SPFL salaries

[Ozyhibby]

Average salaries across the league.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/footb...mpression=true




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[calumhibee1]

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Average salaries across the league.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/footb...mpression=true




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Not sure how accurate that is but we’re paying £2k a week on average. Probably means our highest is about £3k?

[Col2]

Not really surprising given respective current turnovers. FOH contribution doesn’t really show the advantage Hearts have but this may be masked by the ridiculous spend on a one tier stand.

So we are a 5th placed team based on this but should be competing for 3rd and 4th.

[Diclonius]

Done a wee bit with this and translated it into a league table of pounds of average player salary for one point in the league table:

1. Livingston: £1,836 per point
2. St Johnstone: £2,026 per point
3. Kilmarnock: £2,513 per point
4. Motherwell: £3,382 per point
5. Hearts: £4,292 per point
6. Hamilton: £4,788 per point
7. Hibs: £5,441 per point
8. St Mirren: £5,771 per point
9. Aberdeen: £6,603 per point
10. Dundee: £12,577 per point
11. Rangers: £17,280 per point
12. Celtic: £29,849 per point

[J-C]

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Not sure how accurate that is but we’re paying £2k a week on average. Probably means our highest is about £3k?

It'll be all over the playing staff, youngsters will be nearer £300-400, Porteous, Shaw etc around £1k, I'd expect the higher ones about £3-4k

[calumhibee1]

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Not really surprising given respective current turnovers. FOH contribution doesn’t really show the advantage Hearts have but this may be masked by the ridiculous spend on a one tier stand.

So we are a 5th placed team based on this but should be competing for 3rd and 4th.

The difference between us and Hearts isn’t huge. We should definitely be competing for top 4. You could argue that they should get there ahead of us but not by much if we’re basing it on wages as it’s a small difference so yes, we should still be competing for it.

We should also be lightyears ahead of the other 7 teams in the league based on that logic. It’s not how it works though.

[JimboHibs]

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Done a wee bit with this and translated it into a league table of pounds of average player salary for one point in the league table:

1. Livingston: £1,836 per point
2. St Johnstone: £2,026 per point
3. Kilmarnock: £2,513 per point
4. Motherwell: £3,382 per point
5. Hearts: £4,292 per point
6. Hamilton: £4,788 per point
7. Hibs: £5,441 per point
8. St Mirren: £5,771 per point
9. Aberdeen: £6,603 per point
10. Dundee: £12,577 per point
11. Rangers: £17,280 per point
12. Celtic: £29,849 per point

Why do that ?

[CropleyWasGod]

My usual caveat about this.

The survey is based on so many assumptions about information not in the public domain that it's pretty well meaningless.

[calumhibee1]

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Why do that ?

I found it quite interesting to be fair. Shows you who’s getting best value for their money really?

[Keith_M]

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Why do that ?

Return for your money?

[Ozyhibby]

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The difference between us and Hearts isn’t huge. We should definitely be competing for top 4. You could argue that they should get there ahead of us but not by much if we’re basing it on wages as it’s a small difference so yes, we should still be competing for it.

We should also be lightyears ahead of the other 7 teams in the league based on that logic. It’s not how it works though.

Yip. It’s very rare for Hibs since Petrie has been here to perform in line with our budget. I think we have only managed it about three times in the 20 odd years he has been here.


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[JimboHibs]

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I found it quite interesting to be fair. Shows you who’s getting best value for their money really?

So our players are overpaid.

[Biggie]

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So our players are overpaid.

Given the standard of the league is brutal, I'd say yeah they are overpaid. £100-£150k a year ?!? For a hibs player.

[calumhibee1]

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Given the standard of the league is brutal, I'd say yeah they are overpaid. £100-£150k a year ?!? For a hibs player.

Much worse players down south earning a hell of a lot more. Likewise last season we had guys like SJM, SA and DMc who were worth more than we’d have been giving them.

[Michael]

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Given the standard of the league is brutal, I'd say yeah they are overpaid. £100-£150k a year ?!? For a hibs player.

Well, they're mostly not overpaid, because if it wasn't us paying them that amount then someone else would be.

[where'stheslope]

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Much worse players down south earning a hell of a lot more. Likewise last season we had guys like SJM, SA and DMc who were worth more than we’d have been giving them.

This is why the English clubs come up here for players, they can afford to double a players wage and if it doesn't work out it just pennies lost to them!
If the transfer fee goes to tribunal, our low wages goes against us, which means the get the player on the cheap!!!!

[neil7908]

The first table in the article below gives an idea how to far we are behind other world leagues. Would have been nice to have some data on the lower leagues in England and Scotland to compare.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...g-intelligence

[brog]

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It'll be all over the playing staff, youngsters will be nearer £300-400, Porteous, Shaw etc around £1k, I'd expect the higher ones about £3-4k

It says in article that its 1st team squad only, which would of course currently include Oli & Ryan. As CWG says however there's so many assumptions that data is pretty much useless
FWIW I believe some of our wages are now considerably higher than the perceived wisdom on here.

[Earlydelivery]

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Given the standard of the league is brutal, I'd say yeah they are overpaid. £100-£150k a year ?!? For a hibs player.

Was at a do last yr and overhead a present Hibs player say he was on £1900 PW

[J-C]

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It says in article that its 1st team squad only, which would of course currently include Oli & Ryan. As CWG says however there's so many assumptions that data is pretty much useless
FWIW I believe some of our wages are now considerably higher than the perceived wisdom on here.

I agree, wages are also made up with bonuses like appearance, goals,clean sheets and win bonuses.

[Ozyhibby]

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This is why the English clubs come up here for players, they can afford to double a players wage and if it doesn't work out it just pennies lost to them!
If the transfer fee goes to tribunal, our low wages goes against us, which means the get the player on the cheap!!!!

Tribunal?


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[Sammy7nil]

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Why do that ?

Strange question - why not do it.

[cocteautwin]

From the last published accounts, Hibs had 61 Players and management, Hearts have 116 Players and coaching staff. Aberdeen had equivalent of 67. Killie had 61. Anyone notice any anomaly in these 4 numbers?

[Juniper Greens]

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From the last published accounts, Hibs had 61 Players and management, Hearts have 116 Players and coaching staff. Aberdeen had equivalent of 67. Killie had 61. Anyone notice any anomaly in these 4 numbers?

I'm sure they pay their catering staff directly?

[cocteautwin]

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I'm sure they pay their catering staff directly?

Those numbers I quoted are playing and coaching staff only.

[calumhibee1]

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From the last published accounts, Hibs had 61 Players and management, Hearts have 116 Players and coaching staff. Aberdeen had equivalent of 67. Killie had 61. Anyone notice any anomaly in these 4 numbers?

There’s no way Hearts have a higher average annual salary and not far off double the players. That would mean they were paying nearly double us per year on wages and significantly more than Aberdeen aswell.

[cocteautwin]

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There’s no way Hearts have a higher average annual salary and not far off double the players. That would mean they were paying nearly double us per year on wages and significantly more than Aberdeen aswell.

The numbers in the survey must be some sort of guess as there's no disclosure in club's accounts of a breakdown of first team salaries. The numbers on players are accurate though - they come from audited accounts. It's just weird that we have 61 players and coaching staff compared to HMFC 116.

[CropleyWasGod]

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The numbers in the survey must be some sort of guess as there's no disclosure in club's accounts of a breakdown of first team salaries. The numbers on players are accurate though - they come from audited accounts. It's just weird that we have 61 players and coaching staff compared to HMFC 116.

The notes on the survey tell you the basis on which they are prepared. And remember that the survey is for this season; it's not historic.

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[Since90+2]

We can't be comparing like for like with Hearts in terms of the number of players and coaches. There's no way they have that many more. Are they possibly including younger age groups in the figures?