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    Quote Originally Posted by jonty View Post
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    The UK Govt removing the feed-in-tariffs hasn't helped adoption of solar panels.
    Is there sufficient efficiency in them yet to benefit deployment in Scotland? I wouldn't be surprised if we'd benefit more from domestic wind turbines (we seem to live in a wind tunnel)
    Solar panels don't need sunny days, just daylight. But why not both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Solar panels don't need sunny days, just daylight. But why not both?
    I'd also like some stonking batteries to hold the surplus.

    Tesla seems like a good idea (roof tiles and battery) but always seem to be just around the corner.
    This time next year I hope to be in a position to have something installed. I just don't know what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonty View Post
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    I'd also like some stonking batteries to hold the surplus.

    Tesla seems like a good idea (roof tiles and battery) but always seem to be just around the corner.
    This time next year I hope to be in a position to have something installed. I just don't know what.
    Well worth a look at this and get a better idea of what you can do.

    https://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/scotland
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    Solar farms are being built now. Even up here in perthshire, and battery storage is included so the power can be released when needed.
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    Solar farms.

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    Sorry I never read the previous posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Solar farms are being built now. Even up here in perthshire, and battery storage is included so the power can be released when needed.
    I wasnít aware the Errol site had storage, nor does the one planned for Moray.

    They are tiny though in terms of power 20-50mw. Peterhead gas for example is something like 1,500mw and Torness 1,200mw

    Still renewables is all about multiple sites and Scotland is already a net exporter of electricity so no reason for these types of sites not to keep adding to the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    I wasnít aware the Errol site had storage, nor does the one planned for Moray.

    They are tiny though in terms of power 20-50mw. Peterhead gas for example is something like 1,500mw and Torness 1,200mw

    Still renewables is all about multiple sites and Scotland is already a net exporter of electricity so no reason for these types of sites not to keep adding to the mix.
    Erroll doesn't but the Abernethy one will /does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Erroll doesn't but the Abernethy one will /does.
    Thanks. My google skills are clearly lacking as I canít find details on that...any links or info on what type of battery is being used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    Thanks. My google skills are clearly lacking as I canít find details on that...any links or info on what type of battery is being used?
    I'll look in the morning.

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    On tree planting, none should be on areas of deep peat as the peat is already a carbon sink.
    Any idea how many average trees the average late 20th century home would have to have on site to be carbon neutral? I'm guessing very many, but would be interested to know whether local tree planting, in addition to reforestation elsewhere, could be of any significance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    I think that's only domestic property, offices, commercial development, industrial units don't, and that's where a big difference could be made.

    District heating schemes are normal on the continent but we are only getting going on them.
    I think you're right in terms of it being for domestic and spot on about needing it to be on commercial development too.



    As for the storage point, I believe that to be the main stumbling block at the moment for renewable energy and will be the next big step the industry can make. Finding the most efficient way to store energy.

    Quite often you can go past turbines and there will be some not moving, safe from them being faulty it's because the farm is generating too much power for the grid which can't all be used. Once we can safely and efficiently store all the excess for another time we'll be in a much better place with our energy mix.

    I was sure I read that Scotland managed a day fully powered by renewables last year, but I can't find the article anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    I wasnít aware the Errol site had storage, nor does the one planned for Moray.

    They are tiny though in terms of power 20-50mw. Peterhead gas for example is something like 1,500mw and Torness 1,200mw

    Still renewables is all about multiple sites and Scotland is already a net exporter of electricity so no reason for these types of sites not to keep adding to the mix.
    Jamesfield will have 2 storage facilities 30mW and 19mW of storage, and they will be Tesla batteries. At least it's a step in the right direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Any idea how many average trees the average late 20th century home would have to have on site to be carbon neutral? I'm guessing very many, but would be interested to know whether local tree planting, in addition to reforestation elsewhere, could be of any significance.
    I don't know but I am watching the Scotland from the sky and they have just flown over ravenscraig and natural regeneration has made the steelwork a birch woodland.

    My garden is 1/4 acres and there was an old plum and cherry tree when I moved here, last year I coppiced 5 trees for my stoves and will do the same this year, 5 to 7 years cycle of coppicing and I have fuel and the trees continue to grow.
    #Persevered
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    Here is a Frightening fact, the wind farm on Eaglesham Moor, whitelee has the same footprint as Aberdeen!
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    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/0...mpression=true

    Decent article that mentions Beyond Meat which was mentioned earlier in the thread.


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    https://www.scotsman.com/news/transp...mpression=true

    Good idea.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Here is a Frightening fact, the wind farm on Eaglesham Moor, whitelee has the same footprint as Aberdeen!
    The print of fit fit, though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/0...mpression=true

    Decent article that mentions Beyond Meat which was mentioned earlier in the thread.


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    It also tackles the socialism vs capitalism argument that was taking place.

    I'm going to declare myself on the fence on that one. Capitalism will be what makes us win the battle but it cannot be done without government policy and intervention. If the markets are left all alone then carnage (eventually) happens. You can see the real forces of capitalism at play with the climate change deniers in the USA.

    Socialism alone would never manage it either though.

    I always find the socialism vs capitalism debate quite interesting. In all honesty we need a mixed economy at all times, some socialism and some capitalism and depending on where we happen to be at any particular moment we can swing back and forth between whether or not we need more of one or the other.

    Interesting article, and one you could probably re-write word word word with the title "climate change will never be beaten without government intervention and policy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    It also tackles the socialism vs capitalism argument that was taking place.

    I'm going to declare myself on the fence on that one. Capitalism will be what makes us win the battle but it cannot be done without government policy and intervention. If the markets are left all alone then carnage (eventually) happens. You can see the real forces of capitalism at play with the climate change deniers in the USA.

    Socialism alone would never manage it either though.

    I always find the socialism vs capitalism debate quite interesting. In all honesty we need a mixed economy at all times, some socialism and some capitalism and depending on where we happen to be at any particular moment we can swing back and forth between whether or not we need more of one or the other.

    Interesting article, and one you could probably re-write word word word with the title "climate change will never be beaten without government intervention and policy".
    I think the article agrees with you. Govt needs to set out the targets we want to achieve and allow capitalism to provide the solutions.
    i.e. start charging for releasing carbon and let the market then find ways of avoiding that cost.


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