Willie McKay and Emiliano Salah

[The 90+2]

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**** Cardiff. Hope they go to the wall.

This.

[Here’s Lucy!]

[QUOTE=chrisski33;5705009]Sala u mean 😀[/QUOTE

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The transfer fee has been the elephant in the room since the plane disappeared and it was just a question of time before the grubby issue of moneys due broke free.

Monies, you mean?

[Topographic Hibby]

Sorry to talk about money and business when two people have died, but....

Back in the day when I worked in Financial Services, if a business (eg Cardiff City) had a valuable and costly asset (eg Emiliano Salah), you would insure that asset/person against loss (eg his death, sorry again for the cold. heartless business terms being used here).

Wonder if Cardiff have tried to save a few quid on insurance premiums or been a bit slow in sorting out a policy. IIRC, was called Keyman Insurance or similar? Think a few clubs and insurance agents might be scurrying around and sorting out policies for players that are hopping off and on private planes etc.

[MrRobot]

Pure **** behaviour from Cardiff, hope they get relegated.

[calumhibee1]

Cardiff appealing the decision. ****bags.

[Bristolhibby]

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Sorry to talk about money and business when two people have died, but....

Back in the day when I worked in Financial Services, if a business (eg Cardiff City) had a valuable and costly asset (eg Emiliano Salah), you would insure that asset/person against loss (eg his death, sorry again for the cold. heartless business terms being used here).

Wonder if Cardiff have tried to save a few quid on insurance premiums or been a bit slow in sorting out a policy. IIRC, was called Keyman Insurance or similar? Think a few clubs and insurance agents might be scurrying around and sorting out policies for players that are hopping off and on private planes etc.

Worked with a City Law firm in the past and they had their global Partners meeting in Las Vegas (I know tough gig). The Partner I was working with told me that all the Partners from the London office were being split by speciality and seniority into 5 separate flights over two days.

The firm could not afford for all the Partners being on one flight and that flight crashing. The loss would have effectively folded the firm.

Amazing but if business continuity that I had not given a single thought to.

J

[jgl07]

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Worked with a City Law firm in the past and they had their global Partners meeting in Las Vegas (I know tough gig). The Partner I was working with told me that all the Partners from the London office were being split by speciality and seniority into 5 separate flights over two days.

The firm could not afford for all the Partners being on one flight and that flight crashing. The loss would have effectively folded the firm.

J

They should have got Willie McKay to book them on a number of flights in two-seater planes with unlicensed pilots?

[Hibeesmad]

Cardiff now suggesting that Nantes played a part in the death of Sala.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-wa...mpression=true

[cabbageandribs1875]

they are determined not to pay a single frikkin penny, shameless gits

[HH81]

As if this is still going on. Crazy really. Two guys died ffs.

[Cataplana]

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Sorry to talk about money and business when two people have died, but....

Back in the day when I worked in Financial Services, if a business (eg Cardiff City) had a valuable and costly asset (eg Emiliano Salah), you would insure that asset/person against loss (eg his death, sorry again for the cold. heartless business terms being used here).

Wonder if Cardiff have tried to save a few quid on insurance premiums or been a bit slow in sorting out a policy. IIRC, was called Keyman Insurance or similar? Think a few clubs and insurance agents might be scurrying around and sorting out policies for players that are hopping off and on private planes etc.

The policy would probably be void the minute you got into a plane where the pilot didn't have the correct licence.

[Scouse Hibee]

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The policy would probably be void the minute you got into a plane where the pilot didn't have the correct licence.

Not sure it would be, life insurance isn’t void if an unlicensed driver kills you.

[Cataplana]

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Not sure it would be, life insurance isn’t void if an unlicensed driver kills you.

Keyman policies tend to have much stricter terms and conditions.

[Scouse Hibee]

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Keyman policies tend to have much stricter terms and conditions.

Okay fair enough.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Emiliano Sala: Fatal flight organiser David Henderson convicted - BBC News

The organiser of the flight in which footballer Emiliano Sala died has been found guilty of endangering the safety of an aircraft.

Henderson had asked Mr Ibbotson to fly the plane as he was away on holiday with his wife in Paris.


Just moments after finding out the plane had gone down, Henderson texted a number of people telling them to stay silent, warning it would "open a can of worms", the jury was told.


The father-of-three and former RAF officer admitted in court he had feared an investigation into his business dealings.


enjoy jail ****

[cabbageandribs1875]

i think Cardiff are determined not to pay a penny Emiliano Sala: Cardiff City lose appeal in payment dispute with Nantes - BBC Sport

Cardiff City have lost their appeal against a ruling by Fifa to pay the first instalment of Emiliano Sala's £15m transfer fee to Nantes.
Argentine striker Sala died in a plane crash over the English channel in January 2019 while travelling from France to join his new club.

A three-man panel at the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) heard the appeal in Lausanne earlier this year.
Cardiff must now pay the first instalment of £5.3m to Nantes.

[JDT]

There's a good podcast about Sala on BBC sounds called Transfer. Worth a listen, it's opened my eyes to a lot of stuff I didn't know. Willie Mackay does not come across well to say the least

[JimBHibees]

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There's a good podcast about Sala on BBC sounds called Transfer. Worth a listen, it's opened my eyes to a lot of stuff I didn't know. Willie Mackay does not come across well to say the least

Did he ever encapsulates everything wrong with modern day football

[BILLYHIBS]

A few well kent names on this thread no longer with us

A blast from the past

[JDT]

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Did he ever encapsulates everything wrong with modern day football

You're spot on. He's a email Mackay sent Sala about moving to Cardiff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/asam1a/willie_mckay_full_email_to_emiliano_sala_before/

[Lendo]

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You're spot on. He's a email Mackay sent Sala about moving to Cardiff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comm...o_sala_before/

Can’t believe I’ve never seen that before. Absolutely unbelievable, close the being an email from a Nigerian Prince.

Did Sala speak English? It was a hard read for a native English speaker.

[ZitellZeTime]

Aye i read about the Cardiff appeal thing on BBC football site yesterda, was shocked that **** is going on. I forgot about it but honestly thought it had been settled by now.

Mckay is a ****ing ****bag like, that reddit post with his communications with Sala comes across as the **** I thought he was.

" .We are not interested in looking after your personal interests, finance, holidays.,Baby-sitting is not our market" . What a ****ing tit, some of the other **** just confirms he's even worse than the ****bag we knew he was with Broony and KT, is his agent group thing with his sons still in football?

Also was mad going through that, think I saw posts from 5 or 6 people all scored out and in maroon "left by mutual consent". I remember my first account on here was faxed back to kaunas for disagreeing with some ITK guy.

I'm sure one of those who left in this post I met at the bus stop at top of Leith Walk heading on to London Road I met with some of those tiny football flags on strings you can hang up and scarves and stuff I found from the 70's I put on ebay a few years ago, same name anyway and mentioned he used this forum when I spoke to him. Was that skint he negotiated me down by a tenner and I couldn't say no !

[McD]

I get they’re a business, but the way Cardiff have handled this and continue to handle it leaves a lot to be desired

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Willie Mackay is an absolute pube.

[Bridge hibs]

Still cant believe they never found the pilots body but found Salas body in the wreckage, even if Ibbotsons body was thrown from the wreckage you would think it would have washed up somewhere

[HH81]

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Still cant believe they never found the pilots body but found Salas body in the wreckage, even if Ibbotsons body was thrown from the wreckage you would think it would have washed up somewhere

Yes defo one thing I thought was very odd.

[Bridge hibs]

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Yes defo one thing I thought was very odd.

I really feel for his family, Salahs family got him home to give him a funeral, Ibbotsons family live everyday with the hope they may get something, but thats looking extremely unlikely as time goes by 😞

[Callum_62]

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Yes defo one thing I thought was very odd.

Likley it's was eaten to be honest

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[cabbageandribs1875]

transfer embargo starts for Cardiff as they haven't paid the first instalment of £5.1m+ interest for Sala
Cardiff City hit with transfer embargo ahead of January window but are locked in talks to resolve issue - Wales Online

from the beeb "We haven't paid and at the moment have no intention of paying," Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman told BBC Radio Wales Sport.

[Lendo]

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transfer embargo starts for Cardiff as they haven't paid the first instalment of £5.1m+ interest for Sala
Cardiff City hit with transfer embargo ahead of January window but are locked in talks to resolve issue - Wales Online

from the beeb "We haven't paid and at the moment have no intention of paying," Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman told BBC Radio Wales Sport.

Embarrassing from Cardiff.