’m sure you hated Allan back right enough.

[04Sauzee]

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Can’t you remember us picking up Scotty Allan from the Celtic under 23s and potentially shop windowing him for other clubs? Only to be denied him once again because we decided to not bend over to Celtic over McGinn.

I’m sure you hated Allan back right enough.

But Allan didn't go back to Celtic and play nor did he sign for anyone else, in fact on the back of that we agreed a pre-contract in Jan and tried to get him in the January window. We may never have signed him if we didn't do the loan deal

[The 90+2]

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But Allan didn't go back to Celtic and play nor did he sign for anyone else, in fact on the back of that we agreed a pre-contract in Jan and tried to get him in the January window. We may never have signed him if we didn't do the loan deal

We didn’t know if Allan was going to go back and play.

My guess, just like Allan, Middleton will be used at hibs as a shop window to get some money for the player. That’s why Allan was loaned to Rotherham then Dundee then us, to advertise him surplus, Middleton will be the same. Gerrard spends too much for him to ever get an actual chance at their cesspit.

[The Leith Dutch]

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All of a sudden we are not getting a player on loan, we are developing him for Rangers. Not once have I heard anyone on this board claim that we are developing a player for someone else with all of our previous loans. Now we get a player from Rangers on loan the outcry is hilarious. Get a grip FFS.

100% this.

If he'll make our team better then I'm delighted. My only concern is Hibernian football club.
It's like this mad nonsense when people would prefer Hearts to lose even when them winning clearly benefited Hibs.

The only reason not to do the deal would be if there was a deal that we could do instead that got us a player as good or better that
could play in all the matches or we could sign properly and sell on for a profit.

[CMurdoch]

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Thomas Agyepong

What is the big guy doing leaning on Thomas.
That'll be him out for a month!

[Greenfly]

I don't think we should allow loans within the same league - too many potential compromises involved - but regardless of what I think, them's the rules and I'm very confident Middleton could do a right good job for us. Get him in please.

[The Leith Dutch]

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I don't think we should allow loans within the same league - too many potential compromises involved - but regardless of what I think, them's the rules and I'm very confident Middleton could do a right good job for us. Get him in please.

Not on the Middleton signing - I agree, sign him up.

But on the loan restriction: I'd actually go further - no loans at all.
I'd put in place a squad size cap and say no loans as it then makes better players available to more clubs.
It always galls me to see players barely getting a game or being rotated at Man City for example when they'd be first on the team sheet at all but a handful of other clubs.

One thing American Sport does well generally is that every club has superstars.

[Nicho87]

Watched a video on YouTube of him. Never even realised until now he’s all left foot. Thought he was right. Can expect to see him on left unless hecky sees him on the right

[Iggy Pope]

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Just the various Celtic players and Boyle that I can remember. Everyone was perfectly happy when we took Liam Henderson on loan. Sure, we were in the league below, but we were still developing him for Celtic.

The fact is, we're not recruiting players to develop them. We recruit them to improve our side.

If they learn a bit while they're here, it's no skin off our nose. I understand why you find it galling, and I'd rather we didn't have to go down that road, but if he improves us, then I'm happy to swallow a bit of pride.

Bum.

[Chefki Kuqi]

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Bum.

Willy

[Iggy Pope]

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Willy

Not your fault Chefki. 40yr old joke. My fault.

[04Sauzee]

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Watched a video on YouTube of him. Never even realised until now he’s all left foot. Thought he was right. Can expect to see him on left unless hecky sees him on the right

I'd honestly recommend a few more videos, he's predominantly left footed but look very comfortable on his right in the clips I have seen

[Spike Mandela]

Can’t remember the last time Hibs got a player on loan from Rangers. I am sure some bright spark will remind me.

Suggests to me that Rangers are skint, with large legal bills coming down the pike and their loan dealings will be with whichever team is willing to pay more of the wages rather than a ‘preferred’ club.

[J-C]

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Can’t you remember us picking up Scotty Allan from the Celtic under 23s and potentially shop windowing him for other clubs? Only to be denied him once again because we decided to not bend over to Celtic over McGinn.

I’m sure you hated Allan back right enough.

We picked up Allan from WBA and then sold him to Celtic probably to spite Rangers at the time. Only reason he never came back to us on loan last summer or January is Lawell being a dick, Scotty had no hard feelings about the non loans and signed a pre contract.

[staunchhibby]

Does not matter to me where a player comes from he will have my support whenever he plays for our club.

[BILLYHIBS]

Derby hoping to appoint Wayne Rooney as Player Manager

[calumhibee1]

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Derby hoping to appoint Wayne Rooney as Player Manager

Think it’s just a player/coaching role. They’ve only just appointed Philip Cocu as manager.

[Todi114]

McNulty , omeanga and Henderson
none of them had success with their parent club
its a shop window for the players to show other clubs what they can do
money saved on wages for both clubs
win win

[The Leith Dutch]

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Derby hoping to appoint Wayne Rooney as Player Manager

Weirdly I'd forgotten that Wayne Rooney existed.
Mercifully, I've lost the brain cell holding the memory of the time I saw Wayne Rooney being interviewed in Hi Definition *shudders*

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Does player* improve Hibs?

Yes - sign
No - No sign

*where said player has criminal charges or is an unsavoury character then signing should be reviewed

[BILLYHIBS]

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Think it’s just a player/coaching role. They’ve only just appointed Philip Cocu as manager.

Getting ahead of myself as usual

Of course they did

Good win last night.

[JimBHibees]

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Just the various Celtic players and Boyle that I can remember. Everyone was perfectly happy when we took Liam Henderson on loan. Sure, we were in the league below, but we were still developing him for Celtic.

The fact is, we're not recruiting players to develop them. We recruit them to improve our side.

If they learn a bit while they're here, it's no skin off our nose. I understand why you find it galling, and I'd rather we didn't have to go down that road, but if he improves us, then I'm happy to swallow a bit of pride.

Absolutely the bottom line. All that matters is a player to improve our team. Not rocket science.

[JimBHibees]

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Not on the Middleton signing - I agree, sign him up.

But on the loan restriction: I'd actually go further - no loans at all.
I'd put in place a squad size cap and say no loans as it then makes better players available to more clubs.
It always galls me to see players barely getting a game or being rotated at Man City for example when they'd be first on the team sheet at all but a handful of other clubs.

One thing American Sport does well generally is that every club has superstars.

I think loan players should be able to play against their parent team as happens in other leagues.

[04Sauzee]

Wonder if there will be an announcement today?

[PatHead]

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We picked up Allan from WBA and then sold him to Celtic probably to spite Rangers at the time. Only reason he never came back to us on loan last summer or January is Lawell being a dick, Scotty had no hard feelings about the non loans and signed a pre contract.

We didn't sell him to Celtic to spite The Rangers. We sold him to Celtic as they offered us money while The Rangers tapped him up all summer and offered us buttons then made out we denied him his boyhood dream.

[MacGruber]

Putting aside the opinions on The Rangers and loan systems - any news on him signing or if he has had the medical yet?