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    Willie McKay and Emiliano Salah

    An excellent article here by Daniel Taylor. Hibs fans with memories will recall Willie McKay and the kind of person he is.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...ames-hard-face


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    Sala u mean 😀

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    Agents! 😤😡

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    All very tasteless to be squabbling about money at this moment in time. A young man has tragically lost his life and hasn't even been laid to rest yet. Just shows how much greed can take over some people. That McKay sounds like an absolute slime ball of a character. He certainly stirred a lot of **** up with hibs when the OF were sniffing around Brown and Thompson in 2007, not interested a jot in what was best for their young careers but just out to milk as much cash out of them for himself as he could.

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    “The reliably noxious McKay.”

    Sums it up about right.

    As I said on another thread, Nantes don’t seem to be in the wrong here. Football is business and the deal was done. They are due £15m.

    It is folk like McKay and Cardiff who have questions to answer about leaking details to the media. What does that achieve other than prolonging the grief for people who knew Sala?

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    Awkward and this should all be done in private IMO.

    A business transaction has taken place.
    A plane has crashed and 2 people have died.
    The business transaction is unaffected IMO.

    Insurance will cover it all - the agents will also have some insurance to cover their financial feeding frenzy.

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    The transfer fee has been the elephant in the room since the plane disappeared and it was just a question of time before the grubby issue of moneys due broke free.

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    Where’s the pilot? Thinking more and more something dodgy has went on there

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Where’s the pilot? Thinking more and more something dodgy has went on there
    Like what? Then why are they crowdfunding to recover his body?

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    When it comes to agents football is very much reaping the whirlwind. For over a century it utterly took the piss out of the players, paying them peanuts compared to the income through crowds and latterly TV and sponsorship they generated.

    It was totally understandable that when some savvy folk realised there was money to be made by representing the players and putting a stop to them being utterly exploited by clubs the charlatans and spivs would take the situation and turn it into a greed fest.

    Once again football's own greed will prevent it taking the action it should. If they were serious about stopping these leeches sucking the game dry they would bring in a cap on transfer fees and insist that the player's cut pays out to his agent and that the percentage the agent gets from that cut is also capped. But the truth is clubs are so busy cutting each others throats to sign the best players they will continue to let the tail wag the dog.

    It may bee unseemly to see Nantes asking for their money so quickly ….. but the truth is they were due it on the day it was scheduled to be paid and Cardiff's apparent search for a loophole or other avenue which will prevent them from having to pay it is far more reprehensible if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgo View Post
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    Like what? Then why are they crowdfunding to recover his body?
    Pretty heartless that they never recovered the body of the pilot the same time they got the players body.

    Will the plane ever be recovered ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Pretty heartless that they never recovered the body of the pilot the same time they got the players body.

    Will the plane ever be recovered ?
    I think they would have recovered it if it had been there to be recovered.

    The pilot may have ejected, the plane may have broken up but there's no way they would leave the pilot's body in there if there was a chance of recovering it.

    I don't think the plane will be recovered, pretty sure I heard that it would be too difficult but they still hope to be able to get enough info to work out the cause of the crash.



    The thing I didn't like about the whole business was how quickly they called off the official search and how soon the crowdfunded search actually managed to find the wreckage. Relatives were close to having to spend their whole lives wondering what happened to the plane. A little bit of crowdfunding and at least some of them will have answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Pretty heartless that they never recovered the body of the pilot the same time they got the players body.

    Will the plane ever be recovered ?
    The pilot’s body wasn’t there to be recovered, only one body in the wreckage.

    In terms of possible recovery, the plane isn’t that deep to make it too difficult, just need the right vessel with appropriate lifting equipment on site according to the guy that lead the successful search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Stone View Post
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    Insurance will cover it all - the agents will also have some insurance to cover their financial feeding frenzy.
    Apparently, Cardiff's insurance is limited to £16m. Not enough to cover transfer fee, the agreed salary, agents fees etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby View Post
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    The pilot’s body wasn’t there to be recovered, only one body in the wreckage.

    In terms of possible recovery, the plane isn’t that deep to make it too difficult, just need the right vessel with appropriate lifting equipment on site according to the guy that lead the successful search.
    Who would be liable to cover the costs of lifting the plane. Also what would they achieve in doing this. Don't think planes that size have a black box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorgiegreens View Post
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    Who would be liable to cover the costs of lifting the plane. Also what would they achieve in doing this. Don't think planes that size have a black box.
    Would the pilot not have had insurance? I possibly missed that part of the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Pretty heartless that they never recovered the body of the pilot the same time they got the players body.

    Will the plane ever be recovered ?
    I thought the plane had already been recovered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAXXA View Post
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    I thought the plane had already been recovered?
    Found- but its still on the sea floor

    Im assuming the pilot was ejected on impact - i haven’t seen any pics on the front of the plane so in assuming it was broken up

    The pilots body, unfortunately may never be recovered


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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Found- but its still on the sea floor

    Im assuming the pilot was ejected on impact - i haven’t seen any pics on the front of the plane so in assuming it was broken up

    The pilots body, unfortunately may never be recovered


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    There IS a crowdfunding page to find a second search to look for the pilots body. Killian Mbappe donated £27k which is a nice touch.

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    Willie McKay and Emiliano Salah

    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    There IS a crowdfunding page to find a second search to look for the pilots body. Killian Mbappe donated £27k which is a nice touch.
    Yeah i know that - doesn’t mean they will find him though

    Im hoping he washes up somewhere/is found and is not “lost to the sea”

    Must be even worse for the family in that situation

    Good on all the people who have donated too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Yeah i know that - doesn’t mean they will find him though

    Im hoping he washes up somewhere/is found and is not “lost to the sea”

    Must be even worse for the family in that situation

    Good on for all the people who have donated too


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    I see Willie Mackays twin sons both play for Cardiff (or more correctly are currently loaned out elsewhere).

    Was reading an article about how he hooked Salah - told him that he had already told the press that West Ham were interested in order to boost the fee. Told him that he wasnt there to be a father figure, that all he wanted was to increase the size of the deal to boost Salahs income and his fee.

    Apparently there are 5 agents involved, on behalf of the player, Nantes, Cardiff. And his previous club (bordeaux?) are due 50% of the Cardiff fee as part of a sell on clause.

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    It's also made me reevaluate my views on the whole Kevin Thomson ****show in 2006/7. Judging by what has emerged about what dodginess McKay is capable of, it's fairly obvious that he is well capable of totally manipulating a young footballer like KT. The 'walking along the M8 on broken glass' thing and the Daily Record columns fit a pattern, that as KT has since said he wasn't able to control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    An excellent article here by Daniel Taylor. Hibs fans with memories will recall Willie McKay and the kind of person he is.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...ames-hard-face
    This could get very messy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    I think they would have recovered it if it had been there to be recovered.

    The pilot may have ejected, the plane may have broken up but there's no way they would leave the pilot's body in there if there was a chance of recovering it.

    I don't think the plane will be recovered, pretty sure I heard that it would be too difficult but they still hope to be able to get enough info to work out the cause of the crash.



    The thing I didn't like about the whole business was how quickly they called off the official search and how soon the crowdfunded search actually managed to find the wreckage. Relatives were close to having to spend their whole lives wondering what happened to the plane. A little bit of crowdfunding and at least some of them will have answers.
    Is that part about the official search right? I'm sure the private search and official search worked together and split the search area between them.

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    Indeed. McKay wants his money. He could see difficulties ahead. Why wouldn't he? After all he is an utter sccumbag. I hope he receives absolutely nothing. I recall his son telling Sala that the flight to Cardiff wouldn't cost him anything. That flight would have cost at least £2500 alone. Tells you everything you need to know about Willie McKays football agency. Utter cockroaches.

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    No doubt McKays company isn't UK registered either... No doubt be an offshore company, off the register. Greed, greed, greed.

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    No doubt McKays company isn't UK registered either... No doubt be an offshore company, off the register. Greed, greed, greed.
    He lives in Monaco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    It's also made me reevaluate my views on the whole Kevin Thomson ****show in 2006/7. Judging by what has emerged about what dodginess McKay is capable of, it's fairly obvious that he is well capable of totally manipulating a young footballer like KT. The 'walking along the M8 on broken glass' thing and the Daily Record columns fit a pattern, that as KT has since said he wasn't able to control.

    True, although unless is more to the story than has been revealed so far, KT chose to dump his old agent and willingly signed a contract with McKay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullsCloseHibs View Post
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    Indeed. McKay wants his money. He could see difficulties ahead. Why wouldn't he? After all he is an utter sccumbag. I hope he receives absolutely nothing. I recall his son telling Sala that the flight to Cardiff wouldn't cost him anything. That flight would have cost at least £2500 alone. Tells you everything you need to know about Willie McKays football agency. Utter cockroaches.

    The emails between Sala & McKay's son were horrible. Sala was then texting everyone saying he was flying by private jet to Cardiff. Instead he ends up in a tiny single engined prop plane flown by a part time pilot with no commercial licence. Poor young man, he must have been consumed with doubts but got on that plane.

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