Summer 2019 transfer thread

[we are hibs]

People rewriting history with mcgeouch. Laughable how some can change opinion at the drop of a hat when a player makes a decision they don't like. Mcgeouch was a fantastic player for us. A very intelligent player and we were a far better side with him in it. If he goes to Aberdeen and produces a season like his final one at hibs then the same people will be up in arms about us not going for him.

Hecky might have his own ideas and players in mind. And he's got to he trusted to do so but I get where some people are coming from cause we've no idea whether heckingbottom is recruiting players that will be a success here as he has no track record of signings at hibs yet whereas we know mcgeouch was a success here.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Sunderland are big club and unfortunately for him it hasnt worked out .... do you think he left thinking great i hope this move doesnt work out for me , been many players sign for us with high hopes and it hasnt worked out for them , works both ways !!

I'd swap Dylan for Mallan every day of the week if they were to play the position Mallan did after PH came in.

[Onceinawhile]

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I like Dylan but I never really got the adulation he received from so many on here. As others have said he's certainly not a defensive midfield player. I still remember his error in the cup semi versus Falkirk. He's also definitely not an attacking midfielder. His record of 2 open play goals in well over 100 games is very poor. The frustration is he has the talent to play a much more creative & attacking role, his goal versus Sheep in cup was superb & may be why McInnes is a fan. He was great at retaining possession & making space for others & while I would have welcomed him back I have faith that PH has a structure & plan in place. We move on.

What error did he make in the semi v Falkirk?

I loved Dylan as a player, always in space, always willing to take the ball and rarely lost the ball.

His scoring record is absolutely woeful, but still better than (for example) Marvin Bartley.

[Callum_62]

Dylan unveiled at East Mains tomorrow.....

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[Peevemor]

The first thing PH did when he came in was to get the players wearing the tracking system stuff again. He says he wants to play a high pressing game, something we rarely managed with last season's squad. He's already said that the players are going to be fitter than they've ever been.

At the latest press conference when asked about Scott Allan, he answered that we won't build a team around any player. It's the players that are required to fit into the system we'll play.

For me it's no great surprise that he's not interested in Dylan. Yes he's a great player, but maybe not the correct piece for Hecky's jigsaw.

[BILLYHIBS]

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Dylan unveiled at East Mains tomorrow.....

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[truehibernian]

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What error did he make in the semi v Falkirk?

I loved Dylan as a player, always in space, always willing to take the ball and rarely lost the ball.

His scoring record is absolutely woeful, but still better than (for example) Marvin Bartley.

And there lies the rub for me. Dylan was and is a lovely footballer but his scoring record is terrible, as is his injury record (which I feel has always been psychosomatic - as did Lennon). He also played very 'safe' football. Marvin was good for the Championship but found out completely in the top league and especially last season when he was woeful.

The next signing in midfield has to be tenacious and combative but with a physical edge to his game - to allow the likes of Allan, Mallan, Newell and Horgan to flourish. Dylan isn't that player. We also need that player to chip in with a goal or two. Often I saw DM have opportunities to shoot but he chose to pass and pass the responsibility to someone else. Strange because with confidence he has that in his locker.

Mulumbu being released is interesting - he'd be ideal in that role for me.

[Frazerbob]

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And there lies the rub for me. Dylan was and is a lovely footballer but his scoring record is terrible, as is his injury record (which I feel has always been psychosomatic - as did Lennon). He also played very 'safe' football. Marvin was good for the Championship but found out completely in the top league and especially last season when he was woeful.

The next signing in midfield has to be tenacious and combative but with a physical edge to his game - to allow the likes of Allan, Mallan, Newell and Horgan to flourish. Dylan isn't that player. We also need that player to chip in with a goal or two. Often I saw DM have opportunities to shoot but he chose to pass and pass the responsibility to someone else. Strange because with confidence he has that in his locker.

Mulumbu being released is interesting - he'd be ideal in that role for me.

Why do believe his injury issues have ‘always been psychosomatic’?

[crash]

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People rewriting history with mcgeouch. Laughable how some can change opinion at the drop of a hat when a player makes a decision they don't like. Mcgeouch was a fantastic player for us. A very intelligent player and we were a far better side with him in it. If he goes to Aberdeen and produces a season like his final one at hibs then the same people will be up in arms about us not going for him.

Hecky might have his own ideas and players in mind. And he's got to he trusted to do so but I get where some people are coming from cause we've no idea whether heckingbottom is recruiting players that will be a success here as he has no track record of signings at hibs yet whereas we know mcgeouch was a success here.

100% this, McGeoch is a legend at ER, an international class midfielder, a great football player who played in arguably the best midfield trio seen here in the last forty years. This will put pressure on the new signings and the manager, and could come back to haunt him.

[truehibernian]

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Why do believe his injury issues have ‘always been psychosomatic’?

Because I think they were in his head a lot of the time.

[Brightside]

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Because I think they were in his head a lot of the time.

They weren't.

[The_Horde]

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100% this, McGeoch is a legend at ER, an international class midfielder, a great football player who played in arguably the best midfield trio seen here in the last forty years. This will put pressure on the new signings and the manager, and could come back to haunt him.

Hecky won't sign Mcgeouch but wants to play Whittaker.

[truehibernian]

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They weren't.

And that's fair doos underscore, I think a lot of the time they were - he's a lovely footballer, very tidy on the ball. But Lennon and a couple of other of backroom staff thought so. Lennon went on record saying so before his final season with us.

[J-C]

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And that's fair doos underscore, I think a lot of the time they were - he's a lovely footballer, very tidy on the ball. But Lennon and a couple of other of backroom staff thought so. Lennon went on record saying so before his final season with us.

Better get the specialist in London to give him his money back then.

[Michael]

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Hecky won't sign Mcgeouch but wants to play Whittaker.

He just signed a new right back...

[J-C]

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Hecky won't sign Mcgeouch but wants to play Whittaker.

Where is he quoted saying this, the new RB won't be impressed.

[truehibernian]

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Better get the specialist in London to give him his money back then.

The injuries were there, it was his 'robustness' and time taken to get over them that perhaps were not. Not going to debate it further - management at the club thought the same and went on record and spoke to the player about it. His form and in particular his game time improved thereafter. Of course you could argue that seeing the specialist worked wonders........I think after his serious injury pre-season at Celtic it's always been at the back of his mind.

I rate DM a lot as a footballer as I said. Your opinion and mine will be at odds re. the injury stuff. And that's fine.

[04Sauzee]

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Hecky won't sign Mcgeouch but wants to play Whittaker.

Didn't know that when did he say that?

[Ringothedog]

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Where is he quoted saying this, the new RB won't be impressed.

It’s just made up nonsense

[Heisenberg]

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Didn't know that when did he say that?

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2019/0...rwich-rangers/

He just says he’s hoping to get him in the side and there’s a place in the team for him if he can perform to a high standard. There is absolutely no chance Whittaker will be a regular for us next season.

[The 90+2]

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It’s just made up nonsense

It’s not actually. PH is quoted saying there’s a place in the team for SW.

[CapitalGreen]

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http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2019/0...rwich-rangers/

He just says he’s hoping to get him in the side and there’s a place in the team for him if he can perform to a high standard. There is absolutely no chance Whittaker will be a regular for us next season.

He’s been unable to show that for nearly 2 years so unlikely he’ll feature much this season.

[Iain G]

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And there lies the rub for me. Dylan was and is a lovely footballer but his scoring record is terrible, as is his injury record (which I feel has always been psychosomatic - as did Lennon). He also played very 'safe' football. Marvin was good for the Championship but found out completely in the top league and especially last season when he was woeful.

The next signing in midfield has to be tenacious and combative but with a physical edge to his game - to allow the likes of Allan, Mallan, Newell and Horgan to flourish. Dylan isn't that player. We also need that player to chip in with a goal or two. Often I saw DM have opportunities to shoot but he chose to pass and pass the responsibility to someone else. Strange because with confidence he has that in his locker.

Mulumbu being released is interesting - he'd be ideal in that role for me.

Did I not read that the manager has said he wants someone who sits deep, takes the ball in from the defence and starts things moving. If that isn't a McGeough role am not sure what is? He was like Boozy that he could take a pass in tight space and keep it and move it, not many of them around.

[truehibernian]

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Did I not read that the manager has said he wants someone who sits deep, takes the ball in from the defence and starts things moving. If that isn't a McGeough role am not sure what is? He was like Boozy that he could take a pass in tight space and keep it and move it, not many of them around.

I agree DM was good at that, but PH has also said this week that he expects the likes of Allan to do that role too at times (the Dylan type role). I do think the current midfield needs some real combativeness however. And the likes of Boozy are a rarity in our league (I agree).........he was one of the best footballers I've seen at Hibs

[Nicho87]

Beuzelin was in a different league. Always remember was at the Kilmarnock away game at new year when he suffered the bad injury. Wasn’t the same player coming back imo.

[weecounty hibby]

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All very well backing Heckingbottom’s judgement but I’d be surprised if he can get better than mcgeogh as a defensive mid.


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Sunderland seemed to have no problem in getting better in their opinion. Dylan was good for is and I rate him but seriously, can't get better??

[Unseen work]

McGeouch is a very good player but did we miss him last season or would he have made a big difference? I’m not convinced.

Mallan can do what he does and has a better range of passing making our turn over in play a lot faster and create more 1 vs 1s, he also got more goals and assists this season that McGeouch did in his 3 years here.

What we need is energy, legs and a physical presence in the middle of the park.

This season imo we lacked creativity going forward - We’ve signed Allan, Newell and Doidge

Milligan and Mallan between them down The McGeouch role, I think what Heck is looking for is a more balanced squad with players that can do various roles, not just one player to tackle, one to pass, one to create etc etc.

However would I take him back? Absolutely. However Heckingbottom doesn’t have a limitless amount of money to spend so will have to use it wisely and prioritise the type of player and position he needs - which is what he seems to be doing.

Also can’t believe how underrated Mallan is, he came on leaps and bounds under Heckingbottom and was starting to look good defensively.

[matty_f]

Dylan is a cracking player, one of the best I've seen at knowing how to dictate the pace of a game. There were moments in matches where he made the difficult look effortless. I'd be amazed if there wasn't space for him in our midfield, no matter how we line up.

I really don't want to see him sign for Aberdeen, if he was coming back to Scotland and we weren't in for him, I'd be disappointed.

[HibeeJude]

Before Dylan left there were many on here claiming he was a better player than SJM, now he’s away folk are pretending they don’t want him back. Madness

[Zazu62]

Aberdeen would be strong with Bryson and Mcgeouch in midfield