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    New rules coming into play from next season

    Didn't see this mentioned already:
    • Managers to get yellow and red cards.
    • No opposition players allowed in defensive walls.
    • Accidental handball goals now won't be given.
    • And players leave the side of the pitch they are on when called to be sub.


    Surely the most controversial one after all that's been happening is the sub one. Imagine an old firm player going off at the other side of the pitch all the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Didn't see this mentioned already:
    • Managers to get yellow and red cards.
    • No opposition players allowed in defensive walls.
    • Accidental handball goals now won't be given.
    • And players leave the side of the pitch they are on when called to be sub.


    Surely the most controversial one after all that's been happening is the sub one. Imagine an old firm player going off at the other side of the pitch all the time.
    I thought the sub one was sensible - you see teams time-wasting all the time where the sub is made and the player coming off makes sure he's on the furthest away side to run the clock down. Now the ref can tell him to leave the pitch where he is and the sub can come on.

    The handballed goals are going to cause some stir, though.
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    If the ball hits your arm/hand it should be a foul regardless if it's accidental or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbycraig View Post
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    If the ball hits your arm/hand it should be a foul regardless if it's accidental or not.

    In La Liga its an automatic booking regardless if its accidental or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    I thought the sub one was sensible - you see teams time-wasting all the time where the sub is made and the player coming off makes sure he's on the furthest away side to run the clock down. Now the ref can tell him to leave the pitch where he is and the sub can come on.

    The handballed goals are going to cause some stir, though.
    Player comes off in a derby behind the goal at the away end then has to go past the other dugout to get to his, could end up carnage. Time wasting should = cancellation of sub and the guy coming off stays off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    In La Liga its an automatic booking regardless if its accidental or not.
    What I have always thought is that if the rule states that it needs to be “deliberate” for a handball to be given, then every handball should be a booking as that rule states a deliberate handball is a yellow card offence

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Didn't see this mentioned already:
    • Managers to get yellow and red cards.
    • No opposition players allowed in defensive walls.
    • Accidental handball goals now won't be given.
    • And players leave the side of the pitch they are on when called to be sub.


    Surely the most controversial one after all that's been happening is the sub one. Imagine an old firm player going off at the other side of the pitch all the time.
    Where did you see all this? They all sound good to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Player comes off in a derby behind the goal at the away end then has to go past the other dugout to get to his, could end up carnage. Time wasting should = cancellation of sub and the guy coming off stays off.
    Is behind the goals an end or also a side?That said even if it is just sides then a player may have to walk past opposition fans particularly if they are the away team.

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    Sub one is ridiculous and asking for trouble at places like Tynecastle. Is this a Scottish football thing or are we just copying England again?

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    Sub one is ridiculous and asking for trouble at places like Tynecastle. Is this a Scottish football thing or are we just copying England again?
    It’s an IFAB thing, who govern the laws of the game. I don’t think the sub one will be getting applied in heated derbies, more your run of the mill games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Didn't see this mentioned already:
    • Managers to get yellow and red cards.
    • No opposition players allowed in defensive walls.
    • Accidental handball goals now won't be given.
    • And players leave the side of the pitch they are on when called to be sub.


    Surely the most controversial one after all that's been happening is the sub one. Imagine an old firm player going off at the other side of the pitch all the time.


    The one in bold makes no sense. Did you pick that up wrong?

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    McInnes will be raging about the sub one, Aberdeen will probably lose about 10 points per season because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diclonius View Post
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    McInnes will be raging about the sub one, Aberdeen will probably lose about 10 points per season because of that.

    Dragging the ar5e out of leaving the pitch should be an automatic booking.

    I'd also add standing in front of a guy whose trying to take a thow-in or free kick, throwing yourself to the ground as soon as somebody even lays a finger on you... and being an Aberdeen or Hearts player (which obviously implies being a total rat).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    The one in bold makes no sense. Did you pick that up wrong?
    I'm with you on this one. What's an accidental hadball goal?

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    Is it true that rebounds from penalties won't be allowed anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Sub one is ridiculous and asking for trouble at places like Tynecastle. Is this a Scottish football thing or are we just copying England again?
    I think you'll be able to count the number of times that happens in the next 10 years on one hand.

    Once it beds in, referees will administer the law sensibly. It's designed to stop time wasting, not for putting players at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Is it true that rebounds from penalties won't be allowed anymore?
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    That's what they were talking about on The Debate the other night.

    It seemed like a daft idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    In La Liga its an automatic booking regardless if its accidental or not.
    I think they ditched that after 1 season because of the number of red cards...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFC_NYC View Post
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    I'm with you on this one. What's an accidental hadball goal?
    It’s fairly straight-forward. If a striker accidentally scores with his hand it now won’t be given

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    Re the sub one - can't the ref just stop the clock till the substitution is complete?
    Better than risking players running the gauntlet of slavering huns and jambos.

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    Think they missed the goal on this one - the 2 new laws I would have brought in are

    An injured player - medic is allowed onto the pitch and play continues unless serious injury. If play is stopped player must remain off the pitch for 1-2 minutes. This would cut out play acting / fake injuries.

    2nd one more contentious - Orange or whatever colour you wanted for 2nd booking and a period in a sin bin. As long as not for serious foul play, denying a clear goal scoring opportunity in that case its a red.

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    how does the "no attackers in the wall" thing work...how close do you have to be to be "in" the wall ? If you stand 6 inches in front of the wall are you still in it ? or 6 inches to one side ? confused.

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    Not Retreating 10 yards at a free kick should either be an automatic yellow or penalized another 10 yards and if it means a penalty then sobeit

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    how does the "no attackers in the wall" thing work...how close do you have to be to be "in" the wall ? If you stand 6 inches in front of the wall are you still in it ? or 6 inches to one side ? confused.
    Needs to be better defined

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    Also thought at a bye kick if the defender goes into the box to get the ball it's fair game rather than a retake

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    Quote Originally Posted by houstonhibbee View Post
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    Needs to be better defined
    As I understand it an attacking player must be no closer than 1 metre from the wall.

    One change I’d like to see is that if a player has to go off after treatment, the player that fouled him should also go off. The current rule means the ‘wronged’ team are penalised by going down to ten men.
    This is how it feels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
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    As I understand it an attacking player must be no closer than 1 metre from the wall.

    One change I’d like to see is that if a player has to go off after treatment, the player that fouled him should also go off. The current rule means the ‘wronged’ team are penalised by going down to ten men.
    That would just lead to more players needing treatment.

    The idea of a player needing to go off was to try and reduce the amount of times the physio was called on. I think it’s worked to some degree.

    Maybe they just need to tweak the rule about how the player is allowed back on, seems to take an age sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by houstonhibbee View Post
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    Also thought at a bye kick if the defender goes into the box to get the ball it's fair game rather than a retake
    It’s a bit of an odd rule that the offence is ‘punished’ by a simple retake.

    Either there needs to be some sort of proper punishment (free kick to the opposition or the like) or they should just scrap the rule altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    Dragging the ar5e out of leaving the pitch should be an automatic booking.
    I don't understand why it isn't already. Probably because the masters of gamesmanship Barca and Real use it all the time (as well as screaming at the ref for literally everything).

    I remember a derby at Tynie a few years ago where they were winning and the Greek full back Fyssas got subbed off in what was his last home appearance for them. He turned it into an impromptu ****ing leaving party, going round shaking the hands of all the players near him and not even attempting to walk towards the dugout. Not so much as a warning.

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