Summer 2019 transfer thread

**NC1875** · 01-07-2019 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by PH91

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From what i read it seems the clause doesn't stipulate it must be an english club but england was the only country with a transfer window open to allow registration to happen.

Surely if he informed them he would be leaving then it was upto them to release him ? Making him a free agent who could then sign for whoever he wanted ?

***500miles*** · 01-07-2019 12:07 PM

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You would think they would prefer him to go to a different national league as opposed to being possibly an opponent to them next season

They're enforcing the contract to the letter, but you could argue not in the spirit of the agreement. I think we may well see him at Hibs as things rumble on.

***PH91*** · 01-07-2019 12:10 PM

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Surely if he informed them he would be leaving then it was upto them to release him ? Making him a free agent who could then sign for whoever he wanted ?

"This clause allowed Funso to leave if we went into League Two as long as by the end of May 31 he transferred to another club – that did not happen because the transfer window in Scotland until June 11."

Taken from https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/funso-ojo-latest-s****horpe-swann-3035195

**malcky** · 01-07-2019 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by PH91

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"This clause allowed Funso to leave if we went into League Two as long as by the end of May 31 he transferred to another club – that did not happen because the transfer window in Scotland until June 11."

Taken from https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/funso-ojo-latest-s****horpe-swann-3035195

That I understand cheers

**GloryGlory** · 01-07-2019 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hibernian32

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S****horpe thought his wage demands were ridiculous wonder what we offered him

It seems to suggest that the contract had a 50% wage cut in the case of relegation, but the agent wanted SUFC to increase the lower wage by 15% - still a cut.

I don't understand the club's position - it seems him and his agent activated the release clause, but because he wanted to come to a club in a league where the transfer window wasn't open at the time, the clause didn''t apply. Eh? Was the English window open before 31 May? Was any league in Europe (apart from amybe the ones with summer football)? What difference does it make if he has an offer from Hibs within a few days or if decided to wait until later in the window? He was already a free agent by 31 May, surely? Plus according to the agent, both him and Hibs had already contacted SUFC about their intentions.

I wonder if the PFA will get involved.

**NC1875** · 01-07-2019 12:19 PM

So if he signed for a team in England they’d pat him on the back and say goodbye. S****horpe are at it. They were happy to put the clause in when he signed now they’re trying to wriggle out of it.

**Hibee Mac** · 01-07-2019 12:26 PM

Don't like to see this kind of thing from S****horpe, you made an agreement and now trying to get out of it on a mere technicality.

Yes this may be in the contract but it's not in their best interest to have a legal battle or a player who doesn't want to be there, just honour the spirit of the deal.

**craigiehibs** · 01-07-2019 12:39 PM

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Don't like to see this kind of thing from S****horpe, you made an agreement and now trying to get out of it on a mere technicality.

Yes this may be in the contract but it's not in their best interest to have a legal battle or a player who doesn't want to be there, just honour the spirit of the deal.

dont claim to be ITK but given that he was one if PHs first choices, we had him in edinburgh in May, agreed personal terms and a 3 year contract, id be surprised if we dont settle at c 5ok or so - theyre skint, been relegated and will want him off wage bill as he wont play for them....save a bit of face for their chairman??

**Greenbeard** · 01-07-2019 12:41 PM

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Got told by a mate who is very friendly with an ER staff member that Kamberi is wanting away, seemingly wants to play centrally but with Doidge coming and still possibly McNulty it looks like they might want to play him wider again, also one of the top earners it would free up his wage which might not be a bad thing.

As for Whittaker, Hecky's letting others out there know he's fit and ready to play, I'd be astonished if Whittaker was a regular this season, or even on the bench.

Pleased to hear this tbh. He can prob do a decent enough job for someone running through on to balls hoofed speculatively up the park (would he dare cross to Duncanland?) but he's had his chances here and we need someone with a better first touch.
Agree re Whittaker being too slow now to be a first-choice regular. Would be targetted for sure. But maybe a role slotting in as cover towards the end of games already won?

**ekhibee** · 01-07-2019 12:44 PM

A Celtic fan in my work says that it looks like Tierney's away to Arsenal. £25 million was what he quoted, but the BBC website it said £19 million, and seemingly Napoli have been sniffing about as well.

***JimBHibees*** · 01-07-2019 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by GloryGlory

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It seems to suggest that the contract had a 50% wage cut in the case of relegation, but the agent wanted SUFC to increase the lower wage by 15% - still a cut.

I don't understand the club's position - it seems him and his agent activated the release clause, but because he wanted to come to a club in a league where the transfer window wasn't open at the time, the clause didn''t apply. Eh? Was the English window open before 31 May? Was any league in Europe (apart from amybe the ones with summer football)? What difference does it make if he has an offer from Hibs within a few days or if decided to wait until later in the window? He was already a free agent by 31 May, surely? Plus according to the agent, both him and Hibs had already contacted SUFC about their intentions.

I wonder if the PFA will get involved.

I think the best for all would be a small payment to Scunny and he moves to Hibs.

***WhileTheChief..*** · 01-07-2019 12:51 PM

What’s with all the McGeoch chat?

Heckingbottom said he wasn’t interested at all the other day. Has something changed since then?

***Mikey*** · 01-07-2019 12:53 PM

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What’s with all the McGeoch chat?

Heckingbottom said he wasn’t interested at all the other day. Has something changed since then?

Only that lots of toys have been thrown out of lots of prams.

**sean04** · 01-07-2019 12:56 PM

McNulty has been told to find a new club

**Wilson** · 01-07-2019 12:57 PM

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McNulty has been told to find a new club

His golf must be getting worse.

**sean04** · 01-07-2019 12:59 PM

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His golf must be getting worse.

Haha hopefully we can get him on a free if there clearing players out

***Oscar T Grouch*** · 01-07-2019 12:59 PM

Southamptons announcement for their new signing is pretty funny.

https://twitter.com/SouthamptonFC/st...48211912208384

**Onceinawhile** · 01-07-2019 01:00 PM

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Haha hopefully we can get him on a free if there clearing players out

Not going to happen after they paid the best part of £1,000,000 for him.

I'd take Mcnulty back, but I wouldn't be keen to spend big cash on him tbh.

**sean04** · 01-07-2019 01:01 PM

Mcnulty part of a group of players who hasn't travelled to there pre season camp in Spain

***Heisenberg*** · 01-07-2019 01:04 PM

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Mcnulty part of a group of players who hasn't travelled to there pre season camp in Spain

I think it was always going to happen like this. Won’t make any difference to us unless Reading drop their asking price or agree to another loan.

***PH91*** · 01-07-2019 01:05 PM

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It seems to suggest that the contract had a 50% wage cut in the case of relegation, but the agent wanted SUFC to increase the lower wage by 15% - still a cut.

I don't understand the club's position - it seems him and his agent activated the release clause, but because he wanted to come to a club in a league where the transfer window wasn't open at the time, the clause didn''t apply. Eh? Was the English window open before 31 May? Was any league in Europe (apart from amybe the ones with summer football)? What difference does it make if he has an offer from Hibs within a few days or if decided to wait until later in the window? He was already a free agent by 31 May, surely? Plus according to the agent, both him and Hibs had already contacted SUFC about their intentions.

I wonder if the PFA will get involved.

It was a release clause not the end of his contract. He had to have transferred to another club otherwise his contract there would continue, albeit on a lower wage. As another poster has said, hopefully hibs can pay a nominal fee and all can walk away without a legal battle. It seems like hibs have wanted him for a while and were building a team based on having him so would be a blow for it not to happen.

**sean04** · 01-07-2019 01:07 PM

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I think it was always going to happen like this. Won’t make any difference to us unless Reading drop their asking price or agree to another loan.

Really depends how hard mcnulty pushes it. If he digs his heals in and says he's only wanting to back to Scotland then reading either pay his wages to not even be in there squad or cut there loses

**GloryGlory** · 01-07-2019 01:10 PM

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It was a release clause not the end of his contract. He had to have transferred to another club otherwise his contract there would continue, albeit on a lower wage. As another poster has said, hopefully hibs can pay a nominal fee and all can walk away without a legal battle. It seems like hibs have wanted him for a while and were building a team based on having him so would be a blow for it not to happen.

I'm beginning to think that SUFC have been a bit sly in this - someone mentioned the letter but not the spirit of the contract. A relegation release clause should mean just that, surely?

Anyway, I am sure Petrie and Dempster will be playing their usual hardball. If we come to an agreement, fine. If not, we move on.

One thing's for sure - SUFC have to get this sorted or they are going to have one very disgruntled player on their books for another year.

**Wilson** · 01-07-2019 01:14 PM

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One thing's for sure - SUFC have to get this sorted or they are going to have one very disgruntled player on their books for another year.

Yes. And incoming players will see how they 'honor' their contracts and think twice before signing.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 01-07-2019 01:18 PM

Stevie Mallan started the season much further forward than the position he ended up playing under PH, the goals and assists from that deeper position diminished after that move.

So comparing their stats is a little unbalanced, and if we play Mallan as that deep lying midfielder who starts things off, then Dylan in my opinion is a much better player in that role.

I'd love him back, but i dont think it will happen.

**~~The 90+2~~** · 01-07-2019 01:24 PM

Mark Milligan joins Southend

***J-C*** · 01-07-2019 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

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More on the Ojo saga

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/s...mpression=true

The agent states there is no additional clauses in the contract, looks like Scu nthorpe are at it, may not have been to an English club at a certain date but the release clause was still there.